Re: [Orgmode] Re: Suppressing src block evaluationon publish?

2011-02-17 Thread Andreas Leha
Hi all,

sorry to reopen this thread,  but this does not work for me (GNU Emacs
23.2.1, Org almost HEAD c7700d7bbee4f7596feb199b1ec1bc7750d4fb48)

For me the image in the attached example is always created during
(LaTeX)export.  Even if I do the manual evaluation once (and the hash is
created).

The manual re-evaluation respects the :cache yes and does not evaluate
again.

What am I missing?

- Andreas



* Test
  Some text.
  #+srcname: some_code
  #+begin_src R :session :exports code :eval never
mean <- 0
  #+end_src

  Some text.
  #+srcname: plot_code
  #+begin_src R :session :exports code :eval never
plot(x=rnorm(100, mean=mean, sd=sd),
 y=rnorm(100, mean=mean, sd=sd))
  #+end_src


* Plots
  #+LABEL:  fig:test
  #+ATTR_LaTeX: height=.29\textheight
  #+srcname: plot_1
  #+begin_src R :session :noweb yes :file test.pdf  :exports results
:results graphics :width 8 :height 4 :cache yes
sd <- 4
<>
   
<>
  #+end_src

  #+results[17681e8e450f1f4e1d8f55fa57f9be1b24dae4db]: plot_1
  [[file:test.pdf]]



Am 03.02.2011 15:34, schrieb Eric Schulte:
> Dan Davison  writes:
>
>   
>> Loris Bennett  writes:
>>
>> 
>>> Erik Iverson  writes:
>>>
>>>   
 Loris Bennett wrote:
 
> Hi,
>
> I have an org file containing several src blocks which generate images
> using ditaa. When I publish to PDF via LaTeX, the images are all
> generated every time, which makes publishing rather slow.
>
> Is there some way to toggle the evaluation of the src blocks on and off
> when the file is published?
>
>   
 You could try the :cache header argument, http://orgmode.org/org.html#cache

 
>>> Ah, thanks. There is a slight gotcha here, though.
>>>
>>> I added :cache yes to the source headers and exported again, but nothing
>>> changed; all the images were generated again. Also, no SHA1 hash was
>>> added to the +results header.
>>>
>>> After some fruitless fiddling I was about to write to the list again and
>>> moan, when I did a slightly random C-c C-c in the begin_src line and,
>>> hey presto, the hash was added to the results header. I then did this
>>> for all the images and found that the image were no longer regenerated
>>> on export, as advertised.
>>>   
>> Hi Loris,
>>
>> Yes. It does seem that it would be nice if in this situation, the first
>> export added the SHA1s, and subsequent exports recognized that
>> evaluation wasn't required. I think the reason this does not happen is
>> that behind-the-scenes Org makes a copy of the buffer for export
>> preprocessing (including src block evaluation). But Eric S is the expert
>> -- he may have more to say here.
>>
>> 
> Yes, this is exactly the case.  Org-mode is very careful that the
> process of exporting does not make any permanent changes to the original
> org-mode file.  I agree this should be mentioned in the :cache
> documentation.
>
> Best -- Eric
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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Suppressing src block evaluationon publish?

2011-02-03 Thread Eric Schulte
Dan Davison  writes:

> Loris Bennett  writes:
>
>> Erik Iverson  writes:
>>
>>> Loris Bennett wrote:
 Hi,

 I have an org file containing several src blocks which generate images
 using ditaa. When I publish to PDF via LaTeX, the images are all
 generated every time, which makes publishing rather slow.

 Is there some way to toggle the evaluation of the src blocks on and off
 when the file is published?

>>>
>>> You could try the :cache header argument, http://orgmode.org/org.html#cache
>>>
>>
>> Ah, thanks. There is a slight gotcha here, though.
>>
>> I added :cache yes to the source headers and exported again, but nothing
>> changed; all the images were generated again. Also, no SHA1 hash was
>> added to the +results header.
>>
>> After some fruitless fiddling I was about to write to the list again and
>> moan, when I did a slightly random C-c C-c in the begin_src line and,
>> hey presto, the hash was added to the results header. I then did this
>> for all the images and found that the image were no longer regenerated
>> on export, as advertised.
>
> Hi Loris,
>
> Yes. It does seem that it would be nice if in this situation, the first
> export added the SHA1s, and subsequent exports recognized that
> evaluation wasn't required. I think the reason this does not happen is
> that behind-the-scenes Org makes a copy of the buffer for export
> preprocessing (including src block evaluation). But Eric S is the expert
> -- he may have more to say here.
>

Yes, this is exactly the case.  Org-mode is very careful that the
process of exporting does not make any permanent changes to the original
org-mode file.  I agree this should be mentioned in the :cache
documentation.

Best -- Eric

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[Orgmode] Re: Suppressing src block evaluationon publish?

2011-02-03 Thread Dan Davison
Loris Bennett  writes:

> Erik Iverson  writes:
>
>> Loris Bennett wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have an org file containing several src blocks which generate images
>>> using ditaa. When I publish to PDF via LaTeX, the images are all
>>> generated every time, which makes publishing rather slow.
>>>
>>> Is there some way to toggle the evaluation of the src blocks on and off
>>> when the file is published?
>>>
>>
>> You could try the :cache header argument, http://orgmode.org/org.html#cache
>>
>
> Ah, thanks. There is a slight gotcha here, though.
>
> I added :cache yes to the source headers and exported again, but nothing
> changed; all the images were generated again. Also, no SHA1 hash was
> added to the +results header.
>
> After some fruitless fiddling I was about to write to the list again and
> moan, when I did a slightly random C-c C-c in the begin_src line and,
> hey presto, the hash was added to the results header. I then did this
> for all the images and found that the image were no longer regenerated
> on export, as advertised.

Hi Loris,

Yes. It does seem that it would be nice if in this situation, the first
export added the SHA1s, and subsequent exports recognized that
evaluation wasn't required. I think the reason this does not happen is
that behind-the-scenes Org makes a copy of the buffer for export
preprocessing (including src block evaluation). But Eric S is the expert
-- he may have more to say here.

A couple of things that might be relevant here: the variable
`org-export-babel-evaluate' can also be used to prevent evaluation on
export (but the :cache approach has advantages). And C-c C-v C-b / C-c
C-v C-s (`org-babel-evaluate-buffer' / `org-babel-execute-subtree')
could be used to update the SHA1s.

> Perhaps the documentation of :cache could be extended to mention the
> necessity of evaluating the source block before exporting.

I've added that to the TODO list.

Dan


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[Orgmode] Re: Suppressing src block evaluationon publish?

2011-02-03 Thread Loris Bennett
Erik Iverson  writes:

> Loris Bennett wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have an org file containing several src blocks which generate images
>> using ditaa. When I publish to PDF via LaTeX, the images are all
>> generated every time, which makes publishing rather slow.
>>
>> Is there some way to toggle the evaluation of the src blocks on and off
>> when the file is published?
>>
>
> You could try the :cache header argument, http://orgmode.org/org.html#cache
>

Ah, thanks. There is a slight gotcha here, though.

I added :cache yes to the source headers and exported again, but nothing
changed; all the images were generated again. Also, no SHA1 hash was
added to the +results header.

After some fruitless fiddling I was about to write to the list again and
moan, when I did a slightly random C-c C-c in the begin_src line and,
hey presto, the hash was added to the results header. I then did this
for all the images and found that the image were no longer regenerated
on export, as advertised.

Perhaps the documentation of :cache could be extended to mention the
necessity of evaluating the source block before exporting.

Loris
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Freie Universität Berlin
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[Orgmode] Re: Suppressing src block evaluationon publish?

2011-02-01 Thread Andrea Crotti
Loris Bennett  writes:

> Hi,
>
> I have an org file containing several src blocks which generate images
> using ditaa. When I publish to PDF via LaTeX, the images are all
> generated every time, which makes publishing rather slow.
>
> Is there some way to toggle the evaluation of the src blocks on and off
> when the file is published?
>
> Thanks
>
> Loris

What I do 


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[Orgmode] Re: Suppressing src block evaluationon publish?

2011-02-01 Thread Andrea Crotti
Loris Bennett  writes:

> Hi,
>
> I have an org file containing several src blocks which generate images
> using ditaa. When I publish to PDF via LaTeX, the images are all
> generated every time, which makes publishing rather slow.
>
> Is there some way to toggle the evaluation of the src blocks on and off
> when the file is published?
>
> Thanks
>
> Loris

Sorry for the other mail I pressed a C-c C-c too much.
What I do normally is to put the graphs in another file and then include
only the link in the file that I want to export.

In case I change something I can still remember to do C-c C-c on the
graph...


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