[Orgmode] Re: DocBook exporter for Org-mode

2009-03-08 Thread Gour
Baoqiu == Baoqiu Cui cbao...@yahoo.com writes: Baoqiu You won't see real difference if we are talking about software Baoqiu manuals or documentation etc. For software manuals reST/Sphinx provides all what I need - check some of the docs here: http://sphinx.pocoo.org/examples.html Baoqiu Maybe

[Orgmode] Re: DocBook exporter for Org-mode

2009-03-08 Thread Gour
Sebastian == Sebastian Rose sebastian_r...@gmx.de writes: Sebastian Frankly speaking, Org-mode provides a lot of expressive power Sebastian if you want it while still keeping document very readable and Sebastian nowadays can produce DocBook output simply by pressing `C-c Sebastian C-e D' ;-) I

[Orgmode] Re: DocBook exporter for Org-mode

2009-03-07 Thread Baoqiu Cui
Gour g...@mail.inet.hr writes: Baoqiu == Baoqiu Cui cbao...@yahoo.com writes: Baoqiu I knew it must be FOP that you did not like. ;-) I had similar Baoqiu experience using FOP, and I (and all other team members) had to Baoqiu find workarounds when hitting problems in FOP (like formatting

[Orgmode] Re: DocBook exporter for Org-mode

2009-03-07 Thread Baoqiu Cui
Dale Smith da...@vxitech.com writes: Sebastian Rose sebastian_r...@gmx.de writes: Gour g...@mail.inet.hr writes: Otoh, number of tags in DocBook is overwhelming and, imgo, way too distracting for most documentation tasks, at least, for *my* use-cases. It is, and that's exactly why the

[Orgmode] Re: DocBook exporter for Org-mode

2009-03-07 Thread Baoqiu Cui
Baoqiu Cui cbao...@yahoo.com writes: Dale Smith da...@vxitech.com writes: Baoqiu Cui cbao...@yahoo.com writes: The only thing that is missing (at least to me) in current Org-mode is the exporter for DocBook format. There is quite a bit of similarity between org and muse formats. I've

[Orgmode] Re: DocBook exporter for Org-mode

2009-03-05 Thread Gour
Baoqiu == Baoqiu Cui cbao...@yahoo.com writes: Baoqiu I knew it must be FOP that you did not like. ;-) I had similar Baoqiu experience using FOP, and I (and all other team members) had to Baoqiu find workarounds when hitting problems in FOP (like formatting Baoqiu footnotes in lists or tables).

Re: [Orgmode] Re: DocBook exporter for Org-mode

2009-03-05 Thread Sebastian Rose
Gour g...@mail.inet.hr writes: Otoh, number of tags in DocBook is overwhelming and, imgo, way too distracting for most documentation tasks, at least, for *my* use-cases. It is, and that's exactly why the DocBook export is such a great thing. You could say a similar thing about (valid) XHTML,

Re: [Orgmode] Re: DocBook exporter for Org-mode

2009-03-05 Thread Sebastian Rose
Gour g...@mail.inet.hr writes: Frankly speaking, reST provides a lot of expressive power if you want it, while still keeping document very readable and no DTDs, schemas, validation, fiddling with catalogs etc. :-D How about: Frankly speaking, Org-mode provides a lot of expressive power if

[Orgmode] Re: DocBook exporter for Org-mode

2009-03-05 Thread Dale Smith
Sebastian Rose sebastian_r...@gmx.de writes: Gour g...@mail.inet.hr writes: Otoh, number of tags in DocBook is overwhelming and, imgo, way too distracting for most documentation tasks, at least, for *my* use-cases. It is, and that's exactly why the DocBook export is such a great thing.

[Orgmode] Re: DocBook exporter for Org-mode

2009-03-04 Thread Baoqiu Cui
Gour g...@mail.inet.hr writes: Sebastian == Sebastian Rose sebastian_r...@gmx.de writes: Sebastian I highly apreciate the support of Docbook and your Sebastian effort. Yet, I think I don't want to publish XHTML through Sebastian Docbook. +1 I gave up on DocBook long ago. It's pain to

Re: [Orgmode] Re: DocBook exporter for Org-mode

2009-03-04 Thread Matthew Lundin
Hi Gour, Gour g...@mail.inet.hr writes: Sebastian == Sebastian Rose sebastian_r...@gmx.de writes: Sebastian I highly apreciate the support of Docbook and your Sebastian effort. Yet, I think I don't want to publish XHTML through Sebastian Docbook. +1 I gave up on DocBook long ago. It's

Re: [Orgmode] Re: DocBook exporter for Org-mode

2009-03-04 Thread Sebastian Rose
Sebastian I highly apreciate the support of Docbook and your Sebastian effort. Yet, I think I don't want to publish XHTML through Sebastian Docbook. Googling brings up quite some interesting formats supported through DocBook. These are some of the formats I found on the first glance: *

[Orgmode] Re: DocBook exporter for Org-mode

2009-03-04 Thread Gour
Baoqiu == Baoqiu Cui cbao...@yahoo.com writes: Baoqiu It is true that many open-source tools around DocBook are still Baoqiu not perfect, but they should be good enough for most of the work Baoqiu of most users. Some commercial tools exist and are better, but Baoqiu they are not free. (I have

[Orgmode] Re: DocBook exporter for Org-mode

2009-03-04 Thread Gour
Matthew == Matthew Lundin m...@imapmail.org writes: Hi Matthew, Matthew Apart from odt output, I'd be curious to know what reST can do Matthew that org-mode markup and export cannot. Footnotes, tables, Matthew hyperlinks, images---I've found org-mode to be a really great Matthew authoring tool

[Orgmode] Re: DocBook exporter for Org-mode

2009-03-04 Thread Gour
Sebastian == Sebastian Rose sebastian_r...@gmx.de writes: Sebastian I just did a quick search only and I think more intensive Sebastian search would reveal many more. Check Pandoc's features: Pandoc is a Haskell library for converting from one markup format to another, and a command-line tool

[Orgmode] Re: DocBook exporter for Org-mode

2009-03-04 Thread Baoqiu Cui
Hi Gour, Gour g...@mail.inet.hr writes: Baoqiu == Baoqiu Cui cbao...@yahoo.com writes: Baoqiu It is true that many open-source tools around DocBook are still Baoqiu not perfect, but they should be good enough for most of the work Baoqiu of most users. Some commercial tools exist and are

[Orgmode] Re: DocBook exporter for Org-mode

2009-03-03 Thread Dale Smith
Baoqiu Cui cbao...@yahoo.com writes: The only thing that is missing (at least to me) in current Org-mode is the exporter for DocBook format. There is quite a bit of similarity between org and muse formats. I've found that I can edit .muse files in org-mode and stiil publish to docbook.

Re: [Orgmode] Re: DocBook exporter for Org-mode

2009-03-03 Thread Sebastian Rose
docbook is great since it's widely used. The output looks good! How could we test it? And could we configure it somehow? Anyway, I'd prefere to export to _one_ XML format from Org-mode and provide xslt stylesheets to translate between different formats. That way we all would concentrate on

Re: [Orgmode] Re: DocBook exporter for Org-mode

2009-03-03 Thread Sebastian Rose
Sebastian Rose sebastian_r...@gmx.de writes: Anyway, I'd prefere to export to _one_ XML format from Org-mode and provide xslt stylesheets to translate between different formats. That way we all would concentrate on one XML exporter (e.g. the XHTML exporter) and could provide xslt stylesheets

[Orgmode] Re: DocBook exporter for Org-mode

2009-03-03 Thread Baoqiu Cui
Dale Smith da...@vxitech.com writes: Baoqiu Cui cbao...@yahoo.com writes: The only thing that is missing (at least to me) in current Org-mode is the exporter for DocBook format. There is quite a bit of similarity between org and muse formats. I've found that I can edit .muse files in

[Orgmode] Re: DocBook exporter for Org-mode

2009-03-03 Thread Paul R
Hi, Sebastian Anyway, I'd prefere to export to _one_ XML format from Sebastian Org-mode and provide xslt stylesheets to translate between Sebastian different formats. Sebastian That way we all would concentrate on one XML exporter (e.g. Sebastian the XHTML exporter) and could provide xslt

[Orgmode] Re: DocBook exporter for Org-mode

2009-03-03 Thread Baoqiu Cui
Sebastian Rose sebastian_r...@gmx.de writes: I think we would find hundreds of xslt stylesheets on the web to transform Docbook to virtually any format. Yes, this is the power and beauty of DocBook. Will we loose the features of htmlize.el? I'm not familiar with the Docbook DTD - I know it

[Orgmode] Re: DocBook exporter for Org-mode

2009-03-03 Thread Baoqiu Cui
Sebastian Rose sebastian_r...@gmx.de writes: I have not tried it, but it seems that syntax highlighting of source code listing can be done. See this page: http://www.sagehill.net/docbookxsl/SyntaxHighlighting.html Does this know about the fonts and colors I use in Emacs? htmlize.el

[Orgmode] Re: DocBook exporter for Org-mode

2009-03-03 Thread Dale Smith
Sebastian Rose sebastian_r...@gmx.de writes: The LaTeX and XHTML export (which, by the way, could be transformed just as good as docbook) work and are widely used. I'm not sure sure. I think docbook is much more content oriented than LaTeX and xhtml, which seem to be more presentation