Re: [Orgmode] reloading causes visibility bug requiring restart
On Apr 7, 2009, at 10:37 PM, Samuel Wales wrote: Thanks, Carsten. That sounds like exactly the right solution. One question. Are there any org .elc files that perform actions upon loading? e..g. defining a key that the user might have redefined in a hook or setting a variable that the user might have reset? If so, reloading might cause unexpected behavior. Or is this all taken care of if the user is careful? My guess is that you've already considered this, but thought it worth asking just in case. I am not sure myself. - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] reloading causes visibility bug requiring restart
I have fixed org-reload, it will now only reload files that actually have been loaded before. Also, the reloading will now also cover any files from the contrib/lisp directory. - Carsten On Apr 6, 2009, at 12:57 PM, Carsten Dominik wrote: I believe I know what s causing this. Reloading Org actually does load *all* of org, including, for example, org-inlinetask. I think that this is what is causing the problems. That will mean that org-reload needs fixing, and maybe that there is something wrong with the inline tasks. If more people could test the inline tasks, maybe some bug will be identified. I don't use org-cycle-include-plain-lists, so it ma be that the interaction of inline tasks with plain list cycling causes some of the problems. - Carsten On Apr 6, 2009, at 7:56 AM, Manish wrote: On Apr 5, 2009, at 8:18 PM, Samuel Wales wrote: I can't do the typing to formally document this, so I will just ask if others experience it. If not, it will take a while. Repeatably, with the latest git, emacs 22 cocoa, reloading org causes folding/visibility/cycling problems that are not fixable by reverting. Only restarting emacs fixes it. The problems are weird enough that it should be obvious if you try it. Seemingly random plain list items being the only visible part, etc. There is no cycling state in which all is shown, either from bob or from headline. On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 12:57 AM, Carsten Dominik wrote: Hi Samuel, is this something that started recently, or that you have observed over a longer period of time? I also experienced those cycling issues in past two days (with no change in Org config, only git updates) but I have since Emacs a couple of times (for unrelated reasons.) I will try gather more details if I see it again. -- Manish ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] reloading causes visibility bug requiring restart
On Apr 6, 2009, at 7:56 AM, Manish wrote: On Apr 5, 2009, at 8:18 PM, Samuel Wales wrote: I can't do the typing to formally document this, so I will just ask if others experience it. If not, it will take a while. Repeatably, with the latest git, emacs 22 cocoa, reloading org causes folding/visibility/cycling problems that are not fixable by reverting. Only restarting emacs fixes it. The problems are weird enough that it should be obvious if you try it. Seemingly random plain list items being the only visible part, etc. There is no cycling state in which all is shown, either from bob or from headline. On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 12:57 AM, Carsten Dominik wrote: Hi Samuel, is this something that started recently, or that you have observed over a longer period of time? I also experienced those cycling issues in past two days (with no change in Org config, only git updates) but I have since Emacs a couple of times (for unrelated reasons.) I will try gather more details if I see it again. I believe the only visibility change I have made in a log time is the one related to inline tasks. It would be interesting to see if the problems disappear by going back to commit 49878b0387e6eb0a53971548db8b7a1a9313b4f8 - Carsten -- Manish ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] reloading causes visibility bug requiring restart
I believe I know what s causing this. Reloading Org actually does load *all* of org, including, for example, org-inlinetask. I think that this is what is causing the problems. That will mean that org-reload needs fixing, and maybe that there is something wrong with the inline tasks. If more people could test the inline tasks, maybe some bug will be identified. I don't use org-cycle-include-plain-lists, so it ma be that the interaction of inline tasks with plain list cycling causes some of the problems. - Carsten On Apr 6, 2009, at 7:56 AM, Manish wrote: On Apr 5, 2009, at 8:18 PM, Samuel Wales wrote: I can't do the typing to formally document this, so I will just ask if others experience it. If not, it will take a while. Repeatably, with the latest git, emacs 22 cocoa, reloading org causes folding/visibility/cycling problems that are not fixable by reverting. Only restarting emacs fixes it. The problems are weird enough that it should be obvious if you try it. Seemingly random plain list items being the only visible part, etc. There is no cycling state in which all is shown, either from bob or from headline. On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 12:57 AM, Carsten Dominik wrote: Hi Samuel, is this something that started recently, or that you have observed over a longer period of time? I also experienced those cycling issues in past two days (with no change in Org config, only git updates) but I have since Emacs a couple of times (for unrelated reasons.) I will try gather more details if I see it again. -- Manish ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] reloading causes visibility bug requiring restart
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Sebastian Rose wrote: Cannot reproduce this on Linux/emacs23 with inline tasks on. I added scheduling and logbock drawer too, toggled the todo state for the inline tasks, reloaded again... No problem at all. Maybe a little test file would help to reproduce it? I experienced it briefly this weekend but not any more. I can not reproduce this at will. I also moved to Emacs pre-test at the same time so it could be something to do with that as well.. or not. Sorry. -- Manish ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] reloading causes visibility bug requiring restart
Only tried repeating it in past few d. Noticed in last few w but don't remember details and was transient. (A complicated standard test case .org distributed with org might help in cases like this -- less need for reporter to create minimal reproducible version. If behavior not reproducible, the reporter can update the test case.) Yes, I cycle plain lists. But the issues do not only affect plain lists. Most headlines never show with headline cycling. -- Myalgic encephalomyelitis denialism is causing death and severe suffering, worse than multiple sclerosis. It is corrupting science in the most foul way possible. Anybody can get the disease at any time -- permanently. How much do science and justice matter to you? http://www.meactionuk.org.uk/What_Is_ME_What_Is_CFS.htm ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] reloading causes visibility bug requiring restart
I can't do the typing to formally document this, so I will just ask if others experience it. If not, it will take a while. Repeatably, with the latest git, emacs 22 cocoa, reloading org causes folding/visibility/cycling problems that are not fixable by reverting. Only restarting emacs fixes it. The problems are weird enough that it should be obvious if you try it. Seemingly random plain list items being the only visible part, etc. There is no cycling state in which all is shown, either from bob or from headline. Thanks. -- Myalgic encephalomyelitis denialism is causing death and severe suffering, worse than multiple sclerosis. It is corrupting science in the most foul way possible. Anybody can get the disease at any time -- permanently. How much do science and justice matter to you? http://www.meactionuk.org.uk/What_Is_ME_What_Is_CFS.htm ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] reloading causes visibility bug requiring restart
On Apr 5, 2009, at 8:18 PM, Samuel Wales wrote: I can't do the typing to formally document this, so I will just ask if others experience it. If not, it will take a while. Repeatably, with the latest git, emacs 22 cocoa, reloading org causes folding/visibility/cycling problems that are not fixable by reverting. Only restarting emacs fixes it. The problems are weird enough that it should be obvious if you try it. Seemingly random plain list items being the only visible part, etc. There is no cycling state in which all is shown, either from bob or from headline. On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 12:57 AM, Carsten Dominik wrote: Hi Samuel, is this something that started recently, or that you have observed over a longer period of time? I also experienced those cycling issues in past two days (with no change in Org config, only git updates) but I have since Emacs a couple of times (for unrelated reasons.) I will try gather more details if I see it again. -- Manish ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
