Re: [Orgmode] Abbrevs and Org Tables
On Apr 20, 2008, at 4:09 PM, Jose Robins wrote: On a related note, I have some emphasis formatting/cell width problems within tables. I have some custom emphasis alist along with hiding the emphasis markers defined so... '(org-emphasis-alist (quote ((* bold b /b) (/ italic i /i) (_ underline u /u) (= org-code code / code verbatim) (~ org-verbatim verbatim) (+ (:strike- through t) del /del) ( font-lock-keyword-face ) (# j-green-face ) (^ j-highlight-face '(org-hide-emphasis-markers t) where j-green-face or essentially the default face with the color green etc. When I do an emphasis inside a table, the emphasis special characters would disappear and the correct formatting would appear on the word, however the right cell vertical divider character would get pulled in by 1 character. tab does not resize the table cell properly. I need to manually insert a space to move the divider to the right and then everything would work as expected. Just a minor annoyance.. Not sure if I explained the issue correctly... Hi Jose, does C-c C-c fix the alignment, or not? - Carsten Jose Chris Randle wrote: Hi I define an Emacs abbrev of, say, hnbc to exapand to how now brown cow, and then type hnbc[space] inside an org table cell. After it has expanded it pushes the trailing cell divider away, even though the cell width was adequate. Tabbing out of the cell doesn't re-fit the cell divider - it stays stuck where it was after the expansion. It's slightly odd, because if I type lots of leading spaces before the abbrev and then tab, org happily moves the expanded text back to the beginning of the cell, but still doesn't move the trailing divider. C-c C-c fixes it, and also moving the cursor over to the trailing cell divider and backspace one char and tab. Any other workarounds or suggestions? ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Abbrevs and Org Tables
Carsten Dominik wrote: On Apr 20, 2008, at 4:09 PM, Jose Robins wrote: On a related note, I have some emphasis formatting/cell width problems within tables. I have some custom emphasis alist along with hiding the emphasis markers defined so... '(org-emphasis-alist (quote ((* bold b /b) (/ italic i /i) (_ underline u /u) (= org-code code /code verbatim) (~ org-verbatim verbatim) (+ (:strike-through t) del /del) ( font-lock-keyword-face ) (# j-green-face ) (^ j-highlight-face '(org-hide-emphasis-markers t) where j-green-face or essentially the default face with the color green etc. When I do an emphasis inside a table, the emphasis special characters would disappear and the correct formatting would appear on the word, however the right cell vertical divider character would get pulled in by 1 character. tab does not resize the table cell properly. I need to manually insert a space to move the divider to the right and then everything would work as expected. Just a minor annoyance.. Not sure if I explained the issue correctly... Hi Jose, does C-c C-c fix the alignment, or not? - Carsten Hi Carsten, Actually, C-c C-c does work while tab does not work reliably. I was just trying out different emphasis markers. Bold was what was giving me problem today (* regexp) - TAB didn't work while C-c C-c worked. My customized ones seemed to work fine today. However I do distinctly remember them not working properly earlier. Let me know if C-c C-c is the recommended method for reformatting tables... I've also found my custom emphasis markers not working reliably on headlines. Sometimes, they will revert back to not being emphasized depending on the following headline's contents. Not sure if using emphasis markers on headlines is discouraged or not. If you like, I can document this better and send you more details on the type of actions that cause the formatting to break. I've always been known to indulge in corner cases and using things on the bleeding edge, so things like this always happen to me :) Thanks, Jose Jose Chris Randle wrote: Hi I define an Emacs abbrev of, say, hnbc to exapand to how now brown cow, and then type hnbc[space] inside an org table cell. After it has expanded it pushes the trailing cell divider away, even though the cell width was adequate. Tabbing out of the cell doesn't re-fit the cell divider - it stays stuck where it was after the expansion. It's slightly odd, because if I type lots of leading spaces before the abbrev and then tab, org happily moves the expanded text back to the beginning of the cell, but still doesn't move the trailing divider. C-c C-c fixes it, and also moving the cursor over to the trailing cell divider and backspace one char and tab. Any other workarounds or suggestions? ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Abbrevs and Org Tables
On Apr 20, 2008, at 11:44 AM, Chris Randle wrote: Hi I define an Emacs abbrev of, say, hnbc to exapand to how now brown cow, and then type hnbc[space] inside an org table cell. After it has expanded it pushes the trailing cell divider away, even though the cell width was adequate. Tabbing out of the cell doesn't re-fit the cell divider - it stays stuck where it was after the expansion. It's slightly odd, because if I type lots of leading spaces before the abbrev and then tab, org happily moves the expanded text back to the beginning of the cell, but still doesn't move the trailing divider. C-c C-c fixes it, and also moving the cursor over to the trailing cell divider and backspace one char and tab. Any other workarounds or suggestions? Hi Chris, Jose, maybe it is useful to explain a bit how the table editor works. Each time you press a character, Org checks if you are doing this inside a table. If yes, Org is checking if it can insert the character into the current field., it it fits in there. If yes it does so. If not, it raises a flag that the next TAB should trigger a re-alignment of the table. Org goes through all this to avoid having the re-align the table always, each time you press TAB, because for large tables this can lead to a significant slowdown. Now, the two things mentioned in this thread, abbrev expansion and hiding of emphasis markers, happen outside the control of normal editing. Both happen by some hook, and the corresponding change in field width is not noticed by Org. It is not easy to fix this without endangering the mechanism that suppresses constant table alignment. It seems to me that these two cases are rare enough that it is not too much to ask to quickly fix things with C-c C-c. I this really bothers you, take a look at the variable `org-enable- table-editor'. The default for this variable is `optimized', which leads to the discussed behavior. If you set it to t, each TAB will re- align the table. HTH - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Abbrevs and Org Tables
Hi I define an Emacs abbrev of, say, hnbc to exapand to how now brown cow, and then type hnbc[space] inside an org table cell. After it has expanded it pushes the trailing cell divider away, even though the cell width was adequate. Tabbing out of the cell doesn't re-fit the cell divider - it stays stuck where it was after the expansion. It's slightly odd, because if I type lots of leading spaces before the abbrev and then tab, org happily moves the expanded text back to the beginning of the cell, but still doesn't move the trailing divider. C-c C-c fixes it, and also moving the cursor over to the trailing cell divider and backspace one char and tab. Any other workarounds or suggestions? -- Chris Randle ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Abbrevs and Org Tables
On a related note, I have some emphasis formatting/cell width problems within tables. I have some custom emphasis alist along with hiding the emphasis markers defined so... '(org-emphasis-alist (quote ((* bold b /b) (/ italic i /i) (_ underline u /u) (= org-code code /code verbatim) (~ org-verbatim verbatim) (+ (:strike-through t) del /del) ( font-lock-keyword-face ) (# j-green-face ) (^ j-highlight-face '(org-hide-emphasis-markers t) where j-green-face or essentially the default face with the color green etc. When I do an emphasis inside a table, the emphasis special characters would disappear and the correct formatting would appear on the word, however the right cell vertical divider character would get pulled in by 1 character. tab does not resize the table cell properly. I need to manually insert a space to move the divider to the right and then everything would work as expected. Just a minor annoyance.. Not sure if I explained the issue correctly... Jose Chris Randle wrote: Hi I define an Emacs abbrev of, say, hnbc to exapand to how now brown cow, and then type hnbc[space] inside an org table cell. After it has expanded it pushes the trailing cell divider away, even though the cell width was adequate. Tabbing out of the cell doesn't re-fit the cell divider - it stays stuck where it was after the expansion. It's slightly odd, because if I type lots of leading spaces before the abbrev and then tab, org happily moves the expanded text back to the beginning of the cell, but still doesn't move the trailing divider. C-c C-c fixes it, and also moving the cursor over to the trailing cell divider and backspace one char and tab. Any other workarounds or suggestions? ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
