Re: [Orgmode] Beamer support in Org-mode

2010-01-03 Thread Carsten Dominik
Hi everyone, after contemplating the \pnote proposal for beamer notes, I don't think that this is, in the end, the right solution. Can't we just use headings with a TODO keyword BNOTE or with property BNOTE or so as the sources of notes? Or, even simpler, Or we could use a special value

Re: [Orgmode] Beamer support in Org-mode

2010-01-03 Thread Russell Adams
Carsten, I've seen properties and sub-headlines proposed, but what about something like this, using quoting style to separate the notes from the slide? ** Slide - Slide content - Slide content #+BEGIN_BEAMER_NOTE Here are the class notes for this slide... #+END_BEAMER_NOTE Maybe I'm coming

Re: [Orgmode] Beamer support in Org-mode

2009-12-21 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Aloha Carsten, I've had a chance to look at your first draft of beamer support. You've done a terrific job. So much of the draft is right that it helps to focus thoughts on the parts that are candidates for discussion and possible change. Along those lines, I don't think using

Re: [Orgmode] Beamer support in Org-mode

2009-12-21 Thread Carsten Dominik
Hi Thomas, On Dec 21, 2009, at 4:50 PM, Thomas S. Dye wrote: Aloha Carsten, I've had a chance to look at your first draft of beamer support. You've done a terrific job. So much of the draft is right that it helps to focus thoughts on the parts that are candidates for discussion and

Re: [Orgmode] Beamer support in Org-mode

2009-12-21 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Hi Carsten, On Dec 21, 2009, at 12:28 PM, Carsten Dominik wrote: ... I've had a chance to look at your first draft of beamer support. You've done a terrific job. So much of the draft is right that it helps to focus thoughts on the parts that are candidates for discussion and possible

Re: [Orgmode] Beamer support in Org-mode

2009-12-20 Thread Darlan Cavalcante Moreira
I also liked this idea. Since beamer does not track where the \note command is used inside the frame and just puts every note from that frame in the next notes slide, then there is no loss if org-mode put several \note commands in the end of the frame environment when exporting. Therefore, a

Re: [Orgmode] Beamer support in Org-mode

2009-12-19 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Hi Daniel, On Dec 18, 2009, at 11:01 AM, Daniel Martins wrote: \pnote could be an option Another idea is to reserve the lowest level to notes * section ** subsection *** frame etc ** notes (I don't know how many *'s are needed) maybe we can set a number / variable like

Re: [Orgmode] Beamer support in Org-mode

2009-12-18 Thread Adam Spiers
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 04:49:23PM -0300, Darlan Cavalcante Moreira wrote: In addition, while I also agree that footnotes shouldn't be in a presentation they are allowed when working with beamer and may be useful in some cases. If org-mode export footnotes as beamer notes then some months from

Re: [Orgmode] Beamer support in Org-mode

2009-12-18 Thread Nick Dokos
Adam Spiers orgm...@adamspiers.org wrote: On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 04:49:23PM -0300, Darlan Cavalcante Moreira wrote: In addition, while I also agree that footnotes shouldn't be in a presentation they are allowed when working with beamer and may be useful in some cases. If org-mode

Re: [Orgmode] Beamer support in Org-mode

2009-12-18 Thread Daniel Martins
\pnote could be an option Another idea is to reserve the lowest level to notes * section ** subsection *** frame etc ** notes (I don't know how many *'s are needed) maybe we can set a number / variable like org-beamer-frame-level we could create org-beamer-notes-level Daniel

Re: [Orgmode] Beamer support in Org-mode

2009-12-15 Thread Eric S Fraga
At Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:09:33 +0100, Carsten Dominik wrote: [...] One option would be to turn all those notes into footnotes for other export. Carsten, I wonder if simply turning this on its head wouldn't be a good solution? By this I mean to use org-mode footnotes to represent beamer

Re: [Orgmode] Beamer support in Org-mode

2009-12-15 Thread Daniel Martins
Good idea Eric (footnotes - \notes) The only minor problem is number of lines per footnote/note. When I make notes on Bemaer in general my notes have more than one line. AFAIK footnotes in org are single lines or you have to separate them with \par which is not so good. Daniel 2009/12/15 Eric

Re: [Orgmode] Beamer support in Org-mode

2009-12-15 Thread Darlan Cavalcante Moreira
I also thought about suggesting this approach, but the problem is that footnotes and beamer notes are really two different things. Beamer notes can be anything such as tables, figures, several lines of text (with itemize), display equations, etc.. At least for me, these examples of beamer notes

Re: [Orgmode] Beamer support in Org-mode

2009-12-11 Thread Carsten Dominik
Hi everyone, the current state of affairs in beamer support is now in the master branch of the git repo. My little draft documentation is now at http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-beamer.php But it is really limited and I am hoping very much that someone will turn this into

Re: [Orgmode] Beamer support in Org-mode

2009-12-10 Thread Carsten Dominik
On Nov 26, 2009, at 7:29 PM, Darlan Cavalcante Moreira wrote: I usually make my presentations in beamer as below. , | \begin{frame} | \frametitle{This is the frametitle} | \begin{itemize} | \item Some information | \begin{itemize} | \item Some information in a subitem |

Re: [Orgmode] Beamer support in Org-mode

2009-12-10 Thread Darlan Cavalcante Moreira
At Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:09:33 +0100, Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com wrote: On Nov 26, 2009, at 7:29 PM, Darlan Cavalcante Moreira wrote: I usually make my presentations in beamer as below. , | \begin{frame} | \frametitle{This is the frametitle} |

Re: [Orgmode] Beamer support in Org-mode

2009-12-10 Thread Nick Dokos
Darlan Cavalcante Moreira darc...@gmail.com wrote: At Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:09:33 +0100, Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com wrote: On Nov 26, 2009, at 7:29 PM, Darlan Cavalcante Moreira wrote: I usually make my presentations in beamer as below. , |

Re: [Orgmode] Beamer support in Org-mode

2009-12-10 Thread Mark Elston
I have been following this discussion with some interest as it may provide the basis for something I am interested in doing as well. I hope my discussion doesn't muddy the waters too much... Nick Dokos wrote: Darlan Cavalcante Moreira darc...@gmail.com wrote: At Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:09:33

Re: [Orgmode] Beamer support in Org-mode

2009-12-10 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Hi Mark, On Dec 10, 2009, at 10:49 AM, Mark Elston wrote: I have been following this discussion with some interest as it may provide the basis for something I am interested in doing as well. I hope my discussion doesn't muddy the waters too much... Nick Dokos wrote: Darlan Cavalcante Moreira

Re: [Orgmode] Beamer support in Org-mode

2009-12-10 Thread Scot Becker
For what it's worth, my preparation style would follow Mark's. Chart the flow of what I want to say in org, ideally using whatever hierarchy I need to do it, then export the outline and essential detail for beamer-and/or-handouts. I'd keep the teaching notes to myself (and keep them part of the

Re: [Orgmode] Beamer support in Org-mode

2009-12-10 Thread Mark Elston
Thomas S. Dye wrote: Hi Mark, On Dec 10, 2009, at 10:49 AM, Mark Elston wrote: I have been following this discussion with some interest as it may provide the basis for something I am interested in doing as well. I hope my discussion doesn't muddy the waters too much... Nick Dokos wrote:

Re: [Orgmode] Beamer support in Org-mode

2009-12-10 Thread Nick Dokos
Mark Elston m_els...@comcast.net wrote: Thomas S. Dye wrote: On Dec 10, 2009, at 10:49 AM, Mark Elston wrote: ... My case is similar. I teach a class each week and, so far, have created two documents; a set of handouts and my notes for teaching. Generally these documents start

Re: [Orgmode] Beamer support in Org-mode

2009-12-10 Thread Mark Elston
Nick Dokos wrote: IIUC, another way to go (possibly much simpler than org-babel[1]) is to use selective export: #+EXPORT_SELECT_TAGS: Tags that select a tree for export #+EXPORT_EXCLUDE_TAGS: Tags that exclude a tree from export Mark the handout and notes sections with different

Re: [Orgmode] Beamer support in Org-mode

2009-11-30 Thread Gray Calhoun
An optional setting sounds great. I can't wait to see how it turns out. --Gray Carsten Dominik wrote: Hi Gray, thanks for chiming in, this was a very important piece of the puzzle. I had already realized that I should give up having fixed levels for columns, but I had still panned fixed

Re: [Orgmode] Beamer support in Org-mode

2009-11-29 Thread Gray Calhoun
Hi Carsten and all, Beamer export sounds fantastic. I've been using org mode for this sort of thing a lot over the last year--all of my lecture notes are typed up as an org file, and I used org mode to draft slides for a presentation over the summer, so an automated process would be helpful.

Re: [Orgmode] Beamer support in Org-mode

2009-11-29 Thread Carsten Dominik
Hi Gray, thanks for chiming in, this was a very important piece of the puzzle. I had already realized that I should give up having fixed levels for columns, but I had still panned fixed levels for frames. Now after your post I realize that this can be useful, but is not required, which

Re: [Orgmode] Beamer support in Org-mode

2009-11-27 Thread Eric S Fraga
At Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:49:49 -0500, Dan Davison wrote: [...] I'm trying to test out Carsten's example, but I have a question that probably just reveals that I haven't understood the discussion: what exactly are we supposed to use for the beamer entry in org-export-latex-classes? Are we

Re: [Orgmode] Beamer support in Org-mode

2009-11-27 Thread Eric S Fraga
At Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:57:29 +0100, Carsten Dominik wrote: [...] Nothing of this is yet working with the current org.-mode. I am building special support for this, basically the ability to provide a function that does the class support, instead of the list you normally have to provide in

Re: [Orgmode] Beamer support in Org-mode

2009-11-27 Thread Stephan Schmitt
Carsten Dominik wrote: On Nov 26, 2009, at 7:40 PM, Dan wrote: ... using the heading title to set the column width feels wrong; the natural reaction is to think that that sort of metadata should be in a property. OK, I hear you all pull the same string, that Org-mode files should be

[Orgmode] Beamer support in Org-mode

2009-11-26 Thread Carsten Dominik
Hi, this is in response to the discussions about beamer export from Org-mode. Yesterday I had a long train ride during which I scanned the beamer documentation (smoking hot stuff!). Then I made the attached draft for Org-mode support, strongly based on the stuff Eric Fraga has put together

Re: [Orgmode] Beamer support in Org-mode

2009-11-26 Thread Friedrich Delgado Friedrichs
Hiho! Sounds very reasonable! Carsten Dominik schrieb: this is in response to the discussions about beamer export from Org-mode. Yesterday I had a long train ride during which I scanned the beamer documentation (smoking hot stuff!). Then I made the attached draft for Org-mode support,

Re: [Orgmode] Beamer support in Org-mode

2009-11-26 Thread Nick Dokos
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com wrote: this is in response to the discussions about beamer export from Org-mode. Yesterday I had a long train ride during which I scanned the beamer documentation (smoking hot stuff!). Indeed - Till Tantau has a gift for documentation (among other

Re: [Orgmode] Beamer support in Org-mode

2009-11-26 Thread Carsten Dominik
On Nov 26, 2009, at 5:30 PM, Nick Dokos wrote: Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com wrote: this is in response to the discussions about beamer export from Org-mode. Yesterday I had a long train ride during which I scanned the beamer documentation (smoking hot stuff!). Indeed - Till

Re: [Orgmode] Beamer support in Org-mode

2009-11-26 Thread Dan Davison
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: Hi, this is in response to the discussions about beamer export from Org-mode. Yesterday I had a long train ride during which I scanned the beamer documentation (smoking hot stuff!). Then I made the attached draft for Org-mode support,

Re: [Orgmode] Beamer support in Org-mode

2009-11-26 Thread Carsten Dominik
On Nov 26, 2009, at 5:49 PM, Dan Davison wrote: Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: Hi, this is in response to the discussions about beamer export from Org-mode. Yesterday I had a long train ride during which I scanned the beamer documentation (smoking hot stuff!). Then I

Re: [Orgmode] Beamer support in Org-mode

2009-11-26 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Hi Carsten, On Nov 26, 2009, at 1:17 AM, Carsten Dominik wrote: Hi, this is in response to the discussions about beamer export from Org-mode. Yesterday I had a long train ride during which I scanned the beamer documentation (smoking hot stuff!). Then I made the attached draft for Org-mode

Re: [Orgmode] Beamer support in Org-mode

2009-11-26 Thread Eric S Fraga
At Thu, 26 Nov 2009 12:17:21 +0100, Carsten Dominik wrote: Hi, this is in response to the discussions about beamer export from Org-mode. Yesterday I had a long train ride during which I scanned the beamer documentation (smoking hot stuff!). Then I made the attached draft for Org-mode

Re: [Orgmode] Beamer support in Org-mode

2009-11-26 Thread Darlan Cavalcante Moreira
I usually make my presentations in beamer as below. , | \begin{frame} | \frametitle{This is the frametitle} | \begin{itemize} | \item Some information | \begin{itemize} | \item Some information in a subitem | \end{itemize} | \item more information | \item more

Re: [Orgmode] Beamer support in Org-mode

2009-11-26 Thread Dan Davison
... On Nov 26, 2009, at 1:17 AM, Carsten Dominik wrote: ... NOW is the time to chime in. I don't know if this is helpful from someone who hasn't thought through the details of beamer support but just in case: is there any chance that we should be thinking at this stage of a generic

Re: [Orgmode] Beamer support in Org-mode

2009-11-26 Thread Carsten Dominik
On Nov 26, 2009, at 7:40 PM, Dan wrote: ... On Nov 26, 2009, at 1:17 AM, Carsten Dominik wrote: ... NOW is the time to chime in. I don't know if this is helpful from someone who hasn't thought through the details of beamer support but just in case: is there any chance that we