Re: [Orgmode] Sourceforge community award

2009-06-11 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Jun 10, 2009, at 1:59 AM, Bastien wrote:


Hi Rick,

maybe subscribers of this list could send a short video just saying
hello to the cam? (making it fancy or org-related is not forbidden!)
Then we could grab all this and blend it nicely into the video...



I have made a little start here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPsJpP6Fp28

Bastien will try to cut together a little youtube video about
Org-mode so that we can submit the youtube address of that to
the competition.

I think it would be really great if there would be clips from more
people in that movie, both contributors and users.  If you'd like
to help, please make a little movie of you saying a few sentences
or showing off something interesting, and put the video somewhere
where Bastien can pick it up.  All these clips need to be short, so
that people actually would like to watch it through.
I understand that Bastien will work on this during the weekend,
so we do not have a lot of time.

- Carsten




Rick Moynihan rick.moyni...@gmail.com writes:


I think the real problem here is the logistics of this.  Does anyone
have any experience with video?  Personally I'd like to see Carsten
(obviously), but I think the contributor net should be widened to
include at least one person who's made a significant contribution to
documenting org-mode best-practice, e.g. Bernt, Russel etc...

It'd be really nice to have the videos touch on both user and
developer perspective's, and perhaps even the fantastic community
interplay that occurs on this list.


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Re: [Orgmode] Sourceforge community award

2009-06-10 Thread Brian van den Broek

Carsten Dominik said unto the world at 09/06/09 08:48 AM:

OK, in my last email I already said that we have been selected
as a finalist for the Sourceforge Community Award in the category

Most Likely to Change the Way You Do Everything.

I am *very* excited about this, and I would love *us* to win
this award or at least deliver a very good showing.


snip


Below are the questions from sourceforge, let the brainstorming begin!

- Carsten

--

1. Complete this sentence in about 140 characters: Our project is
[-foo-].  For example, Our project is a tool that helps you wash your
car.


Org-mode allows you to master your personal and project information 
your way, in plain text, with features which stay out of your way 
until you want them, all backed by the power of Emacs.


(I didn't notice a mention of Emacs in other suggestions; seems 
essential to me.)




3. Please provide a logo (or screenshot, if you'd prefer) for your
project.  It should be at least 640x480, but we'll also be showing it
as a thumbnail.


If you go the screenshot way (along the lines of Carsten's mock-up), 
I'd suggest using split windows to show off more than one aspect of 
org-mode. I'm thinking a vertical split with an agenda buffer in one 
window. Static screenshots don't really do org-mode justice---it's 
text and superficially just text---and that might give a glimpse into 
how it is more.


Congrats on the well deserved finalist slot.

Brian vdB


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Re: [Orgmode] Sourceforge community award

2009-06-10 Thread Cameron Horsburgh
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 02:30:02AM -0400, Brian van den Broek wrote:

 3. Please provide a logo (or screenshot, if you'd prefer) for your
 project.  It should be at least 640x480, but we'll also be showing it
 as a thumbnail.

 If you go the screenshot way (along the lines of Carsten's mock-up), I'd 
 suggest using split windows to show off more than one aspect of  
 org-mode. I'm thinking a vertical split with an agenda buffer in one  
 window. Static screenshots don't really do org-mode justice---it's text 
 and superficially just text---and that might give a glimpse into how it 
 is more.


I'd also include a very important TODO in there:

* TODO yWorld domination [0/1]   :Office:
  - [ ] Win SourceForge Award

You get the idea. We need to show off what Org-mode is good for, as
well as appeal to the judges' Alpha geek humour.


 Congrats on the well deserved finalist slot.

Yep!


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Blog: http://spiritcry.wordpress.com/


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Re: [Orgmode] Sourceforge community award

2009-06-10 Thread Sebastian Rose
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes:
 ...
 --

 1. Complete this sentence in about 140 characters: Our project is
 [-foo-].  For example, Our project is a tool that helps you wash your
 car.

I wish we could use 140 words (or lines?).



85 Characters I heard in the TV lately:

  Org-mode - the craft of text-editing continued.
  All what text could ever do for you.

  (and even more)



136 Characters:

  Tired of flushing your writings into a binary drain? Still need
  spreadsheets, task managers and publishing tools? Org-mode is for you
  then.




  Sebastian


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Re: [Orgmode] Sourceforge community award

2009-06-10 Thread Sebastian Rose
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes:
 3. Please provide a logo (or screenshot, if you'd prefer) for your
 project.  It should be at least 640x480, but we'll also be showing it
 as a thumbnail.

In fact, the unicorn is the logo, what else?



  Sebastian


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Re: [Orgmode] Sourceforge community award

2009-06-10 Thread Ian Barton



1. Complete this sentence in about 140 characters: Our project is
[-foo-].  For example, Our project is a tool that helps you wash your
car.


Like a Unicorn, Org casts its magic spell over GTD.

Ian.


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Re: [Orgmode] Sourceforge community award

2009-06-10 Thread Dan Davison
 1. Complete this sentence in about 140 characters: Our project is
 [-foo-].  For example, Our project is a tool that helps you wash your
 car.

Our project is a uniquely rich life management and publishing tool, with
immense potential for extension by virtue of its implementation in
emacs.


 2. Complete this sentence, also in about 140 characters: We should win
 because [-bar-].  For example, We should win because we have a strong
 community and we solve a universal problem.

We should win because org is an immensely flexible and yet razor-sharp
tool for users today, built out of code that will be extended for
decades to come.

[My two sentences are rather similar...]


 3. Please provide a logo (or screenshot, if you'd prefer) for your
 project.  It should be at least 640x480, but we'll also be showing it
 as a thumbnail.

I tend to think that we want a screenshot. I doubt it would be as hard
to describe all the features of any of our competitors as it is for org!
So a screenshot seems like a good chance to pack it all in. I like
Brian's suggestion of split-windows. Maybe we could collaborate on a
bundle containing a minimal .emacs, color-theme code, and an org file
that sets up the color scheme, window confuguration and contents, and
people could submit patches / screenshots to improve it? [I like the win
competition checkbox]

Dan


 4. This one is optional, but it could make a big difference.  We'd like
 to show our voters a video that introduces them to the core members of
 your team.  Send along the URL (on YouTube) and we'll make sure they
 see it!

 6. Our finalists are usually pretty interesting people.  Are you
 willing to be contacted by our public relations team about interviews
 with the press?



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Re: [Orgmode] Sourceforge community award

2009-06-10 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Jun 10, 2009, at 2:54 PM, Dan Davison wrote:


1. Complete this sentence in about 140 characters: Our project is
[-foo-].  For example, Our project is a tool that helps you wash  
your

car.


Our project is a uniquely rich life management and publishing tool,  
with

immense potential for extension by virtue of its implementation in
emacs.



2. Complete this sentence, also in about 140 characters: We should  
win
because [-bar-].  For example, We should win because we have a  
strong

community and we solve a universal problem.


We should win because org is an immensely flexible and yet razor-sharp
tool for users today, built out of code that will be extended for
decades to come.

[My two sentences are rather similar...]



3. Please provide a logo (or screenshot, if you'd prefer) for your
project.  It should be at least 640x480, but we'll also be showing it
as a thumbnail.


I tend to think that we want a screenshot. I doubt it would be as hard
to describe all the features of any of our competitors as it is for  
org!

So a screenshot seems like a good chance to pack it all in. I like
Brian's suggestion of split-windows. Maybe we could collaborate on a
bundle containing a minimal .emacs, color-theme code, and an org file
that sets up the color scheme, window confuguration and contents, and
people could submit patches / screenshots to improve it? [I like the  
win

competition checkbox]


A friend of mine is working on a pretty nice color scheme that will  
also work reasonably well with the unicorn icon next to it or  
embedded.  I hope that we can use that for a nice screen shot.
I like the idea to make a nice screen setup, with an Org file and the  
agenda maybe, based on a simple example file.


We need to finish this stuff by Sunday (european time) because I am  
traveling Monday/Tuesday and would like to send the stuff on Sunday at  
the latest.


- Carsten



Dan



4. This one is optional, but it could make a big difference.  We'd  
like
to show our voters a video that introduces them to the core members  
of

your team.  Send along the URL (on YouTube) and we'll make sure they
see it!

6. Our finalists are usually pretty interesting people.  Are you
willing to be contacted by our public relations team about interviews
with the press?



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[Orgmode] Sourceforge community award

2009-06-09 Thread Carsten Dominik

OK, in my last email I already said that we have been selected
as a finalist for the Sourceforge Community Award in the category

Most Likely to Change the Way You Do Everything.

I am *very* excited about this, and I would love *us* to win
this award or at least deliver a very good showing.

We need to provide some information, within a week, and I would like
to invite all of you to makes proposals for the short sentences, for the
logo or screenshot we should be offering, and how to create a short
video about the main contributors.  Who should be in this video,
and how?

Anyone here who would like to do the collection/editing
of video snippets?  I have no technical knowledge in this area, and we
should think about a way to make a nice video showing *several* people,
that will also looks interesting for observers that are not our
default users.  This is where your help is *really* needed.

Below are the questions from sourceforge, let the brainstorming begin!

- Carsten

--

1. Complete this sentence in about 140 characters: Our project is
[-foo-].  For example, Our project is a tool that helps you wash your
car.

2. Complete this sentence, also in about 140 characters: We should win
because [-bar-].  For example, We should win because we have a strong
community and we solve a universal problem.

3. Please provide a logo (or screenshot, if you'd prefer) for your
project.  It should be at least 640x480, but we'll also be showing it
as a thumbnail.

4. This one is optional, but it could make a big difference.  We'd like
to show our voters a video that introduces them to the core members of
your team.  Send along the URL (on YouTube) and we'll make sure they
see it!

6. Our finalists are usually pretty interesting people.  Are you
willing to be contacted by our public relations team about interviews
with the press?



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Re: [Orgmode] Sourceforge community award

2009-06-09 Thread Bastien
Hi Carsten,

great news - suggestions below!

 1. Complete this sentence in about 140 characters: Our project is
 [-foo-].  For example, Our project is a tool that helps you wash your
 car.

Org is the extensible, customizable, self-documenting real-time project
planner. It makes you more productive by adapting itself to your needs.

 2. Complete this sentence, also in about 140 characters: We should win
 because [-bar-].  For example, We should win because we have a strong
 community and we solve a universal problem.

We should win because Org captures the essence of project planning.
Discovering Org is the best way to discover your productive self.

 3. Please provide a logo (or screenshot, if you'd prefer) for your
 project.  It should be at least 640x480, but we'll also be showing it
 as a thumbnail.

High-resolution picture of the Unicorn?

 4. This one is optional, but it could make a big difference.  We'd like
 to show our voters a video that introduces them to the core members of
 your team.  Send along the URL (on YouTube) and we'll make sure they
 see it!

Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes:

 We need to provide some information, within a week, and I would like
 to invite all of you to makes proposals for the short sentences, for the
 logo or screenshot we should be offering, and how to create a short
 video about the main contributors.  Who should be in this video,
 and how?

- Carsten's video at Google
- shots from Russell Adam's 
- shots from various screencasts
- ...

I've just added a small dirty screencast about plain lists:
http://lumiere.ens.fr/~guerry/org-playing-with-lists-screencast.php

I would *love* to have a screencast demonstrating Sebastian's org-infojs
- will work on this.

 Anyone here who would like to do the collection/editing
 of video snippets?  I have no technical knowledge in this area, and we
 should think about a way to make a nice video showing *several* people,
 that will also looks interesting for observers that are not our
 default users.  This is where your help is *really* needed.

I have basic knowledge in this area, nothing terrific.  I'd glad to help
if no Steven Spielberg jumps on this.  :)

-- 
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Re: [Orgmode] Sourceforge community award

2009-06-09 Thread Russell Adams
On Tue, Jun 09, 2009 at 02:48:23PM +0200, Carsten Dominik wrote:


 1. Complete this sentence in about 140 characters: Our project is
 [-foo-].  For example, Our project is a tool that helps you wash your
 car.

Our project is the most flexible and intuitive way to manage
everything, yes everything, in plain text.


 2. Complete this sentence, also in about 140 characters: We should win
 because [-bar-].  For example, We should win because we have a strong
 community and we solve a universal problem.


We should win because Org-mode has a history of excellence, growing
and adapting to its users' needs without losing itself in complexity.

 3. Please provide a logo (or screenshot, if you'd prefer) for your
 project.  It should be at least 640x480, but we'll also be showing it
 as a thumbnail.

Any ideas here? Bigger unicorn, or a screenshot?

 4. This one is optional, but it could make a big difference.  We'd like
 to show our voters a video that introduces them to the core members of
 your team.  Send along the URL (on YouTube) and we'll make sure they
 see it!


Would it be sufficient to link them to existing videos, or do we need
new material? I know not all the contributors are featured in existing
videos, if they want to be seen they need to post something in a
hurry. ;]


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Re: [Orgmode] Sourceforge community award

2009-06-09 Thread Bastien
Russell Adams rlad...@adamsinfoserv.com writes:

 3. Please provide a logo (or screenshot, if you'd prefer) for your
 project.  It should be at least 640x480, but we'll also be showing it
 as a thumbnail.

 Any ideas here? Bigger unicorn, or a screenshot?

A friend of mine did the graphical work for the first unicorn.

Maybe I can ping him and ask for a bigger/fancier Unicorn?

If so, what background symbolic directions shall I give him 
to inspire a new/better Unicorn?

-- 
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Re: [Orgmode] Sourceforge community award

2009-06-09 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Jun 9, 2009, at 4:46 PM, Bastien wrote:


Russell Adams rlad...@adamsinfoserv.com writes:


3. Please provide a logo (or screenshot, if you'd prefer) for your
project.  It should be at least 640x480, but we'll also be showing  
it

as a thumbnail.


Any ideas here? Bigger unicorn, or a screenshot?


A friend of mine did the graphical work for the first unicorn.

Maybe I can ping him and ask for a bigger/fancier Unicorn?

If so, what background symbolic directions shall I give him
to inspire a new/better Unicorn?


I don't really think we should change it.  I do have a scalable SVG  
version of it.
One possibility would be to make a combination of a nice screen shot  
(with a better color scheme like Peter Jones') and to integrate the  
Unicorn logo into that image.


- Carsten



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Re: [Orgmode] Sourceforge community award

2009-06-09 Thread Russell Adams
On Tue, Jun 09, 2009 at 04:46:40PM +0200, Bastien wrote:
 Russell Adams rlad...@adamsinfoserv.com writes:
 
  3. Please provide a logo (or screenshot, if you'd prefer) for your
  project.  It should be at least 640x480, but we'll also be showing it
  as a thumbnail.
 
  Any ideas here? Bigger unicorn, or a screenshot?
 
 A friend of mine did the graphical work for the first unicorn.
 
 Maybe I can ping him and ask for a bigger/fancier Unicorn?
 
 If so, what background symbolic directions shall I give him 
 to inspire a new/better Unicorn?
 
 -- 
  Bastien
 

A unicorn with an accordian for an abdomen! ;]


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Re: [Orgmode] Sourceforge community award

2009-06-09 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Jun 9, 2009, at 4:54 PM, Carsten Dominik wrote:



On Jun 9, 2009, at 4:46 PM, Bastien wrote:


Russell Adams rlad...@adamsinfoserv.com writes:


3. Please provide a logo (or screenshot, if you'd prefer) for your
project.  It should be at least 640x480, but we'll also be  
showing it

as a thumbnail.


Any ideas here? Bigger unicorn, or a screenshot?


A friend of mine did the graphical work for the first unicorn.

Maybe I can ping him and ask for a bigger/fancier Unicorn?

If so, what background symbolic directions shall I give him
to inspire a new/better Unicorn?


I don't really think we should change it.  I do have a scalable SVG
version of it.
One possibility would be to make a combination of a nice screen
shot (with a better color scheme like Peter Jones') and to integrate
the Unicorn logo into that image.


Something like this:

http://orgmode.org/Org-mode.png

Obviously done by a total graphics moron, so if you can do
better, let me know and I'll sent you the two images this is based  
on.


- Carsten




- Carsten



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RE: [Orgmode] Sourceforge community award

2009-06-09 Thread Chris Randle
Hi All,

For an alternative logo, I went to glassgiant.com and generated the
attached file using Christophe Bataillon's logo. I thought it fitted the
your life in plain text strapline rather well.

-- 
Chris Randle


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Re: [Orgmode] Sourceforge community award

2009-06-09 Thread srandby

Here are some ideas.


--

1. Complete this sentence in about 140 characters: Our project is
[-foo-].  For example, Our project is a tool that helps you wash your
car.


Our project is the best organizing tool that exists in this universe.



2. Complete this sentence, also in about 140 characters: We should win
because [-bar-].  For example, We should win because we have a strong
community and we solve a universal problem.


We should win because org-mode is transformative, innovative, and it is
supported and developed by an active and friendly community.



3. Please provide a logo (or screenshot, if you'd prefer) for your
project.  It should be at least 640x480, but we'll also be showing it
as a thumbnail.



I agree that an svg of the unicorn is good.


4. This one is optional, but it could make a big difference.  We'd like
to show our voters a video that introduces them to the core members of
your team.  Send along the URL (on YouTube) and we'll make sure they
see it!


Perhaps one could collect nice photos of each of the major contributors
who agree to be part of the video. These photos could be shown
sequentially (with appropriate transitions between photos) in the video
while the sound track would describe who is in each photo. If adding
sound is too much trouble, one could describe each photo with text,
maybe even org-mode style text.

It shouldn't be too hard to make such a video. I bet ffmpeg would work
to make a nice ogg video that could be posted on the org-mode website.
I'm sure it would be easy to put it on YouTube also.



6. Our finalists are usually pretty interesting people.  Are you
willing to be contacted by our public relations team about interviews
with the press?



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Re: [Orgmode] Sourceforge community award

2009-06-09 Thread Bastien
Chris Randle ch...@amlog.co.uk writes:

 For an alternative logo, I went to glassgiant.com and generated the
 attached file using Christophe Bataillon's logo. I thought it fitted the
 your life in plain text strapline rather well.

Great - I just added this to the Worg faq about the unicorn logo.

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Re: [Orgmode] Sourceforge community award

2009-06-09 Thread Rick Moynihan
2009/6/9 Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com:
 OK, in my last email I already said that we have been selected
 as a finalist for the Sourceforge Community Award in the category

 Most Likely to Change the Way You Do Everything.

 I am *very* excited about this, and I would love *us* to win
 this award or at least deliver a very good showing.

This is awesome news!  Congratulations to Carsten and everyone who
makes org-mode what it is!  Do we know who the competition is yet?

 We need to provide some information, within a week, and I would like
 to invite all of you to makes proposals for the short sentences, for the
 logo or screenshot we should be offering, and how to create a short
 video about the main contributors.  Who should be in this video,
 and how?

I think the real problem here is the logistics of this.  Does anyone
have any experience with video?  Personally I'd like to see Carsten
(obviously), but I think the contributor net should be widened to
include at least one person who's made a significant contribution to
documenting org-mode best-practice, e.g. Bernt, Russel etc...

It'd be really nice to have the videos touch on both user and
developer perspective's, and perhaps even the fantastic community
interplay that occurs on this list.

 Below are the questions from sourceforge, let the brainstorming begin!

 - Carsten

 1. Complete this sentence in about 140 characters: Our project is
 [-foo-].  For example, Our project is a tool that helps you wash your
 car.

Org is the life hacker's swiss army knife.  Sharp, quick and powerful
you'll use it to cut deadlines and craft your own path to productivity.

 2. Complete this sentence, also in about 140 characters: We should win
 because [-bar-].  For example, We should win because we have a strong
 community and we solve a universal problem.

I'm afraid I've wracked my brains and couldn't come up with anything I
was happy with for this one...  These snippets seem to work best when
you can use a consistent metaphor throughout and I struggle to find
one that flows convincingly with the rather trad (and arrogant) We
should win because ... ...  Though I'm really not happy with it, I
think using jargon intended to resonate with the O'Reilly set is a
good idea... e.g. life hacker, alpha geek, ... Can anyone offer
any improvements on what I've got? :

We should win because our community of productivity alpha geeks share
their secrets openly... The pace of Org development is proof it works!

 3. Please provide a logo (or screenshot, if you'd prefer) for your
 project.  It should be at least 640x480, but we'll also be showing it
 as a thumbnail.

 4. This one is optional, but it could make a big difference.  We'd like
 to show our voters a video that introduces them to the core members of
 your team.  Send along the URL (on YouTube) and we'll make sure they
 see it!

 6. Our finalists are usually pretty interesting people.  Are you
 willing to be contacted by our public relations team about interviews
 with the press?





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Re: [Orgmode] Sourceforge community award

2009-06-09 Thread Eddward DeVilla
Congratulations!  Org-mode, Carsten and the developers deserve the
recognition.  Now let's see.

1. Complete this sentence in about 140 characters: Our project is
[-foo-].  For example, Our project is a tool that helps you wash your
car.



Org-mode is the definition of lite weight productivity software.  It's
all the tools you need for planning, scheduling, managing projects,
organizing thoughts and more in a well documented, easy to learn and
use package.  Organize information in lists, tables, spread sheets,
outlines and more. Mark up, tag, cross reference, annotate and link
to/from your notes and information in the manner that suites you best
using the features you find useful while safely ignoring those
features you don't need.  Export and publish your information in
several formats for presentation or interoperability.  Extend it to
better suite the way you work and think using builtin hooks and APIs.


[too long, and yet not enough.  maybe...]


Org-mode is the simple, powerful management  organization tool that
other tools will have to try to match in flexibility and simplicity.



2. Complete this sentence, also in about 140 characters: We should win
because [-bar-].  For example, We should win because we have a strong
community and we solve a universal problem.


Org-mode already sets the bar high for organization tools and its
community has just begun developing plugins and useful/unexpected
extensions.


[It hurts to abbreviate it that much.]

That all I got.  I'm no good at video or art.  Sorry.

Edd


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