[Orgmode] Re: [org-babel] Does org-babel needs some simplification?

2010-06-30 Thread Bernt Hansen
Daniel Brunner  writes:

> I know, org-mode is a growing project and I really really like the
> org-babel features. But for me it is now not advisable any more to keep
> on the master branch. Today I spent several hours for finding the
> reasons why something is not working any more. And that is too much for
> a productive environment. 

I too run my production org-mode stuff from the master branch.  If you
pull and things break you can just step back to the commit you were at
before your pull with

$ git checkout ORIG_HEAD

All of your local commit changes should be available in the reflog so
you can go back to any recent point in time in your repository.

$ git reflog

will show a list of commits you have visited recently and you can return
to any one with a checkout of the SHA1 or by using the h...@{n} shortcut
-- just beware that h...@{n} changes everytime you move HEAD on your
repository.

Another method is to tag commits you know are good - so you can return
to them easily using whatever-name-you-like.

HTH,
Bernt

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Re: [Orgmode] Re: [org-babel] Does org-babel needs some simplification?

2010-06-30 Thread Jonathan Arkell

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Hi Daniel

I would say, that if you absolutely need a productive environment, then you 
should stick to the official releases, rather then the latest and greatest, as 
sad as that might sound.

Conversely, if things break the next time you do a git pull, you could pull 
from a previous version to see if it is still broken.

It's bleeding edge for a reason!

On Jun 30, 2010, at 1:30 PM, Daniel Brunner wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> thanks for bringing this topic up. I do not want to be misunderstood:
> org-mode is one of the greatest things developed the last years. I use
> it every day and it is a great help. I also appreciate the work of all
> those developers contributing to org-mode / babel.
>
> My setup is: I use the git repository because I like some of the new
> features und from time to time I "pull" the new things. Normalley a
> "make" does the job and flipping through the log messages helps me to
> understand the new things. I use org-mode on my main business machine;
> ok, perhaps it is a bit risky. And I try to use as much as possible
> "out-of-the-box".
>
> But then my .emacs reported problems: org-babel has changed its place
> and the way it is loaded. I found the reason for that in the news
> group. But then the nice patch by Eric Schulte for tangling "org-mode"
> files doesn't work any more because "org-babel-tangle-langs" does not
> exist any more. And David Maus' addition org-atom for generating atom
> feeds is broken because there is something with a
> org-export-inbuffer-options-extra variable (which is not a org-babel
> problem as I suppose).
>
> I know, org-mode is a growing project and I really really like the
> org-babel features. But for me it is now not advisable any more to keep
> on the master branch. Today I spent several hours for finding the
> reasons why something is not working any more. And that is too much for
> a productive environment.
>
> Today, I am a bit sad about my broken org-mode installation and I am
> going back to the 6.36c.
>
> Kind regards, Daniel.
>
>
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[Orgmode] Re: [org-babel] Does org-babel needs some simplification?

2010-06-30 Thread Daniel Brunner
Hello everyone,

thanks for bringing this topic up. I do not want to be misunderstood:
org-mode is one of the greatest things developed the last years. I use
it every day and it is a great help. I also appreciate the work of all
those developers contributing to org-mode / babel.

My setup is: I use the git repository because I like some of the new
features und from time to time I "pull" the new things. Normalley a
"make" does the job and flipping through the log messages helps me to
understand the new things. I use org-mode on my main business machine;
ok, perhaps it is a bit risky. And I try to use as much as possible
"out-of-the-box". 

But then my .emacs reported problems: org-babel has changed its place
and the way it is loaded. I found the reason for that in the news
group. But then the nice patch by Eric Schulte for tangling "org-mode"
files doesn't work any more because "org-babel-tangle-langs" does not
exist any more. And David Maus' addition org-atom for generating atom
feeds is broken because there is something with a
org-export-inbuffer-options-extra variable (which is not a org-babel
problem as I suppose).

I know, org-mode is a growing project and I really really like the
org-babel features. But for me it is now not advisable any more to keep
on the master branch. Today I spent several hours for finding the
reasons why something is not working any more. And that is too much for
a productive environment. 

Today, I am a bit sad about my broken org-mode installation and I am
going back to the 6.36c. 

Kind regards, Daniel. 


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