Re: [Orgmode] Re: orgmode as a reference system: Storing private/sensitive information and syncing across devices.
Paul Sexton writes: > Check out: http://ccrypt.sourceforge.net/ > > There is an emacs package provided, ps-ccrypt.el, which provides seamless > loading & saving of encryted files. I have been using it with my org agenda > file for several months with no problems. > > Paul Emacs comes with everything you need. See the epa package in Emacs for seamless encryption. M-x customize-group RET epa RET Sebastian ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: orgmode as a reference system: Storing private/sensitive information and syncing across devices.
Check out: http://ccrypt.sourceforge.net/ There is an emacs package provided, ps-ccrypt.el, which provides seamless loading & saving of encryted files. I have been using it with my org agenda file for several months with no problems. Paul Marcelo de Moraes Serpa gmail.com> writes: } } Yeah, you are right. Even if the transport protocol is encrypted, } storing in plaintext doesn't sound like a good idea. Maybe we could } have a series of tutorials or guidelines written on how to use org "on } the cloud" securely, since I see many people are using it as their } main personal-information-manager and also are using mobile-org to } sync stuff across devices. } } Marcelo. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: orgmode as a reference system: Storing private/sensitive information and syncing across devices.
> Those who store _really_ sensitive data unencrypted in the cloud are > too lazy to think about it for a moment. Or just plain crazy. Or so > bored they are eagerly awaiting some trouble. Yeah, you are right. Even if the transport protocol is encrypted, storing in plaintext doesn't sound like a good idea. Maybe we could have a series of tutorials or guidelines written on how to use org "on the cloud" securely, since I see many people are using it as their main personal-information-manager and also are using mobile-org to sync stuff across devices. Marcelo. On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 3:45 AM, Detlef Steuer wrote: > On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 18:41:19 -0500 > Marcelo de Moraes Serpa wrote: > >> >> I wonder what you guys think about other note-taking software, such as >> Evernote, that operate in the cloud. I know many people that keep >> their sensitive data on Evernote and sync with different computers and >> devices. > > Those who store _really_ sensitive data unencrypted in the cloud are > too lazy to think about it for a moment. Or just plain crazy. Or so > bored they are eagerly awaiting some trouble. > > my 2 cents. > > Detlef > > > > >> >> Marcelo. >> >> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 6:15 PM, Sebastian Rose >> wrote: >> > Marcelo de Moraes Serpa writes: >> >> Hmm, never heard about it :) >> >> >> >> But I assume that -- at least in terms of network security -- having >> >> the WebDav server below a HTTPS layer is enough. This would at least >> >> put a layer of security for when I'm syncing between devices (in this >> >> case OSX<->WebDav<->MobileOrg). I know, however, there might be other >> >> holes or someone might even me able to just sit in front of my >> >> computer and fiddle through the org text files, so that might be a >> >> good use-case for org-crypt. >> > >> > >> > Hi Marcelo, >> > >> > >> > >> > unencrypted data is _not_ secure. >> > >> > Encrypt your data and you'll have a chance to lock your bank account >> > card just in time, once your iPod gets lost (or stolen). >> > >> > (Is it necessary to carry sensitive data around on your iPod??? Can't >> > believe it...) >> > >> > >> > As you might have guessed, I'm one of those "more neurotic" persons. >> > And more and more people join us --- to late in many cases. Encryption >> > is cheep. Unencrypted data can be expensive. >> > >> > >> > >> > Sebastian >> > >> >> ___ >> Emacs-orgmode mailing list >> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. >> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode >> > > > > ___ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: orgmode as a reference system: Storing private/sensitive information and syncing across devices.
On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 18:41:19 -0500 Marcelo de Moraes Serpa wrote: > > I wonder what you guys think about other note-taking software, such as > Evernote, that operate in the cloud. I know many people that keep > their sensitive data on Evernote and sync with different computers and > devices. Those who store _really_ sensitive data unencrypted in the cloud are too lazy to think about it for a moment. Or just plain crazy. Or so bored they are eagerly awaiting some trouble. my 2 cents. Detlef > > Marcelo. > > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 6:15 PM, Sebastian Rose wrote: > > Marcelo de Moraes Serpa writes: > >> Hmm, never heard about it :) > >> > >> But I assume that -- at least in terms of network security -- having > >> the WebDav server below a HTTPS layer is enough. This would at least > >> put a layer of security for when I'm syncing between devices (in this > >> case OSX<->WebDav<->MobileOrg). I know, however, there might be other > >> holes or someone might even me able to just sit in front of my > >> computer and fiddle through the org text files, so that might be a > >> good use-case for org-crypt. > > > > > > Hi Marcelo, > > > > > > > > unencrypted data is _not_ secure. > > > > Encrypt your data and you'll have a chance to lock your bank account > > card just in time, once your iPod gets lost (or stolen). > > > > (Is it necessary to carry sensitive data around on your iPod??? Can't > > believe it...) > > > > > > As you might have guessed, I'm one of those "more neurotic" persons. > > And more and more people join us --- to late in many cases. Encryption > > is cheep. Unencrypted data can be expensive. > > > > > > > > Sebastian > > > > ___ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: orgmode as a reference system: Storing private/sensitive information and syncing across devices.
Hi Sebastian, Well, org adds it because reference.org is part of agenda-file array. Not sure how I can exclude it from org-mobile even if it is added to the agenda view, any hints? As for encryption. I will do as you suggested. I wonder what you guys think about other note-taking software, such as Evernote, that operate in the cloud. I know many people that keep their sensitive data on Evernote and sync with different computers and devices. Marcelo. On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 6:15 PM, Sebastian Rose wrote: > Marcelo de Moraes Serpa writes: >> Hmm, never heard about it :) >> >> But I assume that -- at least in terms of network security -- having >> the WebDav server below a HTTPS layer is enough. This would at least >> put a layer of security for when I'm syncing between devices (in this >> case OSX<->WebDav<->MobileOrg). I know, however, there might be other >> holes or someone might even me able to just sit in front of my >> computer and fiddle through the org text files, so that might be a >> good use-case for org-crypt. > > > Hi Marcelo, > > > > unencrypted data is _not_ secure. > > Encrypt your data and you'll have a chance to lock your bank account > card just in time, once your iPod gets lost (or stolen). > > (Is it necessary to carry sensitive data around on your iPod??? Can't > believe it...) > > > As you might have guessed, I'm one of those "more neurotic" persons. > And more and more people join us --- to late in many cases. Encryption > is cheep. Unencrypted data can be expensive. > > > > Sebastian > ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: orgmode as a reference system: Storing private/sensitive information and syncing across devices.
Marcelo de Moraes Serpa writes: > Hmm, never heard about it :) > > But I assume that -- at least in terms of network security -- having > the WebDav server below a HTTPS layer is enough. This would at least > put a layer of security for when I'm syncing between devices (in this > case OSX<->WebDav<->MobileOrg). I know, however, there might be other > holes or someone might even me able to just sit in front of my > computer and fiddle through the org text files, so that might be a > good use-case for org-crypt. Hi Marcelo, unencrypted data is _not_ secure. Encrypt your data and you'll have a chance to lock your bank account card just in time, once your iPod gets lost (or stolen). (Is it necessary to carry sensitive data around on your iPod??? Can't believe it...) As you might have guessed, I'm one of those "more neurotic" persons. And more and more people join us --- to late in many cases. Encryption is cheep. Unencrypted data can be expensive. Sebastian ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: orgmode as a reference system: Storing private/sensitive information and syncing across devices.
Hmm, never heard about it :) But I assume that -- at least in terms of network security -- having the WebDav server below a HTTPS layer is enough. This would at least put a layer of security for when I'm syncing between devices (in this case OSX<->WebDav<->MobileOrg). I know, however, there might be other holes or someone might even me able to just sit in front of my computer and fiddle through the org text files, so that might be a good use-case for org-crypt. Marcelo. 2010/9/20 Sébastien Vauban : > Hi Marcelo, > > Marcelo de Moraes Serpa wrote: >> What I like about orgmode is that you know where the information is >> going. Can't beat plain text files in terms of simplicity. >> >> That being said, I store all my sensitive information in a huge >> reference.org file that is added to the agenda. I sync this (among >> other org files) to MobileOrg through a HTTPS-secured WebDav server. >> >> I know I'm pretty secure with that configuration, and that it is >> unlikely that someone will ever break into my credentials and other >> private information, unless somone has physical access to my iPod, for >> example. I also know that there are meny cloud services nowadays that >> do just that: Manage your sensitive information, and that's pretty >> much very secure. >> >> Well, I'd love to know what you think about it (storing / syncing >> private information across different devices, SSL-secure, of course) >> -- I know some will be more "neurotic" than others, and often enough >> reason -- how you store your private/sensitive information and any >> insights that you'd like to share are welcome ;) > > What about encrypting your really private headlines with org-crypt? Too much > to encrypt? Too much work? > > Best regards, > Seb > > -- > Sébastien Vauban > > > ___ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: orgmode as a reference system: Storing private/sensitive information and syncing across devices.
Hi Marcelo, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa wrote: > What I like about orgmode is that you know where the information is > going. Can't beat plain text files in terms of simplicity. > > That being said, I store all my sensitive information in a huge > reference.org file that is added to the agenda. I sync this (among > other org files) to MobileOrg through a HTTPS-secured WebDav server. > > I know I'm pretty secure with that configuration, and that it is > unlikely that someone will ever break into my credentials and other > private information, unless somone has physical access to my iPod, for > example. I also know that there are meny cloud services nowadays that > do just that: Manage your sensitive information, and that's pretty > much very secure. > > Well, I'd love to know what you think about it (storing / syncing > private information across different devices, SSL-secure, of course) > -- I know some will be more "neurotic" than others, and often enough > reason -- how you store your private/sensitive information and any > insights that you'd like to share are welcome ;) What about encrypting your really private headlines with org-crypt? Too much to encrypt? Too much work? Best regards, Seb -- Sébastien Vauban ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
