Re: [Orgmode] Re: OrgmodeOrgmodePOLL: Change of keys to move agenda through time

2009-08-25 Thread Dale Smith
Wes Hardaker  writes:

>> On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 08:30:51 -0700, Wes Hardaker 
>>  said:
>
>> On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:12:16 +0200, Carsten Dominik 
>>  said:
> CD> 1. Make the cursor keys LEFT and RIGHT do normal cursor motion again
>
> WH> +1.  I find these two keys have confused me more than any others 
>
> Thinking about it further, I realized a good part of the confusion
> results from the up/down keys actually doing in-buffer movement and
> left/right doing date movement.  I don't think that's "natural" for
> people.  They expect the arrows, be it up/down/left/right, to act in a
> similar fashion to each other.

Yes, I think your are right.

I also used to experience this problem a while ago.  And then I picked
up some code in this list that highlight the current agenda line:

(add-hook 'org-agenda-mode-hook '(lambda () (hl-line-mode 1)))

(I think that's the code anyway.)  And now I *never* go off in the
weeds with my Right & Left keys.

For me, I think I use the cursor to help my eyes focus on something.
Usually in the agenda the cursor is off to one side. I want to move it
to the column I'm actuallly looking at, so I "lean" on it for about
the right key-repeat time to get it there.  That would throw the
agenda several months in the future.

But that all stopped once I started using that hightlight code above.

My $.02

-Dale

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[Orgmode] Re: OrgmodeOrgmodePOLL: Change of keys to move agenda through time

2009-08-25 Thread Wes Hardaker
> On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 08:30:51 -0700, Wes Hardaker  
> said:

> On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:12:16 +0200, Carsten Dominik 
>  said:
CD> 1. Make the cursor keys LEFT and RIGHT do normal cursor motion again

WH> +1.  I find these two keys have confused me more than any others 

Thinking about it further, I realized a good part of the confusion
results from the up/down keys actually doing in-buffer movement and
left/right doing date movement.  I don't think that's "natural" for
people.  They expect the arrows, be it up/down/left/right, to act in a
similar fashion to each other.

I don't think this is the right approach either, but I mention it for
completeness: if you removed the up/down arrow bindings I bet people
would stop trying to use arrows for navigation at all, which would be
better than leaving them "half bound".  Granted, I think people still
expect arrows to always be bound to in-buffer movement anyway, so the
current default is confusing and it would be better to let the
left/right bound again to in-buffer movement.

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