Re: [O] [POLL] Syntax change: make \[...\] non-inline (+1)

2014-08-04 Thread Rasmus
Hi, Federico Beffa be...@ieee.org writes: The problem with that is that a displayed equation should NOT start a new paragraph (in the generated LaTeX file). This is because if it does then LaTeX puts more (vertical) space than desirable. If this is always the case for you, you can fix this

Re: [O] [POLL] Syntax change: make \[...\] non-inline (+1)

2014-08-03 Thread Federico Beffa
5. Existing documents are very easy to fix. Backwards compatibility is important. It has been broken before, for very good reasons, and even though it was done very carefully, it still caused many problems (still does). So I don't buy the very easy to fix part: it will bite somebody two minutes

Re: [O] [POLL] Syntax change: make \[...\] non-inline (+1)

2014-08-03 Thread Nick Dokos
Federico Beffa be...@ieee.org writes: 5. Existing documents are very easy to fix. Backwards compatibility is important. It has been broken before, for very good reasons, and even though it was done very carefully, it still caused many problems (still does). So I don't buy the very easy to fix

Re: [O] [POLL] Syntax change: make \[...\] non-inline (+1)

2014-08-03 Thread Federico Beffa
It's a bit more complicated than that: one upgrades org at some opportune moment, then three months/years/centuries later, tries to use that presentation that worked perfectly before - boom. If you go back and check all your old presentations each time you upgrade org, you are, I would guess,

Re: [O] [POLL] Syntax change: make \[...\] non-inline (+1)

2014-08-03 Thread Nick Dokos
Federico Beffa be...@ieee.org writes: It's a bit more complicated than that: one upgrades org at some opportune moment, then three months/years/centuries later, tries to use that presentation that worked perfectly before - boom. If you go back and check all your old presentations each time

Re: [O] [POLL] Syntax change: make \[...\] non-inline (+1)

2014-08-02 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, Rasmus ras...@gmx.us writes: It works sensibly in latex-mode. If your text is My displayed \[equation\] is here M-q will make it My displayed \[equation\] is here But My displayed \[equation\] is here Is unaltered by M-q (though it was not obvious to

Re: [O] [POLL] Syntax change: make \[...\] non-inline (+1)

2014-08-01 Thread Federico Beffa
I didn't read the other thread is details, but it seems the most sensible thing to do is alter the org fill function(s). These seems to rely on org-element, though, and I'm guessing that is why a syntax change is necessary, yes? I would be perfectly happy with this behavior. Can't comment on

Re: [O] [POLL] Syntax change: make \[...\] non-inline (+1)

2014-07-31 Thread Rasmus
Federico Beffa be...@ieee.org writes: Who is entitled to vote? If I am then here is my vote in favor for the following reasons: 1. the construct \[...\] has been defined in LaTeX for equations which must stand out and therefore belong on separate lines. It would therefore make sense to

Re: [O] [POLL] Syntax change: make \[...\] non-inline (+1)

2014-07-30 Thread Nick Dokos
Federico Beffa be...@ieee.org writes: Who is entitled to vote? If I am then here is my vote in favor for the following reasons: 1. the construct \[...\] has been defined in LaTeX for equations which must stand out and therefore belong on separate lines. It would therefore make sense to

Re: [O] [POLL] Syntax change: make \[...\] non-inline (+1)

2014-07-30 Thread Federico Beffa
So what exactly is the problem? The problem is that \[...\] is often used for long/complicated equations. If you allow auto-fill to change/modify your carefully written equation, it becomes very difficult to read. Regards, Fede

Re: [O] [POLL] Syntax change: make \[...\] non-inline (-1)

2014-07-28 Thread Nicolas Berthier
You wrote: Hello, As discussed in a recent thread[fn:1], \[...\] constructs are counter-intuitive to some users. At the time being, \[...\] are inline-able. As a consequence, they are can be written in the middle of a line, and filled, much like \(...\). Even though it is also possible to