Re: [Orgmode] Colors for pre elem. on orgmode.org
2009/11/17 Eric S Fraga : > At Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:17:43 +0100, > Sebastian Rose wrote: > > [...] > >> M-x customize-variable RET org-export-htmlize-output-type RET >> >> >> Set it to `CSS' > > > > Sigh. When will I ever learn. If I think something should be > possible in org-mode, it's already there! > But at least by asking you educate us all :-) > Thanks for the pointer and it works perfectly (of course)! > > eric R. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Colors for pre elem. on orgmode.org
At Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:17:43 +0100, Sebastian Rose wrote: [...] > M-x customize-variable RET org-export-htmlize-output-type RET > > > Set it to `CSS' Sigh. When will I ever learn. If I think something should be possible in org-mode, it's already there! Thanks for the pointer and it works perfectly (of course)! eric ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Colors for pre elem. on orgmode.org
Eric S Fraga writes:
> At Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:33:25 +,
> Rick Moynihan wrote:
>> For what it's worth I find the lack of contrast here a problem too.
>> Though I can read the text, it's not especially pleasant. I've also
>> found something similar in my exports (with a non default colour
>> theme), which has led me to use the following STYLE option for source
>> code blocks etc...
>>
>> #+STYLE: pre { background-color: #191919 } pre { color:
>> #FF }
>
> I have a similar problem. The following org-mode snippet:
>
>
> #+begin_src sh
> echo < This is some input
> EOF
> #+end_src
>
> generates, upon HTML export, the following code:
>
>
> echo
> < This is some input
> EOF
>
>
> The problem with this is that I find the yellow (00 colour)
> illegible on almost every monitor I use. However, there is no class
> nor id that I can adjust a style for the relevant span elements. Even
> if I define some CSS for the src or src-sh classes, these will be
> overridden in the spans. The HTML styles for the spans are hard-coded
> in, it would appear. Or maybe there is something I can configure
> somewhere?
>
> I will have a look at the export code later when I get a chance...
M-x customize-variable RET org-export-htmlize-output-type RET
Set it to `CSS'
Sebastian
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Re: [Orgmode] Colors for pre elem. on orgmode.org
At Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:33:25 +,
Rick Moynihan wrote:
> For what it's worth I find the lack of contrast here a problem too.
> Though I can read the text, it's not especially pleasant. I've also
> found something similar in my exports (with a non default colour
> theme), which has led me to use the following STYLE option for source
> code blocks etc...
>
> #+STYLE: pre { background-color: #191919 } pre { color:
> #FF }
I have a similar problem. The following org-mode snippet:
--8<---cut here---start->8---
#+begin_src sh
echo <8---
generates, upon HTML export, the following code:
--8<---cut here---start->8---
echo
<8---
The problem with this is that I find the yellow (00 colour)
illegible on almost every monitor I use. However, there is no class
nor id that I can adjust a style for the relevant span elements. Even
if I define some CSS for the src or src-sh classes, these will be
overridden in the spans. The HTML styles for the spans are hard-coded
in, it would appear. Or maybe there is something I can configure
somewhere?
I will have a look at the export code later when I get a chance...
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Re: [Orgmode] Colors for pre elem. on orgmode.org
2009/11/16 Sebastian Rose :
> Greg Newman writes:
>> On my calibrated monitor that's fine for readability
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 8:15 AM, Sebastian Rose wrote:
>
>
> My monitor is not calibrated, but I see all the 1's on
> http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/572427/display/3843090 so the
> contrast is good enough.
>
> I just installed lprof and tried to improve the calibration of my
> monitor (which I never had problems with, BTW). But I couldn't enter the
> monitor values for "Weißpunkt" (`white point' ???) and "Grundfarben"
> (`basic colors' ??), because I did not know what to enter there. "Set
> Gamma and Black Point" seems not to work correct (according to photos I
> see on the net like the one mentioned above). When I load a photo for
> Scanner calibration, the image is distorted - so I don't really know why
> to trust that program => uninstalled it again.
>
> There are other programs for calibration, but I don't have colorimeter
> at hand. And I don't know anyone who owns such a thing.
>
> I don't know many people, who use calibrated monitors by the way. Just a
> few people doing graphics - and even they don't own a colorimeter.
>
>
> It is a tiny little bit better with bigger fonts (in Opera I see heavier
> font - in FF the Courier font is very light - might be a bug), or.
>
> I think we should make it readable for everyone, right? And we should
> make as close to the optimum as possible.
>
> Here is what I see on flickr:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/44727...@n04/4109090241/in/set-72157622816907722/
For what it's worth I find the lack of contrast here a problem too.
Though I can read the text, it's not especially pleasant. I've also
found something similar in my exports (with a non default colour
theme), which has led me to use the following STYLE option for source
code blocks etc...
#+STYLE: pre { background-color: #191919 } pre { color:
#FF }
Having a darker background colour for source code and example blocks
seems like the sensible thing to do.
R.
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Re: [Orgmode] Colors for pre elem. on orgmode.org
Greg Newman writes:
> On my calibrated monitor that's fine for readability
>
> On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 8:15 AM, Sebastian Rose wrote:
My monitor is not calibrated, but I see all the 1's on
http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/572427/display/3843090 so the
contrast is good enough.
I just installed lprof and tried to improve the calibration of my
monitor (which I never had problems with, BTW). But I couldn't enter the
monitor values for "Weißpunkt" (`white point' ???) and "Grundfarben"
(`basic colors' ??), because I did not know what to enter there. "Set
Gamma and Black Point" seems not to work correct (according to photos I
see on the net like the one mentioned above). When I load a photo for
Scanner calibration, the image is distorted - so I don't really know why
to trust that program => uninstalled it again.
There are other programs for calibration, but I don't have colorimeter
at hand. And I don't know anyone who owns such a thing.
I don't know many people, who use calibrated monitors by the way. Just a
few people doing graphics - and even they don't own a colorimeter.
It is a tiny little bit better with bigger fonts (in Opera I see heavier
font - in FF the Courier font is very light - might be a bug), or.
I think we should make it readable for everyone, right? And we should
make as close to the optimum as possible.
Here is what I see on flickr:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/44727...@n04/4109090241/in/set-72157622816907722/
I see this lack of contrast on different hardware, too:
- Lenovo 500 + Ubuntu 9.04/Windows Vista Business,
- IYAMA 4 years old attached to a P4 with Debian and NVIDIA driver
>
>> Carsten Dominik writes:
>> > Hi Sebastian,
>> >
>> > can you point to a page where you think the stuff is badly readable?
>> >
>> > - Carsten
>>
>> Yes - sorry.
>>
>>
>> http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/org-protocol.php#open-source-rewritten-urls
>>
>>
>>
>> Sebsatian
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > On Nov 15, 2009, at 8:08 PM, Sebastian Rose wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> the colors on orgmode.org are made from an Emacs setup with a dark
>> >> background.
>> >>
>> >> Because of the light background on the Web, code examples with syntax
>> >> highlighting are hard to read. I even avoid #+BEGIN_SRC and use
>> >> #+BEGIN_EXAMPLE instead.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I played a little locally, and found, that the following simple change
>> >> makes highlighted source code readable. Just put this in an exported
>> >> HTML file, just before the `' tag and keep the original styles in
>> >> place, to see the results:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> pre {
>> >>background-color:#33;
>> >>color:white;
>> >> }
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> These are just the changed values.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Unfortunately, this changes the appearance significantly. Dark
>> >> background for all code.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> As an alternative, we could change all foreground colors, in that we
>> >> keep the tint, but reduce the brightness of each. That way we would keep
>> >> the appearance and have readable code. I've changed the background to be
>> >> slightly lighter. Just put this in an exported HTML file, just before
>> >> the `' tag and keep the original styles in place, to see the
>> >> results:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>