Re: [Orgmode] Should 'QUOTE' turn off in-buffer mark-up?

2009-06-02 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Jun 1, 2009, at 11:38 PM, Daniel J. Sinder wrote:

I just cut-and-pasted a table from the IETF RTP RFC into orgmode as  
follows:


* QUOTE RTP Header Format
 0   1   2   3
 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
 |V=2|P|X|  CC   |M| PT  |   sequence number |
 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
 |   timestamp   |
 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
 |   synchronization source (SSRC) identifier|
 +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+
 |contributing source (CSRC) identifiers |
 |   |
 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+

The orgmode markup rules make this a bit of a mess.  Actually, at  
least the content is undisturbed here, but I've seen worse -- for  
example, an otherwise well formatted table in which the columns have  
phone numbers with country codes starting with '+'.  This leads to  
strikeout marks that actually strike through the cell contents!


So, would it make sense to turn off in-buffer markup under headings  
marked with the QUOTE keyword? Of course, prefixing every line with  
':' has the desired effect, so there is an existing work-around, but  
requiring the prefix seems to make 'QUOTE' not very powerful/useful.


Indeed, QUOTE is useless and therefore has been removed from the docs.



(I can't find 'QUOTE' in the documentation now, so maybe this  
feature has been deprecated?  But, #+BEGIN/END_EXAMPLE has the same  
problem.)


Not anymore.

- Carsten



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[Orgmode] Should 'QUOTE' turn off in-buffer mark-up?

2009-06-01 Thread Daniel J. Sinder

I just cut-and-pasted a table from the IETF RTP RFC into orgmode as follows:

* QUOTE RTP Header Format
  0   1   2   3
  0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
  +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
  |V=2|P|X|  CC   |M| PT  |   sequence number |
  +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
  |   timestamp   |
  +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
  |   synchronization source (SSRC) identifier|
  +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+
  |contributing source (CSRC) identifiers |
  |   |
  +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+

The orgmode markup rules make this a bit of a mess.  Actually, at least 
the content is undisturbed here, but I've seen worse -- for example, an 
otherwise well formatted table in which the columns have phone numbers 
with country codes starting with '+'.  This leads to strikeout marks 
that actually strike through the cell contents!


So, would it make sense to turn off in-buffer markup under headings 
marked with the QUOTE keyword? Of course, prefixing every line with ':' 
has the desired effect, so there is an existing work-around, but 
requiring the prefix seems to make 'QUOTE' not very powerful/useful.


(I can't find 'QUOTE' in the documentation now, so maybe this feature 
has been deprecated?  But, #+BEGIN/END_EXAMPLE has the same problem.)


Dan



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