[Orgmode] Re: Update on Org-mode clone in Vim
Herbert Sitz hes...@gmail.com writes: Matt Lundin mdl at imapmail.org writes: I'm curious to see how hyperlinks and capture might work in a vim environment. Being able to call org-capture from anywhere in my Emacs ecosystem (or should I say operating system) has spoiled me. :) Matt -- Regarding the hyperlinks there's a Vim plugin that already seems to have pretty complete hyperlinking functionality. Just put it in your plugin folder and you're good to go with it. You can find it here: http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=293 I haven't done any checking to see what needs to be done to make it compatible with Org-mode hyperlinking markup. I don't think it should be too bad. The syntax does indeed seem similar at points: http://mars.iti.pk.edu.pl/doc/vim-scripts/html/plugin_utl.vim.html At least before 'conceal text' was available in Vim73 I don't think there's any good way to hide link details and have just the link text appear in the document. I haven't used Vim73 or looked at conceal text much, but it seems that feature might make it possible to closely replicate the way Emacs does things. I'd be happy to hear suggestions from people who know more about this. . . This is a very interesting development in Vim. I remember that the ability to hide text (in Org-mode and auctex) was one of the things that drew me to Emacs in the first place. I think there are some other existing Vim plugins that can be made use of. There's a footnoting plugin that I want to look into adopting at some point. Also, I have done nothing at all to implement any of Org's table editing functionality. This is pretty much independent of Org itself, and I was hoping there was an existing Vim plugin that would be somewhere along lines of what's in Org, but I haven't found anything close yet. I'd agree. I remember wishing for a self-aligning table editor in Vim (let alone a spreadsheet). Then again, it took Carsten's genius to bring that particular bit of magic to Emacs, so who knows what is possible in Vim. The Vim/Unix philosophy (which I admire just as much as I admire the all-in-one second OS philosophy behind Emacs) seems to be that such things are better handled by external programs and that scripting and integration should take place in the shell, not the editor.[1] All of which makes an Org-mode clone in Vim a particularly impressive accomplishment! Thanks again. I look forward to following your progress. Best, Matt Footnotes: [1] And why not enjoy the best of both worlds, right? ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Update on Org-mode clone in Vim
Herbert Sitz hes...@gmail.com writes: Just wanted to update anybody interested that I'm still making progress on my Vim org-mode clone. Agenda view and flexible agenda searches on dates, todos, and tags all work pretty well now. I've got basic clocking and clock table generation done, and some other things. All is available at github: https://github.com/hsitz/VimOrganizer Thanks for putting the code up. I installed the files in ~/.vim and took the code for a spin. I found the cycling and navigation to be quite fluid. There are some very nice touches. My favorites include the ability to view entries directly in the agenda and the convenient ,2, ,3, ,4, etc. to view the outline at various depths. (The latter reminded me of commands I used to use in vim outliner.) I'm curious to see how hyperlinks and capture might work in a vim environment. Being able to call org-capture from anywhere in my Emacs ecosystem (or should I say operating system) has spoiled me. :) Best, Matt ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Update on Org-mode clone in Vim
Carsten Dominik carsten.dominik at gmail.com writes: All this stuff is very similar to how Emacs Org-mode works, so the videos won't be too interesting to most of you. But I think they'll be quite helpful to people coming from Vim, some of whom have never even heard of Org- mode (if you can imagine that). :) You know what gut feeling I have when I see you write about your project? I am jealous. It must be a lot of fun to write Org mode from scratch, with a clear final feature set and detailed functionality already cleanly in your mind, and no legacy code to keep running and no detailed backward compatibility to worry about. :D I am very curious to find out if Org's philosophy and ideas will get as much traction in the vi world. It seems to me that they should. Even though there is little overlap between these worlds because an Editor choice is such a basic thing, I guess we are all the same geeks. Cheers - Carsten Carsten -- Yes, it is nice to code having a design spec that is already fleshed out and time-tested in the real world. I know there's a huge amount of time, effort, and careful decision making that's gone into the design of Org-mode. It feels good to be able to piggy- back off of it. I just wish I knew Emacs and elisp a little better so I could see how certain functions were implemented in it. Some things seem obvious; I expect I'm doing them very similarly in Vim to the way they were done in Org-mode. Other things, not so much. Regards, Herb ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Update on Org-mode clone in Vim
Matt Lundin mdl at imapmail.org writes: I'm curious to see how hyperlinks and capture might work in a vim environment. Being able to call org-capture from anywhere in my Emacs ecosystem (or should I say operating system) has spoiled me. :) Best, Matt Matt -- Regarding the hyperlinks there's a Vim plugin that already seems to have pretty complete hyperlinking functionality. Just put it in your plugin folder and you're good to go with it. You can find it here: http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=293 I haven't done any checking to see what needs to be done to make it compatible with Org-mode hyperlinking markup. I don't think it should be too bad. At least before 'conceal text' was available in Vim73 I don't think there's any good way to hide link details and have just the link text appear in the document. I haven't used Vim73 or looked at conceal text much, but it seems that feature might make it possible to closely replicate the way Emacs does things. I'd be happy to hear suggestions from people who know more about this. . . I think there are some other existing Vim plugins that can be made use of. There's a footnoting plugin that I want to look into adopting at some point. Also, I have done nothing at all to implement any of Org's table editing functionality. This is pretty much independent of Org itself, and I was hoping there was an existing Vim plugin that would be somewhere along lines of what's in Org, but I haven't found anything close yet. -- Herb ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
