[Orgmode] Difference between org-footnote.el and footnote.el (was: A few questions about how you write e-mails)
suvayu ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com writes: Hi! Hm, I don't use org-mode and its functions when writing mails using Gnus, but I enable footnote-mode in message-mode and then call `Footnote-add-footnote' and friends directly. That adds footnotes before the signature just as you want. test [1], test [2], ... This is exactly what I was looking for, I wasn't aware of footnode-mode. Thanks a lot!! :) Oh, I was pretty sure that org-footnote.el is only a wrapper around the original footnote.el that comes with emacs, but looking at the code it seems to be a completely separate facility. It says to have better support for resuming editing than footnote.el but be less configurable. Can someone enlighten my what is meant with that better support for resuming editing? I mean, footnote.el already provides automatic renumbering which is the only special feature I can imagine to be of great use when resuming to edit a footnoted document... Bye, Tassilo ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Difference between org-footnote.el and footnote.el
[ ... ] Oh, I was pretty sure that org-footnote.el is only a wrapper around the original footnote.el that comes with emacs, but looking at the code it seems to be a completely separate facility. It says to have better support for resuming editing than footnote.el but be less configurable. Can someone enlighten my what is meant with that better support for resuming editing? I mean, footnote.el already provides automatic renumbering which is the only special feature I can imagine to be of great use when resuming to edit a footnoted document... Bye, Tassilo Hi Tassilo, common footnote.el was never able to detect if a file opened has already footnote inside. Didn't check that for some month now... Also org-footnote implemented labeled footnotes, very useful to avoid clashes with forms like list[1] BTW suggest to replace the common footnote by the org's footnotes, remove the prefix then, leave some aliases in org-mode for backward-compatibility. cc to emacs-devel for this. Cheers Andreas -- https://code.launchpad.net/~a-roehler/python-mode/python-mode-components https://code.launchpad.net/s-x-emacs-werkstatt/ ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Difference between org-footnote.el and footnote.el
Andreas Röhler andreas.roeh...@easy-emacs.de writes: Hi Andreas, Oh, I was pretty sure that org-footnote.el is only a wrapper around the original footnote.el that comes with emacs, but looking at the code it seems to be a completely separate facility. It says to have better support for resuming editing than footnote.el but be less configurable. Can someone enlighten my what is meant with that better support for resuming editing? I mean, footnote.el already provides automatic renumbering which is the only special feature I can imagine to be of great use when resuming to edit a footnoted document... common footnote.el was never able to detect if a file opened has already footnote inside. Didn't check that for some month now... Yes, I've just tried that. Create a file with footnotes, save it, kill the buffer, find it again, add another footnote, and it starts numbering from [1] again. Looks like a bug to me. I'll report it... Also org-footnote implemented labeled footnotes, very useful to avoid clashes with forms like list[1] BTW suggest to replace the common footnote by the org's footnotes, remove the prefix then, leave some aliases in org-mode for backward-compatibility. Well, I don't have a strong opinion on that. But currently org-footnote.el is not very good when writing mails, because it places footnotes at the end of a buffer. If there's a signature, then footnotes are in that and likely to be removed by people replying to your mail. Bye, Tassilo ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Difference between org-footnote.el and footnote.el
Tassilo Horn tass...@member.fsf.org writes: common footnote.el was never able to detect if a file opened has already footnote inside. Didn't check that for some month now... Yes, I've just tried that. Create a file with footnotes, save it, kill the buffer, find it again, add another footnote, and it starts numbering from [1] again. Looks like a bug to me. I'll report it... Done as bug#7258. Bye, Tassilo ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Difference between org-footnote.el and footnote.el
Tassilo Horn tass...@member.fsf.org wrote: BTW suggest to replace the common footnote by the org's footnotes, remove the prefix then, leave some aliases in org-mode for backward-compatibility. Well, I don't have a strong opinion on that. But currently org-footnote.el is not very good when writing mails, because it places footnotes at the end of a buffer. If there's a signature, then footnotes are in that and likely to be removed by people replying to your mail. How does footnote.el find the signature? I assumed before that signatures are free-form and therefore unfindable algorithmically, but that seems to be a mistake on my part. If that's the case, the mechanism can be grafted into org-footnote.el, perhaps with an expanded meaning of org-footnote-placement: in addition to nil or a string, it can be a symbol, say 'before-signature, and that can be set in an appropriate mail composition hook. Nick ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Difference between org-footnote.el and footnote.el
Nick Dokos nicholas.do...@hp.com writes: How does footnote.el find the signature? I presume by looking for the line -- which precedes the signature. Charles -- I'd crawl over an acre of 'Visual This++' and 'Integrated Development That' to get to gcc, Emacs, and gdb. Thank you. (By Vance Petree, Virginia Power) pgpcVsqDYgBgS.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
