Re: [O] Citations, continued

2015-02-02 Thread John Kitchin
You can color your own links like this: (highlight-regexp cite:\\([a-zA-Z0-9]*[-_:]*\\)* 'dired-warning) (highlight-regexp citenum:\\([a-zA-Z0-9]*[-_:]*\\)* 'dired-marked) The regexps are not as robust as what org uses, the plain link on my system looks like:

[O] Bug: agenda interaction with org-agenda-dim-blocked-tasks, org-agenda-max-entries and org-enforce-todo-dependencies [8.3beta (release_8.3beta-785-gb5d9f4 @ /Users/yn/dotfiles/org.emacs.d/org-mode/

2015-02-02 Thread Yuri Niyazov
Consider the following org file: * Tasks ** Ordered Tasks :PROPERTIES: :ORDERED: t :END: *** TODO Module 1 TODO Item 1 SCHEDULED: 2015-02-01 Sun TODO Item 2 SCHEDULED: 2015-02-01 Sun *** TODO Module 2 TODO Item 3 SCHEDULED: 2015-02-01 Sun TODO Item 4 SCHEDULED: 2015-02-01 Sun

Re: [O] Citations, continued

2015-02-02 Thread John Kitchin
I'm glad you like Samuel's idea about extensible syntax for links. I don't know if it is practical or not, but it was one of those ideas that seemed right on when I first read it. I am glad you mentioned, it was an inspiration! Although this is sure to move away from a standard new syntax, it

Re: [O] Citations, continued

2015-02-02 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Hi John, Wow. It's inspiring to see Samuel's idea in action. Presumably, something like this would also be possible? ;; follow function (lambda (path) (let* ((data (read (concat ( path (head (car data)) (plist (cadr data))) (funcall (plist-get plist :follow)

Re: [O] Citations, continued

2015-02-02 Thread John Kitchin
Thanks! I had been thinking about how to do that for a while, and seeing Samuel's idea crytallized it for me. Thanks Samuel, and Tom for remembering it from long ago. yes that should also be possible. once you open the rabbit hole of embedded lisp, many things are possible ;) even beyond

Re: [O] Citations, continued

2015-02-02 Thread Rasmus
John Kitchin jkitc...@andrew.cmu.edu writes: #+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp :results silent (org-add-link-type slink ...) #+END_SRC Thanks John, this is great! I managed to chop down my citation setup to the following: [[cite:key :pre pre :post post :type type]] with reasonable support for other

Re: [O] Citations, continued

2015-02-02 Thread Richard Lawrence
Hi Rasmus and all, Thanks for your comments! Rasmus ras...@gmx.us writes: ** Backend-agnostic formatting properties *** Selecting specific fields Selecting specific fields to display could be done by appending field names to cite keys after colons, much like Org tags: #+BEGIN_QUOTE [See

Re: [O] org-expiry not compatible with the new drawer syntax

2015-02-02 Thread Samuel Loury
Nicolas Goaziou m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr writes: Samuel Loury konubi...@gmail.com writes: Please find attached the merged patch, as asked for. Applied, thank you. Therefore, the hooks associated to the insertion of a heading will be triggered. Since those hooks may cause the creation of

Re: [O] Citations, continued

2015-02-02 Thread Rasmus
John Kitchin jkitc...@andrew.cmu.edu writes: See cite:Doe1999 for an overview; a more extensive discussion is in cite:Foobar2000 This is ok and supported by ox-bibtex.el. if the pre/post text is really critical somehow, you can do this. [[cite:Doe1999][See::for an overview]]; a more

Re: [O] Citations, continued

2015-02-02 Thread John Kitchin
Thomas S. Dye writes: Aloha Richard, Richard Lawrence richard.lawre...@berkeley.edu writes: My point is not that the link syntax *can't* do enough. Rather, my point is that citations are conceptually distinct from links, and if we are going to adopt an official syntax for them, that

Re: [O] Citations, continued

2015-02-02 Thread Rasmus
Richard Lawrence richard.lawre...@berkeley.edu writes: 2) There are at least several different backend reference database formats (BibTeX, Zotero, etc.) used by Orgsters. Not all such databases use human-readable keys. Org also has a nice internal format for storing reference information:

Re: [O] Citations, continued

2015-02-02 Thread Rasmus
t...@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) writes: You and others are advocating a separate syntax for links and citations, which might indeed be the way to go. I can see it being much nicer than the current state of affairs with Org mode links. The downside is that it will mean learning another set of

Re: [O] save folded state

2015-02-02 Thread Phillip Lord
Worth trying the buffer-invisibility-spec solution. I'd be interested to know if it works or not. Although I wonder whether the commands that you are using really should be obeying visibility context. Phil John Kitchin johnrkitc...@gmail.com writes: yes, I meant programatically. I was having

Re: [O] Include another org-document without settings

2015-02-02 Thread Stefan Nobis
Nicolas Goaziou m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr writes: You can skip the first lines of an INCLUDEd file with :line parameter. You can also only include a section. See manual for details. Thank you for the hint. I used something like #+INCLUDE a.org :lines 3- but still got duplicate keywords (the

Re: [O] Citations, continued

2015-02-02 Thread Rasmus
Richard Lawrence richard.lawre...@berkeley.edu writes: Nicolas Goaziou m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr writes: Richard Lawrence richard.lawre...@berkeley.edu writes: ...so the first step for introducing citation syntax to Org should be compiling a list of all the things such a syntax should

Re: [O] http://orgmode.org/worg/code/org-info-js/ broken

2015-02-02 Thread Marco Wahl
Hello! Svjatoslav Agejenko svjatos...@svjatoslav.eu writes: Button Show Org source on page http://orgmode.org/worg/code/org-info-js/ does not work. You could try the explicit http://orgmode.org/worg/code/org-info-js/index.html instead. The button's action depends on the concrete

Re: [O] org-expiry not compatible with the new drawer syntax

2015-02-02 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Samuel Loury konubi...@gmail.com writes: Please find attached the merged patch, as asked for. Applied, thank you. Therefore, the hooks associated to the insertion of a heading will be triggered. Since those hooks may cause the creation of some metadata. `org-end-of-meta-data' is used

Re: [O] Babel support for Processing-language

2015-02-02 Thread Jarmo Hurri
Jarmo Hurri jarmo.hu...@syk.fi writes: Yep, I am going to start doing this if no-one is working on it yet. I woke up in the middle of the night to realize how amazingly easily this can be done if I drop out the support for PDF export, that is, only leave the option to export as HTML. There

Re: [O] Include another org-document without settings

2015-02-02 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, Stefan Nobis stefan...@snobis.de writes: Maybe it would be a helful extension to give #+INCLUDE an option to just ignore global settings? You can skip the first lines of an INCLUDEd file with :line parameter. You can also only include a section. See manual for details. Regards, --

Re: [O] Citations, continued

2015-02-02 Thread Erik Hetzner
On Mon, 2 Feb 2015 at 10:02:41 PST, Richard Lawrence richard.lawre...@berkeley.edu wrote: Hi all, Here is the citation syntax proposal I have mentioned in a couple of posts now. I have attached it as an Org document for better readability, and also reproduced the text below. Let me know

[O] Bug: ELPA org-plus-contrib package is missing files from the contrib/lisp directory

2015-02-02 Thread Mark A. Flacy
In particular (comparing the org-plus-contrib-20150202 package against today's http://orgmode.org/cgit.cgi/org-mode.git/tree/contrib/lisp): htmlize.el ob-stata.el org-colview-xemacs.el (not that I really care about this one) org-download.el org-ebib.el org-effectiveness.el org-eldoc.el org

Re: [O] Citations, continued

2015-02-02 Thread Richard Lawrence
Hi Erik and all, Erik Hetzner e...@e6h.org writes: I am really, really glad to see people discussing citations in org-mode. But I have some concerns about this proposal. Before extensions are proposed to the pandoc format, I think it is important to understand how flexible the combination

Re: [O] orgmode as a transcription tool?

2015-02-02 Thread Russell Adams
On Mon, Feb 02, 2015 at 11:23:25PM -0600, Bill White wrote: Today I was looking for a tool to ease my transcription of a recording of a half-hour appointment with a doctor. Googling led to https://transcribe.wreally.com/ for the job - it really works well, and it seems like something orgmode

[O] How does one search the archives for bug reports?

2015-02-02 Thread Mark A. Flacy
Greetings, Entering bug results in References: [ bug: 0 ] No document matching your query.. Entering +subject:bug results in References: [ (Too many documents hit. Ignored) ] No document matching your query. So, I'm at a loss on how I can tell if someone has already reported my issue or

[O] orgmode as a transcription tool?

2015-02-02 Thread Bill White
Today I was looking for a tool to ease my transcription of a recording of a half-hour appointment with a doctor. Googling led to https://transcribe.wreally.com/ for the job - it really works well, and it seems like something orgmode should be able to do. The idea is to unite a media player with

Re: [O] Citations, continued

2015-02-02 Thread Vikas Rawal
Org-ref is very functional and has so far been able to deal with much of my needs. So, I just hope we are not trying to fix something that is not broken. The real need in the context of citations is to somehow extend the bibtex/biblatex integration to other export formats (odt/html, most

[O] org-agenda-other-frame

2015-02-02 Thread Tory S. Anderson
I have a key which calls `gnus-other-frame`, a handy function that not only pops up a gnus frame, but also kills the frame when I exit gnus. I'd like something similar with my org agenda; the following function is used to pop it up, but I'm not sure how to kill the frame when I hit close the

Re: [O] Citations, continued

2015-02-02 Thread Matt Price
I have very little of substance to say, but many thanks to Richard for raising the level of discourse to a much more sophisticated one than I was able to achieve in my initial post. I don't feel qualified to comment on whether links or a new citation syntax is appropriate. But I do think that

Re: [O] Citations, continued

2015-02-02 Thread Erik Hetzner
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 at 10:26:05 PST, Richard Lawrence richard.lawre...@berkeley.edu wrote: Hi all, […] As I mentioned in the earlier thread, I think the Pandoc syntax is a good place to start, and I think it would be valuable to have the two syntaxes be compatible. But even Pandoc's

Re: [O] Citations, continued

2015-02-02 Thread Erik Hetzner
Hi Richard, On Mon, 2 Feb 2015 at 20:41:06 PST, Richard Lawrence richard.lawre...@berkeley.edu wrote: Hi Erik and all, Actually, I totally agree. For my own use, I would be completely happy with just using the Pandoc syntax for citations in Org, without any modifications. Great! The

Re: [O] Citations, continued

2015-02-02 Thread Richard Lawrence
t...@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) writes: You and others are advocating a separate syntax for links and citations, which might indeed be the way to go. I can see it being much nicer than the current state of affairs with Org mode links. The downside is that it will mean learning another set of

Re: [O] org-agenda-other-frame

2015-02-02 Thread Kyle Meyer
torys.ander...@gmail.com (Tory S. Anderson) wrote: I have a key which calls `gnus-other-frame`, a handy function that not only pops up a gnus frame, but also kills the frame when I exit gnus. I'd like something similar with my org agenda; the following function is used to pop it up, but I'm

Re: [O] Citations, continued

2015-02-02 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Hi John, John Kitchin jkitc...@andrew.cmu.edu writes: Now, I agree with you that Org mode links are not ideal for citations. Parsing the description is humbug and error-prone, and the descriptions look ungainly in the Org mode document. I never remember to click citation links in the right

Re: [O] Citations, continued

2015-02-02 Thread Rasmus
Hi, Richard Lawrence richard.lawre...@berkeley.edu writes: Hi Rasmus and all, Rasmus ras...@gmx.us writes: Richard Lawrence richard.lawre...@berkeley.edu writes: Within a citation, each reference to an individual work needs to be capable of containing: 1) a database key that

Re: [O] Citations, continued

2015-02-02 Thread Rasmus
Hi, Richard Lawrence richard.lawre...@berkeley.edu writes: Here is the citation syntax proposal I have mentioned in a couple of posts now. Thanks. I think it's a good start, but I find it too far away from Org in some respects. Hence comments follow. ** Backend-agnostic formatting

Re: [O] Bug: org-agenda-diary-entry messes with datetree in org-agenda-diary-file [8.3beta (release_8.3beta-785-gb5d9f4 @ /home/grfz/src/org-mode/lisp/)]

2015-02-02 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, Gregor Zattler g...@gmx.de writes: Dear org-mode developers, adding a date to the datetree in the org-agenda-diary-file produces a mess: - emacs-snapshot -Q -L /home/grfz/src/org-mode/lisp/ -nw –eval (setq org-agenda-diary-file /tmp/diary.org) - Mx org-agenda - a - i - d -

Re: [O] Bug: 8.2.10 fails to insert diary entry [as opposed to 8.3beta (release_8.3beta-785-gb5d9f4 @ /home/grfz/src/org-mode/lisp/)]

2015-02-02 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, Gregor Zattler telegr...@gmx.net writes: Dear org-mode developers, from the agenda I want to add an entry to the diary. When I do emacs24 -Q -nw M-x org-mode M-x org-agenda a i d I get: Diary entry: [d]ay [w]eekly [m]onthly [y]early [a]nniversary [b]lock [c]yclic

Re: [O] Citations, continued

2015-02-02 Thread Richard Lawrence
Hi Rasmus and all, Rasmus ras...@gmx.us writes: Richard Lawrence richard.lawre...@berkeley.edu writes: Within a citation, each reference to an individual work needs to be capable of containing: 1) a database key that references the cited work 2) prefix / pre-text 3) suffix /

Re: [O] Citations, continued

2015-02-02 Thread Richard Lawrence
Hi all, Here is the citation syntax proposal I have mentioned in a couple of posts now. I have attached it as an Org document for better readability, and also reproduced the text below. Let me know what you think! Best, Richard #+TITLE: A Proposal for Org citation syntax #+AUTHOR: Richard

Re: [O] orgmode as a transcription tool?

2015-02-02 Thread Basile (The Flammable Project)
Hello, You should have a look at EMMS. It's suite easy to setup on linux. But if you are using a MS Windows OS, it does requiert more settings. But everything you light ne controlable within Emacs. Regards, Basile Le 3 févr. 2015 06:27, Russell Adams rlad...@adamsinfoserv.com a écrit : On