Re: did behaviour of RET change again?

2020-12-24 Thread Devin Prater
For me, I don't like my paragraphs indented. That just adds more speech from Emacspeak. I'm glad y'all talked about which setting does this so I can turn it off.. I mean, I don't know of any reason why paragraphs should be indented, but that's just my opinion. Maybe visual appeal, looking more

Re: did behaviour of RET change again?

2020-12-23 Thread Tom Gillespie
> possibly i'm misunderstanding, but my sense is that the value of org > adapt indentation doesn't change what you might actually find ("in a > .org file in the wild"). so, whatever its value, your grammar would > have to deal with all cases? Yep, we can't magically change all the files out in

Re: did behaviour of RET change again?

2020-12-23 Thread Greg Minshall
Tom, > The other reason I think this is a good idea is because I have been > working on a formal grammar for the org syntax, and everything would > be SO much simpler about the implementation after the first pass parse > if the canonical representation of an Org file did not allow > significant

Re: did behaviour of RET change again?

2020-12-23 Thread Tom Gillespie
> in case not obvious, i am suggesting a nil value for org adapt indentation. > thus no physical indentation of all lines including planning lines. > i'd even suggest no physical indentation as default for example and > source blocks, but that is a can of worms. I know that this is a can of

Re: did behaviour of RET change again?

2020-12-22 Thread Samuel Wales
in case not obvious, i am suggesting a nil value for org adapt indentation. thus no physical indentation of all lines including planning lines. i'd even suggest no physical indentation as default for example and source blocks, but that is a can of worms. On 12/22/20, Samuel Wales wrote: >

Re: did behaviour of RET change again?

2020-12-22 Thread Samuel Wales
there are just a few defaults i think are better for new users, despite discoverability. no indentation is one such. 1 changes org files less [better for e.g. merging] 2 requires less filling maintenance [for the body text; bastien's change works here] 3 requires less adjustment when

Re: did behaviour of RET change again?

2020-12-22 Thread Kyle Meyer
Bastien writes: > Also, I'm thinking of using headline-data as the new default for the > org-adapt-indentation option. WDYT? FWIW if we're going to change the default, I'd vote for the simpler and longer-existing nil value.

Re: did behaviour of RET change again?

2020-12-21 Thread Kévin Le Gouguec
Bastien writes: > I see something wrong right now: RET after a headline should only try > to indent below the beginning of the headline with org-adapt-indentation > is t, but not nil or headline-data. > > For now, when org-adapt-indentation is headline-data, RET still indents. > > I will see

Re: did behaviour of RET change again?

2020-12-21 Thread Eric S Fraga
Just to say that RET seems to be working again. No idea what happened or changed, mind you... Sorry for the noise. -- : Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.50, Org release_9.4.3-150-g6b83c6

Re: did behaviour of RET change again?

2020-12-21 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Sunday, 20 Dec 2020 at 18:25, Bastien wrote: > I see something wrong right now: RET after a headline should only try > to indent below the beginning of the headline with org-adapt-indentation > is t, but not nil or headline-data. Interesting. I have org-adapt-indentation set to nil as I use

Re: did behaviour of RET change again?

2020-12-20 Thread Gustavo Barros
Hi All, On Sun, 20 Dec 2020 at 18:25, Bastien wrote: > > Also, I'm thinking of using headline-data as the new default for the > org-adapt-indentation option. WDYT? > > I know Kevin as a good overview of the whole topic, maybe he can also > advise about what should be done here. I cannot but

Re: did behaviour of RET change again?

2020-12-20 Thread Bastien
Hi Eric, Eric S Fraga writes: > Just a quick heads-up: > > I have just installed org from git (a few hours ago) and now it seems > that RET no longer indents. Is this intentional? I've not closely followed this, sorry. I see something wrong right now: RET after a headline should only try to

Re: did behaviour of RET change again?

2020-12-18 Thread Pankaj Jangid
Eric S Fraga writes: > On Friday, 18 Dec 2020 at 20:12, Pankaj Jangid wrote: >> I am using 9.4.2 from emacs-master. It is working fine there. > > I'm on 9.4.3... Today, I have 9.4.3 from emacs-master. And the feature is working perfectly fine in this as well C-j and RET, both working

Re: did behaviour of RET change again?

2020-12-18 Thread Berry, Charles
> On Dec 18, 2020, at 5:06 AM, Eric S Fraga wrote: > > Just a quick heads-up: > > I have just installed org from git (a few hours ago) and now it seems > that RET no longer indents. Is this intentional? > > I know that there has been some discussion on the mailing list but I > seem to have

Re: did behaviour of RET change again?

2020-12-18 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Friday, 18 Dec 2020 at 20:12, Pankaj Jangid wrote: > I am using 9.4.2 from emacs-master. It is working fine there. I'm on 9.4.3... -- : Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.50, Org release_9.4.3-150-g6b83c6

Re: did behaviour of RET change again?

2020-12-18 Thread Pankaj Jangid
Eric S Fraga writes: > I have just installed org from git (a few hours ago) and now it seems > that RET no longer indents. Is this intentional? > > I know that there has been some discussion on the mailing list but I > seem to have lost track of the decision, if any, taken. RET and C-j now >

did behaviour of RET change again?

2020-12-18 Thread Eric S Fraga
Just a quick heads-up: I have just installed org from git (a few hours ago) and now it seems that RET no longer indents. Is this intentional? I know that there has been some discussion on the mailing list but I seem to have lost track of the decision, if any, taken. RET and C-j now behave the