Re: [Orgmode] How to combine the analogue (Moleskine) world with digital (org-mode) world ?
Torsten Wagner writes:
> My question is now. What would be the best way to combine the
> moleskine and org-mode ? Does someone have experience with a paper
> based and digital mixture system?
I used to use similar clunky mixed org and paper systems, but this
thread just inspired me to write the following function which solves the
problem for me. The function will allow me to non-interactively add a
message to the "Inbox" section of my Org file.
(defun phone-remember (file note)
(interactive)
(find-file (concat "~/repo/org/" file ".org"))
(goto-line 5)
(org-show-entry)
(insert (concat "** TODO " note "\n")))
I put the following procmail rule in place to trigger that function from
my cell phone:
:0
* ^from.*1234567...@vtext.com
* ^Subject: Todo \/.*
| emacsclient.emacs-snapshot -e "(phone-remember \"todo\" \"${MATCH}\")"
So I just email myself a note from my phone staring with "Todo" and it
gets added to my todo list.
I just tested it out, and it works really well!
I run emacs in daemon mode, but the same could be done with just the
emacs command. It might fit into others' systems better if org-remember
is somehow called non-interactively. That way, your org-remember
templates would be available. Please let me know if someone figures out
how to do this.
Regards,
Jason
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Re: [Orgmode] How to combine the analogue (Moleskine) world with digital (org-mode) world ?
I use a small notebook with small pen as shown in http://www.upgradeinfoshop.com.br/admin/produtos/8186.jpg or http://www.livrariagraf.com.br/ecommerce_produtos_ver_foto.php?id=989 BTW I have to thank Eric for his (always excellent) post!!! Daniel 2010/1/25 Eric S Fraga > At Sun, 24 Jan 2010 23:09:27 +0900, > Torsten Wagner wrote: > > However, not all my work is just in front of a computer. And the world > > [...] > > > My question is now. What would be the best way to combine the > > moleskine and org-mode ? Does someone have experience with a paper > > [...] > > > Any ideas and experience would be welcome. > > In the "olden days" (as my son says), I used to run a mixed system > (well beore org-mode days, mind you). The best working scenario for > me was the following: > > - every Sunday, I would go through my paper diary, a Filofax (tm), and > transfer any new/changed items to my electronic version. > - I would then print off the next month's calendar in "week per two > pages" form compatible my Filofax. > - during the week, I would tend to work only on paper if I wasn't at > my desk but, even at the desk, I would update both paper and > computer simultaneously with new/changed entries. Any such entries > would be "ticked" on the paper so that I knew that I had already > incorporated them into the computer version. > > Eventually, I gave up and bought a Psion 3 (the original incarnation, > then a 3a and finally a 3mx) which I carried with me all the time! My > 3mx died early this century and I have been struggling ever since. > The Psion was absolutely fantastic, an example of engineering (both > hardware and software) at its best! > > I now have org-mode which is fantastic in terms of the software end > (and in many ways is reminiscent of the Psion) but the hardware end is > lagging [1]. I now use a combination of systems: desktop PCs at work > and home, netbook (Asus EEE) on the move with a Nokia internet tablet > (N810) for those times when the netbook is too inconvenient > (e.g. impromptu lunchtime meetings). Everything is synchronised using > git. > > This all works well enough but I still would like a single pocketable > computer that I could use in all scenarios. The Nokia's keyboard and > screen are just a little too small, especially the keyboard. I am > hopeful that a more usable system will come out this year as many > mobile internet devices [MID] and ultra-mobile PCs (UMPC) were > announced last year. The UMID &co. look promising. Maybe the > Pandora! Possibly one of the Android phones but probably not. > > I won't get an iPhone as I don't like the proprietary nature of the > software [2]. I want Linux or equivalent with org-mode! > > HTH, > eric > > > Footnotes: > [1] and this is *not* Carsten's fault ;-) > > [2] yes, the Psion ran proprietary software as well but, partly > because of being orphaned by them, I no longer am willing to end > up beholden to a single company's system! > > > > ___ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] How to combine the analogue (Moleskine) world with digital (org-mode) world ?
I have been using a combined Paper/org-mode system for awhile now. i think the main thing is to have org as your primary system, and the paper system as a collection/rumination point. whenever I have an incoming action item, and I am nowhere near my computer, I add it to an on-going todo list inside of my note-book. Every morning I have a repeating task that is to take everything my notebook, and put it inside of the relevant place in org-mode. Once that is done, I check off that item in my todo list in my notebook. It's not that it is DONE per-sae, but it has been captured. I also have a notebook tag, so that if I need to, I can print out an agenda for stuffing into my notebook. This is mostly for shopping lists, or things I need to spend some time thinking about. Any action items that come out of that would get added to my todo list in my notebook, and then back into the system. Hope that helps! __ Jonathan Arkell Tech Lead Inspired By Drum & Bass, Scheme, Kawaii p. 403.206.4377 402 -- 11th Ave SE Calgary, AB, Canada T2G 0Y4 jonath...@criticalmass.com criticalmass.com On Jan 24, 2010, at 7:09 AM, Torsten Wagner wrote: > Dear all, > > I really tried hard over the last year to use org-mode as much as > possible. It was already mentioned that, due to the incredible > org-mode features, this becomes fast more a religious rather then a > working task. Thus, my work flow changed more and more to a org-mode > flow. And now they even start this babel thing ;) > > I'm very very happy with this. > > However, not all my work is just in front of a computer. And the world > is until know still analogue with sometimes even more analogue > colleagues ;). Often I get some appointments or something I like to > write down "on the way", at the bus, during the coffee-break, etc. I > can make some notes on a piece of scratch papers and try to add them > later to my org-mode system. But you know... no paper... no pen... > lost the scratch paper... no time to transfer it to the PC etc. For > many reasons this does not work well for me. > I tried to a portable version of emacs+org-mode on my PDA. This works > well, since it is a clamshell keyboard based PDA (Sharp Zaurus). For > me this is still a bit ineffective compared to a paper and pen > solution since it would require to sync home- , work-place and the PDA > constantly (e.g., by using git). However, my PDA is not on-line most > of the time, due to the lack of wireless access points. And murphys > law always make sure it run out of juice whenever I need it really > badly... > > Thus, today I bought one of these moleskine paper organizers (no > advertisement, all other organizers would be nice as well). I hope to > have it always with me and to use it in all this cases where I do not > have access to org-mode ( I'm still waiting that someone comes up with > a org-mode-brain interface). > > My question is now. What would be the best way to combine the > moleskine and org-mode ? Does someone have experience with a paper > based and digital mixture system? One of my ideas was to print out the > weekly or monthly agenda as small as possible and just attach it to > the molenskine (it has a little card holder at the back). This would > allow me to check what is in my org-mode agenda. However, I would > still have two independent systems. > > What I'am looking for is a smart way to keep both in sync and that > without big hassle. It has to be something which does the job quite > quick thus I will do it directly e.g., every morning before starting > work... instead of pushing and pushing it away from me. Thought maybe > I simply mark the entries in the paper version whether I added them to > org-mode already or not and create a tag in org-mode for the vice > versa reason. > > Any ideas and experience would be welcome. > > Best Greetings > > Torsten > > > ___ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode The information contained in this message is confidential. It is intended to be read only by the individual or entity named above or their designee. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any distribution of this message, in any form, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete or destroy any copy of this message. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] How to combine the analogue (Moleskine) world with digital (org-mode) world ?
At Sun, 24 Jan 2010 23:09:27 +0900, Torsten Wagner wrote: > However, not all my work is just in front of a computer. And the world [...] > My question is now. What would be the best way to combine the > moleskine and org-mode ? Does someone have experience with a paper [...] > Any ideas and experience would be welcome. In the "olden days" (as my son says), I used to run a mixed system (well beore org-mode days, mind you). The best working scenario for me was the following: - every Sunday, I would go through my paper diary, a Filofax (tm), and transfer any new/changed items to my electronic version. - I would then print off the next month's calendar in "week per two pages" form compatible my Filofax. - during the week, I would tend to work only on paper if I wasn't at my desk but, even at the desk, I would update both paper and computer simultaneously with new/changed entries. Any such entries would be "ticked" on the paper so that I knew that I had already incorporated them into the computer version. Eventually, I gave up and bought a Psion 3 (the original incarnation, then a 3a and finally a 3mx) which I carried with me all the time! My 3mx died early this century and I have been struggling ever since. The Psion was absolutely fantastic, an example of engineering (both hardware and software) at its best! I now have org-mode which is fantastic in terms of the software end (and in many ways is reminiscent of the Psion) but the hardware end is lagging [1]. I now use a combination of systems: desktop PCs at work and home, netbook (Asus EEE) on the move with a Nokia internet tablet (N810) for those times when the netbook is too inconvenient (e.g. impromptu lunchtime meetings). Everything is synchronised using git. This all works well enough but I still would like a single pocketable computer that I could use in all scenarios. The Nokia's keyboard and screen are just a little too small, especially the keyboard. I am hopeful that a more usable system will come out this year as many mobile internet devices [MID] and ultra-mobile PCs (UMPC) were announced last year. The UMID &co. look promising. Maybe the Pandora! Possibly one of the Android phones but probably not. I won't get an iPhone as I don't like the proprietary nature of the software [2]. I want Linux or equivalent with org-mode! HTH, eric Footnotes: [1] and this is *not* Carsten's fault ;-) [2] yes, the Psion ran proprietary software as well but, partly because of being orphaned by them, I no longer am willing to end up beholden to a single company's system! ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] How to combine the analogue (Moleskine) world with digital (org-mode) world ?
Hi Ray, > I am a "heavy note taker" and also running org-mode and paper. Paper has > advantages mostly when thinking slowly and may be more reflective. Computer > has its advantages when it comes to organizing stuff. Unfortunately, I'm not this heavy note taker guy... I always thought ... ahh I can remember it later... However, either I'm aging or things becomes more complex... whatever, I get more and more problems to keep things in my mind. The problem is that both methods have so many advantages. Ideally I would like to see a tiny slim e-ink based organizer with keyboard purley optimized to run org-mode and a battery life time of at least 2 weeks. Something like this... http://www.kingjim.co.jp/pomera/index.html (it has no e-ink and does run an unkown OS) > A last note on what I was to find out: Don't try to be too sharp - a little > chaos left is kind of a little salt for the soup ... :-) Yeah I notice to make the last 5% of yourself and your sourounding acting organized in your prefered way cost 95% of the time you like to spend on organisation... thus, it is a waste of time... Thanks for sharing your opinion. Totti ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] How to combine the analogue (Moleskine) world with digital (org-mode) world ?
Hi, I am a "heavy note taker" and also running org-mode and paper. Paper has advantages mostly when thinking slowly and may be more reflective. Computer has its advantages when it comes to organizing stuff. What works for me is running a leporella calendar for appointments - for this thing can come along with me no matter where I go. Notes I do take where ever I am with whatsover is available. And I have set aside a repetitive appointment with myself to go through all the notes and to find out what to do with what. Remaining are the todo-lists. They come wonderfuly out of orgmode - and all I was to find out was how to plan ahead my next week. How do I do that? Easy. I go through all the notes I've taken and decide, what to do with it. A last note on what I was to find out: Don't try to be too sharp - a little chaos left is kind of a little salt for the soup ... :-) Good luck :-) ray ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] How to combine the analogue (Moleskine) world with digital (org-mode) world ?
I've been using my moleskine in conjunction with org-mode for a long time but not really structured in any way. I typically only use the moleskine as an inbox and phone journal. If I find that my notes belong in my agenda then they get entered in my org files. As far as going from org to my moleskine I don't bother with that approach mainly because (1) it would be redundant for me to and (2) I rely on the clocks in org-mode as I work. On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Manish wrote: > On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 7:39 PM, Torsten Wagner wrote: > [...] > > Thus, today I bought one of these moleskine paper organizers > > (no advertisement, all other organizers would be nice as > > well). I hope to have it always with me and to use it in all > > this cases where I do not have access to org-mode ( I'm still > > waiting that someone comes up with a org-mode-brain interface). > > > > My question is now. What would be the best way to combine the > > moleskine and org-mode ? Does someone have experience with a > > paper based and digital mixture system? One of my ideas was to > > print out the weekly or monthly agenda as small as possible and > > just attach it to the molenskine (it has a little card holder > > at the back). This would allow me to check what is in my > > org-mode agenda. However, I would still have two independent > > systems. > > > > What I'am looking for is a smart way to keep both in sync and > > that without big hassle. It has to be something which does the > > job quite quick thus I will do it directly e.g., every morning > > before starting work... instead of pushing and pushing it away > > from me. Thought maybe I simply mark the entries in the paper > > version whether I added them to org-mode already or not and > > create a tag in org-mode for the vice versa reason. > > > > Any ideas and experience would be welcome. > > I am also beginning with something similar. My plan is to print the > day's agenda every morning (or previous night) and may be fold it > like pocketmod [1] using Christian Egli's org2pocketMod [2]. Then > the digital system can be updated at the end of the day. > > 1. http://www.pocketmod.com/ > 2. http://www.mail-archive.com/emacs-orgmode@gnu.org/msg04044.html > > Regards > -- > Manish > > > ___ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] How to combine the analogue (Moleskine) world with digital (org-mode) world ?
On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 7:39 PM, Torsten Wagner wrote: [...] > Thus, today I bought one of these moleskine paper organizers > (no advertisement, all other organizers would be nice as > well). I hope to have it always with me and to use it in all > this cases where I do not have access to org-mode ( I'm still > waiting that someone comes up with a org-mode-brain interface). > > My question is now. What would be the best way to combine the > moleskine and org-mode ? Does someone have experience with a > paper based and digital mixture system? One of my ideas was to > print out the weekly or monthly agenda as small as possible and > just attach it to the molenskine (it has a little card holder > at the back). This would allow me to check what is in my > org-mode agenda. However, I would still have two independent > systems. > > What I'am looking for is a smart way to keep both in sync and > that without big hassle. It has to be something which does the > job quite quick thus I will do it directly e.g., every morning > before starting work... instead of pushing and pushing it away > from me. Thought maybe I simply mark the entries in the paper > version whether I added them to org-mode already or not and > create a tag in org-mode for the vice versa reason. > > Any ideas and experience would be welcome. I am also beginning with something similar. My plan is to print the day's agenda every morning (or previous night) and may be fold it like pocketmod [1] using Christian Egli's org2pocketMod [2]. Then the digital system can be updated at the end of the day. 1. http://www.pocketmod.com/ 2. http://www.mail-archive.com/emacs-orgmode@gnu.org/msg04044.html Regards -- Manish ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] How to combine the analogue (Moleskine) world with digital (org-mode) world ?
Dear all, I really tried hard over the last year to use org-mode as much as possible. It was already mentioned that, due to the incredible org-mode features, this becomes fast more a religious rather then a working task. Thus, my work flow changed more and more to a org-mode flow. And now they even start this babel thing ;) I'm very very happy with this. However, not all my work is just in front of a computer. And the world is until know still analogue with sometimes even more analogue colleagues ;). Often I get some appointments or something I like to write down "on the way", at the bus, during the coffee-break, etc. I can make some notes on a piece of scratch papers and try to add them later to my org-mode system. But you know... no paper... no pen... lost the scratch paper... no time to transfer it to the PC etc. For many reasons this does not work well for me. I tried to a portable version of emacs+org-mode on my PDA. This works well, since it is a clamshell keyboard based PDA (Sharp Zaurus). For me this is still a bit ineffective compared to a paper and pen solution since it would require to sync home- , work-place and the PDA constantly (e.g., by using git). However, my PDA is not on-line most of the time, due to the lack of wireless access points. And murphys law always make sure it run out of juice whenever I need it really badly... Thus, today I bought one of these moleskine paper organizers (no advertisement, all other organizers would be nice as well). I hope to have it always with me and to use it in all this cases where I do not have access to org-mode ( I'm still waiting that someone comes up with a org-mode-brain interface). My question is now. What would be the best way to combine the moleskine and org-mode ? Does someone have experience with a paper based and digital mixture system? One of my ideas was to print out the weekly or monthly agenda as small as possible and just attach it to the molenskine (it has a little card holder at the back). This would allow me to check what is in my org-mode agenda. However, I would still have two independent systems. What I'am looking for is a smart way to keep both in sync and that without big hassle. It has to be something which does the job quite quick thus I will do it directly e.g., every morning before starting work... instead of pushing and pushing it away from me. Thought maybe I simply mark the entries in the paper version whether I added them to org-mode already or not and create a tag in org-mode for the vice versa reason. Any ideas and experience would be welcome. Best Greetings Torsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
