Re: [Orgmode] Changing star character
On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 11:02:23 -1000 "Thomas S. Dye" wrote: > Aloha Javier, > > On Feb 26, 2011, at 10:54 AM, Javier M Mora wrote: > > > On 26/02/11 16:36, Bastien wrote: > >> Hi Javier, > >> > >> Javier M Mora writes: > >> > >>> If I can change star symbol from "*" char to "%" char (comment > >>> mark in > >>> LaTeX). It become possible. > >>> Hi Javier, Do you really need org mode for what you want to do? Simple outline mode is a good "idea processor" and you can change the '*' to '%'. Outline mode can run as a minor mode under auctex. Cheers, Alan > > > > ___ > > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > > > ___ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > -- Alan L Tyreehttp://www2.austlii.edu.au/~alan Tel: 04 2748 6206 ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Changing star character
Aloha Javier, On Feb 26, 2011, at 10:54 AM, Javier M Mora wrote: On 26/02/11 16:36, Bastien wrote: Hi Javier, Javier M Mora writes: If I can change star symbol from "*" char to "%" char (comment mark in LaTeX). It become possible. Is it possible? No. Is there a variable to change star symbol? Is "*" so hardcoded that it is impossible change behavior? Yes. Besides, I don't really get what you are trying to achieve, an example would be better - but this example won't make it easier to change what you suggest ;) I like org-mode, and I like Auctex mode and both are major modes so it's not possible use both simultaneous. You can use both. You can edit LaTeX source code blocks in Org-mode using the AucTeX major mode, then tangle the LaTeX code. All the best, Tom I'd like to write scientific text in LaTeX using org-mode way: % Section: Importance of This \section{Importance of This} %% What is it "This" To talk about \emph{this} is important look to several factors: %%% "This" depends on "That" \emph{That} is very important in \emph{this} and bla, bla, bla... %%% This depends on "These" Also, \emph{These} is another. bla bla bla... %%% This is not "another". And don't forget another has anything. SubIdea blablabla % is the comment in LaTeX and is the outline of my ideas. And the text associated to every headline is the text of the article. With org-mode, I can sort ideas (and lines of text associated) moving subtrees. org-mode relate ideas with text. % char is LaTeX comment so LaTeX ignores until the end of line. The problem is org-mode only works with star '*' character to mark headlines and LaTeX would print lots of star in the text. org-mode LaTeX export is not enough good for this idea, because every headline in org-mode becomes a headline in LaTeX and as you can see in my example this is not always the better. The export org-mode to LaTeX of this example is: \section{Section: Importance of This} \section{Importance of This} \subsection{What is it "This"} To talk about \emph{this} is important look to several factors: \subsubsection{"This" depends on "That"} \emph{That} is very important in \emph{this} and bla, bla, bla... \subsubsection{This depends on "These"} Also, \emph{These} is another. bla bla bla... \subsubsection{This is not "another".} And don't forget another has anything. \paragraph{SubIdea} blablabla When the desired objetive is put everything in a paragraph: \section{Importance of This} To talk about \emph{this} is important look to several factors: \emph{That} is very important in \emph{this} and bla, bla, bla... Also, \emph{These} is another. bla bla bla... And don't forget another has anything. blablabla etc. Before and after of send email to org-mode mail list, I read source code and I thought star character was hard coded in it. (IMHO star char must be a configuration var). But I wanted to hear the opinion of experts from the maillist before doing anything. So, I created two elisp functions to make a translation.: (defun org2latex () "Convert star to comments in LaTeX" (interactive) (save-excursion (goto-char (point-min)) (while (search-forward-regexp "^\*+" nil t) ; (while (search-backward "*" (beginning-of-line) t) ; (replace-match "%" nil t)) (let ((finalsearch (point))) (move-beginning-of-line nil) (while (search-forward "*" finalsearch t) (replace-match "%" nil t)) ) ) ) (latex-mode) ) (defun latex2org () "Convert comments in LaTeX to stars in org-mode" (interactive) (save-excursion (goto-char (point-min)) (while (search-forward-regexp "^%+" nil t) ; (while (search-backward "%" (beginning-of-line) t) ; (replace-match "*" nil t)) (let ((finalsearch (point))) (move-beginning-of-line nil) (while (search-forward "%" finalsearch t) (replace-match "*" nil t)) ) ) ) ;doesn't work. I want open/see the currently (sub)tree (let ((position (point))) (org-mode) (goto-char position) ) ) I'm a newbie with elisp. This works but: 1.- I don't spend to much time with search-backward, and didn't work for me. So, I had to make a detour with search-forward. 2.- From Latex2org when I start org-mode, All trees are closed. I'd like keep open the tree in the cursor. That all. I hope these functions can help someone or inspire to solve a similar problem. To make programs? Again, I'm not in maillist. Please send me a copy to my email. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Changing star character
On 26/02/11 16:36, Bastien wrote: Hi Javier, Javier M Mora writes: If I can change star symbol from "*" char to "%" char (comment mark in LaTeX). It become possible. Is it possible? No. Is there a variable to change star symbol? Is "*" so hardcoded that it is impossible change behavior? Yes. Besides, I don't really get what you are trying to achieve, an example would be better - but this example won't make it easier to change what you suggest ;) I like org-mode, and I like Auctex mode and both are major modes so it's not possible use both simultaneous. I'd like to write scientific text in LaTeX using org-mode way: % Section: Importance of This \section{Importance of This} %% What is it "This" To talk about \emph{this} is important look to several factors: %%% "This" depends on "That" \emph{That} is very important in \emph{this} and bla, bla, bla... %%% This depends on "These" Also, \emph{These} is another. bla bla bla... %%% This is not "another". And don't forget another has anything. SubIdea blablabla % is the comment in LaTeX and is the outline of my ideas. And the text associated to every headline is the text of the article. With org-mode, I can sort ideas (and lines of text associated) moving subtrees. org-mode relate ideas with text. % char is LaTeX comment so LaTeX ignores until the end of line. The problem is org-mode only works with star '*' character to mark headlines and LaTeX would print lots of star in the text. org-mode LaTeX export is not enough good for this idea, because every headline in org-mode becomes a headline in LaTeX and as you can see in my example this is not always the better. The export org-mode to LaTeX of this example is: \section{Section: Importance of This} \section{Importance of This} \subsection{What is it "This"} To talk about \emph{this} is important look to several factors: \subsubsection{"This" depends on "That"} \emph{That} is very important in \emph{this} and bla, bla, bla... \subsubsection{This depends on "These"} Also, \emph{These} is another. bla bla bla... \subsubsection{This is not "another".} And don't forget another has anything. \paragraph{SubIdea} blablabla When the desired objetive is put everything in a paragraph: \section{Importance of This} To talk about \emph{this} is important look to several factors: \emph{That} is very important in \emph{this} and bla, bla, bla... Also, \emph{These} is another. bla bla bla... And don't forget another has anything. blablabla etc. Before and after of send email to org-mode mail list, I read source code and I thought star character was hard coded in it. (IMHO star char must be a configuration var). But I wanted to hear the opinion of experts from the maillist before doing anything. So, I created two elisp functions to make a translation.: (defun org2latex () "Convert star to comments in LaTeX" (interactive) (save-excursion (goto-char (point-min)) (while (search-forward-regexp "^\*+" nil t) ; (while (search-backward "*" (beginning-of-line) t) ; (replace-match "%" nil t)) (let ((finalsearch (point))) (move-beginning-of-line nil) (while (search-forward "*" finalsearch t) (replace-match "%" nil t)) ) ) ) (latex-mode) ) (defun latex2org () "Convert comments in LaTeX to stars in org-mode" (interactive) (save-excursion (goto-char (point-min)) (while (search-forward-regexp "^%+" nil t) ; (while (search-backward "%" (beginning-of-line) t) ; (replace-match "*" nil t)) (let ((finalsearch (point))) (move-beginning-of-line nil) (while (search-forward "%" finalsearch t) (replace-match "*" nil t)) ) ) ) ;doesn't work. I want open/see the currently (sub)tree (let ((position (point))) (org-mode) (goto-char position) ) ) I'm a newbie with elisp. This works but: 1.- I don't spend to much time with search-backward, and didn't work for me. So, I had to make a detour with search-forward. 2.- From Latex2org when I start org-mode, All trees are closed. I'd like keep open the tree in the cursor. That all. I hope these functions can help someone or inspire to solve a similar problem. To make programs? Again, I'm not in maillist. Please send me a copy to my email. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Changing star character
Hi Javier, Javier M Mora writes: > If I can change star symbol from "*" char to "%" char (comment mark in > LaTeX). It become possible. > > Is it possible? No. > Is there a variable to change star symbol? > Is "*" so hardcoded that it is impossible change behavior? Yes. Besides, I don't really get what you are trying to achieve, an example would be better - but this example won't make it easier to change what you suggest ;) Best, -- Bastien ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Changing star character
Hi, I want to use org-mode as an ideas-processor to write articles/thesis with LaTeX. I've tried export from org to LaTeX but I don't like results: Every org headline become in a latex headline. I want more granularity using org to classify my ideas inside a paragraph. My idea is be able to use the same file as a valid org file and a valid LaTeX file and select in which major mode I want to work (org or Auctex) depending on my needs. If I can change star symbol from "*" char to "%" char (comment mark in LaTeX). It become possible. Is it possible? Is there a variable to change star symbol? Is "*" so hardcoded that it is impossible change behavior? Thanks, Javier M Mora. I'm not member of org-mode list. Please, send me a copy to my personal email. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode