Re: [Orgmode] Speed commands (was: Release 6.33)
Trying out speedkeys and liking them, I guess I'm going to have a simple life using org from my phone from now on ;) Carsten Dominik schrieb: In the speed map, yes, there is space, and you can add keys yourself. But I would recommend making these with confirmation query. (setq org-speed-commands-user '((A . (let ((org-archive-default-command 'org-archive-to-archive-sibling)) (org-archive-subtree-default-with-confirmation) I am happy to have a discussion what additional commands should be present by default. This is what i'm using: ((y . (progn (delete-other-windows) (recenter-top-bottom 0))) (A . (if (y-or-n-p Archive this subtree or entry? ) (call-interactively org-archive-subtree) (error Abort))) (, . org-cycle-agenda-files)) There's no function org-archive-subtree-default-with-confirmation and org-agenda-archive-subtree-with-confirmation complains that I'm not in the agenda, so I've just adding my own y-or-n-p, since 'A' will actually move trees to an archive file. On my phone I get frequently annoyed when I can't see enough because emacs splits the screen all the time, so a speed key to unsplit and move the current item to the top of the screen is logical. I'm not completely happy with 'y', since it makes me think 'yank' but it's also slightly similar to 'l' and C-l is the default binding. How about having an alternative keymap with vi-like moving keys? I hardly ever use the C-b, C-f, C-n, C-p in my regular emacs work (mostly cursor keys) and so I'm actually more comfortable with using vi movement. (Because of playing nethack of course, hm, that's a nice and large fireplace you have there! What's for dinner?) Oh and the ',' is most obvious, I think. (Hey, what's with the torches? Oh right, nightime barbecue, haha!) Kind regards Friedel -- Friedrich Delgado Friedrichs frie...@nomaden.org TauPan on Ircnet and Freenode ;) ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Speed commands (was: Release 6.33)
Hi Friedrich, On Nov 20, 2009, at 3:35 PM, Friedrich Delgado Friedrichs wrote: Trying out speedkeys and liking them, I guess I'm going to have a simple life using org from my phone from now on ;) Carsten Dominik schrieb: In the speed map, yes, there is space, and you can add keys yourself. But I would recommend making these with confirmation query. (setq org-speed-commands-user '((A . (let ((org-archive-default-command 'org-archive-to-archive-sibling)) (org-archive-subtree-default-with-confirmation) I am happy to have a discussion what additional commands should be present by default. This is what i'm using: ((y . (progn (delete-other-windows) (recenter-top-bottom 0))) (A . (if (y-or-n-p Archive this subtree or entry? ) (call-interactively org-archive-subtree) (error Abort))) (, . org-cycle-agenda-files)) Thanks for sharing these! There's no function org-archive-subtree-default-with-confirmation and org-agenda-archive-subtree-with-confirmation complains that I'm not in the agenda, so I've just adding my own y-or-n-p, since 'A' will actually move trees to an archive file. The function is there, but the autoloads need to be up to date. make autoloads should do the trick, certainly in the latest git release. On my phone I get frequently annoyed when I can't see enough because emacs splits the screen all the time, so a speed key to unsplit and move the current item to the top of the screen is logical. I'm not completely happy with 'y', since it makes me think 'yank' but it's also slightly similar to 'l' and C-l is the default binding. How about having an alternative keymap with vi-like moving keys? I hardly ever use the C-b, C-f, C-n, C-p in my regular emacs work (mostly cursor keys) and so I'm actually more comfortable with using vi movement. I don't understand what you are proposing here. (Because of playing nethack of course, hm, that's a nice and large fireplace you have there! What's for dinner?) Oh and the ',' is most obvious, I think. This is nice, but I guess you want to stay in fast-key space. So (, . (progn (org-cycle-agenda-files) (or (and (bolp) (org-on-heading-p)) (outline-next-visible-heading 1 - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Speed commands (was: Release 6.33)
Carsten Dominik schrieb: ((y . (progn (delete-other-windows) (recenter-top-bottom 0))) (A . (if (y-or-n-p Archive this subtree or entry? ) (call-interactively org-archive-subtree) (error Abort))) (, . org-cycle-agenda-files)) There's a quote missing before org-archive-subtree here, btw. The function is there, but the autoloads need to be up to date. make autoloads should do the trick, certainly in the latest git release. Oops, I usually just do 'make' after git pull. Is autoloads not implied in the default target? How about having an alternative keymap with vi-like moving keys? I hardly ever use the C-b, C-f, C-n, C-p in my regular emacs work (mostly cursor keys) and so I'm actually more comfortable with using vi movement. I don't understand what you are proposing here. k for up, j for down, h for left and l for right. So I guess k would be previous-heading, j next heading, and h and l for the previous/next sibling on the same level. So I guess I have: j (org-speed-move-safe (quote outline-next-visible-heading)) k (org-speed-move-safe (quote outline-previous-visible-heading)) l (org-speed-move-safe (quote org-forward-same-level)) h (org-speed-move-safe (quote org-backward-same-level)) In the vi-movement map. And somebody who is more proficient with vi than I am probably can come up with some natural additions. This is just a thought, I wanted to see if anyone would bite ;) This is nice, but I guess you want to stay in fast-key space. So (, . (progn (org-cycle-agenda-files) (or (and (bolp) (org-on-heading-p)) (outline-next-visible-heading 1 ---Zitatende--- Ah, much better! Thanks! ;) -- Friedrich Delgado Friedrichs frie...@nomaden.org TauPan on Ircnet and Freenode ;) ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Speed commands (was: Release 6.33)
At Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:57:09 +0100, Carsten Dominik wrote: On Nov 20, 2009, at 3:35 PM, Friedrich Delgado Friedrichs wrote: How about having an alternative keymap with vi-like moving keys? I hardly ever use the C-b, C-f, C-n, C-p in my regular emacs work (mostly cursor keys) and so I'm actually more comfortable with using vi movement. I don't understand what you are proposing here. vi uses the home row keys (hjkl) for movement (left, down, up, right) and it's something those of us weaned on vi (30 years ago in my case) have a natural affinity for. I think Friedrich is proposing having 'j' instead of 'f' or 'n', 'k' instead of 'b' or 'p' for speed keys for motion (but am not sure whether 'h' and 'l' should be mapped to anything in particular). In fact, using viper mode with org-mode gives you this and works quite well overall but viper mode carries some unnecessary baggage. However, I would suggest that he can simply re-bind his speed keys. It's not really a suggestion for new functionality, I guess, unlike the other examples he gave (some of which were very appealing). ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Speed commands (was: Release 6.33)
At Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:57:09 +0100, Carsten Dominik wrote: This is nice, but I guess you want to stay in fast-key space. So (, . (progn (org-cycle-agenda-files) (or (and (bolp) (org-on-heading-p)) (outline-next-visible-heading 1 This is really nice and works like a charm... *except* in a very extreme case: one of my agenda files is typically empty other than a single top level heading. When I cycle through the agenda files, when I land in this file, I am typically placed at the end of the file (emacs remembers my last location). When this happens, speed keys are no longer active and, before I know it, I have a number of ',' added to the end of this file! Actually, I guess this problem generalises so that it would appear whenever the cycling takes you to a file where the current point is at the end (or near the end) of the file so there is actually no next heading? Maybe the or statement above needs another clause (which I unfortunately cannot suggest; sorry!). ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Speed commands
Hi Eric, try this: (progn (org-cycle-agenda-files) (when (not (and (bolp) (org-on-heading-p))) (outline-previous-visible-heading 1) (or (and (bolp) (org-on-heading-p)) (outline-next-visible-heading 1 Greetings, Stephan Also sprach Eric S Fraga: At Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:57:09 +0100, Carsten Dominik wrote: This is nice, but I guess you want to stay in fast-key space. So (, . (progn (org-cycle-agenda-files) (or (and (bolp) (org-on-heading-p)) (outline-next-visible-heading 1 This is really nice and works like a charm... *except* in a very extreme case: one of my agenda files is typically empty other than a single top level heading. When I cycle through the agenda files, when I land in this file, I am typically placed at the end of the file (emacs remembers my last location). When this happens, speed keys are no longer active and, before I know it, I have a number of ',' added to the end of this file! Actually, I guess this problem generalises so that it would appear whenever the cycling takes you to a file where the current point is at the end (or near the end) of the file so there is actually no next heading? Maybe the or statement above needs another clause (which I unfortunately cannot suggest; sorry!). ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Speed commands (was: Release 6.33)
Dear Friedrich, What sort of phone do you use? I am looking for a new phone and would like to use ogmode, of course. Thanks, - Raffi. On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Friedrich Delgado Friedrichs frie...@nomaden.org wrote: Trying out speedkeys and liking them, I guess I'm going to have a simple life using org from my phone from now on ;) Carsten Dominik schrieb: In the speed map, yes, there is space, and you can add keys yourself. But I would recommend making these with confirmation query. (setq org-speed-commands-user '((A . (let ((org-archive-default-command 'org-archive-to-archive-sibling)) (org-archive-subtree-default-with-confirmation) I am happy to have a discussion what additional commands should be present by default. This is what i'm using: ((y . (progn (delete-other-windows) (recenter-top-bottom 0))) (A . (if (y-or-n-p Archive this subtree or entry? ) (call-interactively org-archive-subtree) (error Abort))) (, . org-cycle-agenda-files)) There's no function org-archive-subtree-default-with-confirmation and org-agenda-archive-subtree-with-confirmation complains that I'm not in the agenda, so I've just adding my own y-or-n-p, since 'A' will actually move trees to an archive file. On my phone I get frequently annoyed when I can't see enough because emacs splits the screen all the time, so a speed key to unsplit and move the current item to the top of the screen is logical. I'm not completely happy with 'y', since it makes me think 'yank' but it's also slightly similar to 'l' and C-l is the default binding. How about having an alternative keymap with vi-like moving keys? I hardly ever use the C-b, C-f, C-n, C-p in my regular emacs work (mostly cursor keys) and so I'm actually more comfortable with using vi movement. (Because of playing nethack of course, hm, that's a nice and large fireplace you have there! What's for dinner?) Oh and the ',' is most obvious, I think. (Hey, what's with the torches? Oh right, nightime barbecue, haha!) Kind regards Friedel -- Friedrich Delgado Friedrichs frie...@nomaden.org TauPan on Ircnet and Freenode ;) ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Speed commands
At Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:13:11 +0100, Stephan Schmitt wrote: Hi Eric, try this: (progn (org-cycle-agenda-files) (when (not (and (bolp) (org-on-heading-p))) (outline-previous-visible-heading 1) (or (and (bolp) (org-on-heading-p)) (outline-next-visible-heading 1 Excellent. Works perfectly. (and makes so much sense that it gives me a doh moment -- why didn't I think of that? isn't hindsight wonderful? :-) Many thanks. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Speed commands (was: Release 6.33)
At Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:29:15 +0100, Friedrich Delgado Friedrichs wrote: k for up, j for down, h for left and l for right. So I guess k would be previous-heading, j next heading, and h and l for the previous/next sibling on the same level. So I guess I have: j (org-speed-move-safe (quote outline-next-visible-heading)) k (org-speed-move-safe (quote outline-previous-visible-heading)) l (org-speed-move-safe (quote org-forward-same-level)) h (org-speed-move-safe (quote org-backward-same-level)) I'm actually playing around with this combination: --8---cut here---start-8--- (h org-speed-move-safe 'outline-up-heading) (j org-speed-move-safe 'outline-forward-same-level) (k org-speed-move-safe 'outline-backward-same-level) (l org-speed-move-safe 'outline-next-visible-heading) --8---cut here---end---8--- and it's almost quite natural (for me) but quite the opposite of what you have defined/suggested! Interesting. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Speed commands (was: Release 6.33)
Hi! Sorry I have to clarify this a bit: Raffi R schrieb: What sort of phone do you use? I am looking for a new phone and would like to use ogmode, of course. On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Friedrich Delgado Friedrichs frie...@nomaden.org wrote: Trying out speedkeys and liking them, I guess I'm going to have a simple life using org from my phone from now on ;) ---Zitatende--- Note that I wrote from my phone not on my phone. I use a T-Mobile G1 (HTC Dream) which has a very excellent ssh client called connectbot (http://code.google.com/p/connectbot/ it's free software, too) and I use org-mode via ssh and emacsclient -t on a remote system. To say that I use it is saying a bit much, since I've only used it so far to look things up, since editing used to be very inconvenient, because having to type typical emacs control sequences is really tough on the small keyboard. That's why I think the speedkeys are going to help me quite a lot, but I didn't really give it a go yet. Btw. it's great that I posted my speed key setup on this mailing list, not only for the great input I received: Due to some inexplicable screwup with my emacs config and git over 3 machines, I lost my configuration changes. (I think my dirty hack to split customisation files has destroyed the speed key config, so it's most likely not emacs' or org-modes's fault.) But now I can just easily recreate it from the posts ;) Good evening Friedel -- Friedrich Delgado Friedrichs frie...@nomaden.org TauPan on Ircnet and Freenode ;) pgp96ckHzyfJO.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Speed commands (was: Release 6.33)
Doh! Due to some inexplicable screwup with my emacs config and git over 3 machines, I lost my configuration changes. ---Zitatende--- It's late, I just forgot to git pull my config ;) -- Friedrich Delgado Friedrichs frie...@nomaden.org TauPan on Ircnet and Freenode ;) ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Speed commands
On Nov 18, 2009, at 4:09 PM, Jason Dunsmore wrote: Carsten Dominik domi...@uva.nl writes: On Nov 13, 2009, at 8:16 PM, Stephan Schmitt wrote: Carsten Dominik wrote: [...] ... so there are keys left to spend unique keys for the 'agenda' and 'archive' commands ;-) In the speed map, yes, there is space, and you can add keys yourself. But I would recommend making these with confirmation query. (setq org-speed-commands-user '((A . (let ((org-archive-default-command 'org-archive-to-archive-sibling)) (org-archive-subtree-default-with-confirmation) I have to (require 'org-archive) for the org-archive-subtree-default-with-confirmation function to be available. This seems like core functionality of org-mode. Why does it need to be explicitly loaded? Should be auoloaded, this is a bug. Fixed now, please don' forget to (after pulling) re-make org-install.el by running make or at least make autoloads. HTH - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Speed commands
Hi Dan, these are nice, but somehow I find the n command logical and the p command confusing :-) - Carsten On Nov 15, 2009, at 3:44 AM, Dan Davison wrote: Dan Davison davi...@stats.ox.ac.uk writes: Carsten Dominik domi...@uva.nl writes: ... I am happy to have a discussion what additional commands should be present by default. I thought a speed command for scrolling through an org document might be good -- move from heading to heading, displaying the next entry while keeping all others hidden, and close subtrees as you leave them. Here are simplified versions of the forward- and backward-scroll speed commands that I'm suggesting. - (defun ded/org-show-next-heading-tidily () Show next entry, keeping other entries closed. (if (save-excursion (end-of-line) (outline-invisible-p)) (progn (org-show-entry) (show-children)) (outline-next-heading) (unless (and (bolp) (org-on-heading-p)) (org-up-heading-safe) (hide-subtree) (error Boundary reached)) (org-overview) (org-reveal t) (org-show-entry) (show-children))) (defun ded/org-show-previous-heading-tidily () Show previous entry, keeping other entries closed. (let ((pos (point))) (outline-previous-heading) (unless (and ( (point) pos) (bolp) (org-on-heading-p)) (goto-char pos) (hide-subtree) (error Boundary reached)) (org-overview) (org-reveal t) (org-show-entry) (show-children))) (setq org-use-speed-commands t) (add-to-list 'org-speed-commands-user '(n ded/org-show-next-heading-tidily)) (add-to-list 'org-speed-commands-user '(p ded/org-show-previous-heading-tidily)) - Dan Or is there already an org command that does something like this? (Try starting with everything closed.) -- (defun ded/org-show-next-heading-tidily () Show next entry, keeping other entries closed. (if (save-excursion (end-of-line) (outline-invisible-p)) (org-cycle) (let ((level (org-current-level))) (unless (org-heading-has-child-p) (org-cycle)) (outline-next-heading) (if ( (org-current-level) level) (save-excursion (outline-backward-same-level 1) (org-cycle))) (if (and (bolp) (org-on-heading-p)) (org-cycle) (outline-up-heading 1 t) (org-cycle) (error Boundary reached) (setq org-use-speed-commands t) (add-to-list 'org-speed-commands-user '(s ded/org-show-next-heading-tidily)) -- (space might be quite natural for this one, it seems to get used for scrolling e.g. in dired and gnus) Dan - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Speed commands
Dan Davison davi...@stats.ox.ac.uk writes: Carsten Dominik domi...@uva.nl writes: ... I am happy to have a discussion what additional commands should be present by default. I thought a speed command for scrolling through an org document might be good -- move from heading to heading, displaying the next entry while keeping all others hidden, and close subtrees as you leave them. Here are simplified versions of the forward- and backward-scroll speed commands that I'm suggesting. - (defun ded/org-show-next-heading-tidily () Show next entry, keeping other entries closed. (if (save-excursion (end-of-line) (outline-invisible-p)) (progn (org-show-entry) (show-children)) (outline-next-heading) (unless (and (bolp) (org-on-heading-p)) (org-up-heading-safe) (hide-subtree) (error Boundary reached)) (org-overview) (org-reveal t) (org-show-entry) (show-children))) (defun ded/org-show-previous-heading-tidily () Show previous entry, keeping other entries closed. (let ((pos (point))) (outline-previous-heading) (unless (and ( (point) pos) (bolp) (org-on-heading-p)) (goto-char pos) (hide-subtree) (error Boundary reached)) (org-overview) (org-reveal t) (org-show-entry) (show-children))) (setq org-use-speed-commands t) (add-to-list 'org-speed-commands-user '(n ded/org-show-next-heading-tidily)) (add-to-list 'org-speed-commands-user '(p ded/org-show-previous-heading-tidily)) - Dan Or is there already an org command that does something like this? (Try starting with everything closed.) -- (defun ded/org-show-next-heading-tidily () Show next entry, keeping other entries closed. (if (save-excursion (end-of-line) (outline-invisible-p)) (org-cycle) (let ((level (org-current-level))) (unless (org-heading-has-child-p) (org-cycle)) (outline-next-heading) (if ( (org-current-level) level) (save-excursion (outline-backward-same-level 1) (org-cycle))) (if (and (bolp) (org-on-heading-p)) (org-cycle) (outline-up-heading 1 t) (org-cycle) (error Boundary reached) (setq org-use-speed-commands t) (add-to-list 'org-speed-commands-user '(s ded/org-show-next-heading-tidily)) -- (space might be quite natural for this one, it seems to get used for scrolling e.g. in dired and gnus) Dan - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Speed commands (was: Release 6.33)
Carsten Dominik wrote: On Nov 13, 2009, at 6:48 PM, Eric S Fraga wrote: Excellent addition! This makes org-mode even /more/ usable on systems with very small keyboards (like smartphones etc). I'd been using viper-mode to have single key movement in org-mode buffers but you've not only made this possible but have completely exceeded my requirements through all the extra commands available (clocking in, etc.). Fantastic! Hi Eric, yes, I agree that this is very useful on ttys and mobile devices. When you use it, please make a note when you notice additional commands hat would be useful in this way - the keymap is far from full. - Carsten ... so there are keys left to spend unique keys for the 'agenda' and 'archive' commands ;-) Stephan (who loves the speed commands, too) ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Speed commands (was: Release 6.33)
On Nov 13, 2009, at 8:16 PM, Stephan Schmitt wrote: Carsten Dominik wrote: On Nov 13, 2009, at 6:48 PM, Eric S Fraga wrote: Excellent addition! This makes org-mode even /more/ usable on systems with very small keyboards (like smartphones etc). I'd been using viper-mode to have single key movement in org-mode buffers but you've not only made this possible but have completely exceeded my requirements through all the extra commands available (clocking in, etc.). Fantastic! Hi Eric, yes, I agree that this is very useful on ttys and mobile devices. When you use it, please make a note when you notice additional commands hat would be useful in this way - the keymap is far from full. - Carsten ... so there are keys left to spend unique keys for the 'agenda' and 'archive' commands ;-) In the speed map, yes, there is space, and you can add keys yourself. But I would recommend making these with confirmation query. (setq org-speed-commands-user '((A . (let ((org-archive-default-command 'org-archive-to-archive-sibling)) (org-archive-subtree-default-with-confirmation) I am happy to have a discussion what additional commands should be present by default. - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Speed commands
sorry, I wasn't clear. I wanted to point out that in the org-speed-commands-default constant the letter 'a' is assigned twice: (a . org-agenda) (a . org-archive-subtree-default-with-confirmation) sure, I can change this for myself, but I thought it would make sense to avoid such a clash in the default map. Best, Stephan Carsten Dominik wrote: On Nov 13, 2009, at 8:16 PM, Stephan Schmitt wrote: When you use it, please make a note when you notice additional commands hat would be useful in this way - the keymap is far from full. - Carsten ... so there are keys left to spend unique keys for the 'agenda' and 'archive' commands ;-) In the speed map, yes, there is space, and you can add keys yourself. But I would recommend making these with confirmation query. (setq org-speed-commands-user '((A . (let ((org-archive-default-command 'org-archive-to-archive-sibling)) (org-archive-subtree-default-with-confirmation) I am happy to have a discussion what additional commands should be present by default. - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Speed commands
Wow, indeed :-) - Carsten On Nov 13, 2009, at 9:09 PM, Stephan Schmitt wrote: sorry, I wasn't clear. I wanted to point out that in the org-speed-commands-default constant the letter 'a' is assigned twice: (a . org-agenda) (a . org-archive-subtree-default-with-confirmation) sure, I can change this for myself, but I thought it would make sense to avoid such a clash in the default map. Best, Stephan Carsten Dominik wrote: On Nov 13, 2009, at 8:16 PM, Stephan Schmitt wrote: When you use it, please make a note when you notice additional commands hat would be useful in this way - the keymap is far from full. - Carsten ... so there are keys left to spend unique keys for the 'agenda' and 'archive' commands ;-) In the speed map, yes, there is space, and you can add keys yourself. But I would recommend making these with confirmation query. (setq org-speed-commands-user '((A . (let ((org-archive-default-command 'org-archive-to-archive-sibling)) (org-archive-subtree-default-with-confirmation) I am happy to have a discussion what additional commands should be present by default. - Carsten - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Speed commands
Carsten Dominik domi...@uva.nl writes: ... I am happy to have a discussion what additional commands should be present by default. I thought a speed command for scrolling through an org document might be good -- move from heading to heading, displaying the next entry while keeping all others hidden, and close subtrees as you leave them. Or is there already an org command that does something like this? (Try starting with everything closed.) -- (defun ded/org-show-next-heading-tidily () Show next entry, keeping other entries closed. (if (save-excursion (end-of-line) (outline-invisible-p)) (org-cycle) (let ((level (org-current-level))) (unless (org-heading-has-child-p) (org-cycle)) (outline-next-heading) (if ( (org-current-level) level) (save-excursion (outline-backward-same-level 1) (org-cycle))) (if (and (bolp) (org-on-heading-p)) (org-cycle) (outline-up-heading 1 t) (org-cycle) (error Boundary reached) (setq org-use-speed-commands t) (add-to-list 'org-speed-commands-user '(s ded/org-show-next-heading-tidily)) -- (space might be quite natural for this one, it seems to get used for scrolling e.g. in dired and gnus) Dan - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
