[Orgmode] Re: Xiki framework (wiki and tree emacs features)

2010-02-07 Thread Glauber Alex Dias Prado
Richard Stallman r...@gnu.org writes:

 Please point me to the part of OrgMode with features for
 navigating and searching the filesystem in a tree structure.  I'm
 interested in checking i= t out and comparing it to xiki.

 The question that suggests itself to me
 is whether there is a way to separate out the various ideas,
 implemented by xiki and by Org mode, into modular features.

Just to tell my grandchildren that once i was in the same thread as rms
:), these two tools are awesome and i am using both, and would take
advantage of a more modular design for easy integration instead of each
one working in its own pet.

cheers,
glauber.


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[Orgmode] Re: Xiki framework (wiki and tree emacs features)

2010-02-07 Thread joakim
Glauber Alex Dias Prado sma...@gmail.com writes:

 Richard Stallman r...@gnu.org writes:

 Please point me to the part of OrgMode with features for
 navigating and searching the filesystem in a tree structure.  I'm
 interested in checking i= t out and comparing it to xiki.

 The question that suggests itself to me
 is whether there is a way to separate out the various ideas,
 implemented by xiki and by Org mode, into modular features.

 Just to tell my grandchildren that once i was in the same thread as rms
 :), these two tools are awesome and i am using both, and would take
 advantage of a more modular design for easy integration instead of each
 one working in its own pet.

Just a data-point, but I've been using planner-mode for years, which
resembles Org-mode, and also seemingly Xiki, which I havent tried yet.

Planner uses Muse as its underlying wiki mode, and Muse is included in
Emacs.

As a user, I would also favor modularisation and re-use between these
modes.



 cheers,
 glauber.

-- 
Joakim Verona


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[Orgmode] Re: Xiki framework (wiki and tree emacs features)

2010-02-06 Thread Mark A. Hershberger
Craig Muth craig.m...@gmail.com writes:

 Here's an example of a xiki tree you might build up when working in some
 elisp files.  Could be useful for communicating about code on mailing lists
 like this one.  Forgive me if org mode (or something else) already does
 this.  If so please enlighten me - I'd be interested in checking it
 out.

It's hard for me to see exactly what is going on, but it doesn't look
like anything that OrgMode isn't already doing or could be made to do
with a SMOP.

Look at Emacs Starter Kit
(http://eschulte.github.com/emacs-starter-kit/) for an example of how
you can mix OrgMode markup and Emacs Lisp, for example.

Mark.

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[Orgmode] Re: Xiki framework (wiki and tree emacs features)

2010-02-06 Thread Craig Muth
 it doesn't look like anything that OrgMode isn't already
 doing or could be made to do with a SMOP

Hmm, really?  Did you watch both screencasts?

  http://xiki.org/screencasts/web_development.html
  http://xiki.org/screencasts/wiki_syntax.html

Please point me to the part of OrgMode with features for navigating and
searching the filesystem in a tree structure.  I'm interested in checking it
out and comparing it to xiki.

 an example of how you can mix OrgMode markup and Emacs Lisp

It sounds like you might be thinking that the lisp in that my tree was to be
executed.  That's not the case, it's for navigation (you use the tree to
jump to those lines in the files).

--Craig



On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.orgwrote:

 Craig Muth craig.m...@gmail.com writes:

  Here's an example of a xiki tree you might build up when working in some
  elisp files.  Could be useful for communicating about code on mailing
 lists
  like this one.  Forgive me if org mode (or something else) already does
  this.  If so please enlighten me - I'd be interested in checking it
  out.

 It's hard for me to see exactly what is going on, but it doesn't look
 like anything that OrgMode isn't already doing or could be made to do
 with a SMOP.

 Look at Emacs Starter Kit
 (http://eschulte.github.com/emacs-starter-kit/) for an example of how
 you can mix OrgMode markup and Emacs Lisp, for example.

 Mark.

 --
 http://hexmode.com/

 The only alternative to Tradition is bad tradition.
  — Jaraslov Pelikan

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[Orgmode] Re: Xiki framework (wiki and tree emacs features)

2010-02-06 Thread Richard Stallman
Please point me to the part of OrgMode with features for
navigating and searching the filesystem in a tree structure.  I'm
interested in checking i= t out and comparing it to xiki.

The question that suggests itself to me
is whether there is a way to separate out the various ideas,
implemented by xiki and by Org mode, into modular features.



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