Bastien b...@gnu.org writes:
| Key | Command | Proposal | Status |
|---+---+--+|
| C-c # | Checkboxes| C-c x| Free |
| C-c ~ | Cooperation
Hi Sébastien,
Sebastien Vauban sva-news-D0wtAvR13HarG/idocf...@public.gmane.org
writes:
Weird. I don't even see the binding in `find-func.el' (in Emacs trunk
from last week):
My bad -- this is a custom keybinding of mine, I added it long ago and
rediscovered it recently. It definitely
Hi Thomas,
t...@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) writes:
Bastien b...@gnu.org writes:
A few comments on the last three:
- is not a punctuation character, I find C-c instead of C-c ' good.
Is it true that is not a punctuation character?
It is a string in both fundamental-mode and org-mode,
Hi Nick,
Nick Dokos ndo...@gmail.com writes:
,
|* Don't bind `C-h' following any prefix character (including `C-c').
| If you don't bind `C-h', it is automatically available as a help
| character for listing the subcommands of the prefix character.
`
That's *very*
Hello Bastien,
Bastien wrote:
(This one I knew. My own recent discovery was C-h : to directly jump
to the definition of a symbol. Pretty useful.)
╭
│ C-h : is undefined
╰
on my side. To what is it bound on your side?
Best regards,
Seb
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Sebastien Vauban
Sebastien Vauban sva-news-D0wtAvR13HarG/idocf...@public.gmane.org
writes:
Bastien wrote:
(This one I knew. My own recent discovery was C-h : to directly jump
to the definition of a symbol. Pretty useful.)
╭
│ C-h : is undefined
╰
on my side. To what is it bound on your
Bastien,
Bastien wrote:
Sebastien Vauban writes:
Bastien wrote:
(This one I knew. My own recent discovery was C-h : to directly jump
to the definition of a symbol. Pretty useful.)
╭
│ C-h : is undefined
╰
on my side. To what is it bound on your side?
find-function
Bastien writes:
So C-c : would call org-edit-src-code and C-c C-: would convert the
region to fixed-width region.
You cannot enter C-: in some terminals because it would require
simultaneous processing of shift and control (these terminals ignore
shift while control is pressed).
Regards,
Hi Samuel,
Samuel Wales samolog...@gmail.com writes:
i meant that c-c c-' and c-c c- are both cumbersome for those users
who press c-c by holding down the control key with the right hand and
then pressing c with the left hand. c-c ' is not cumbersome for those
users.
I understand better
Bastien writes:
What I don't understand is why keeping the right control key between
C-c and C-' is harder than releasing the control key between C-c and
' (or as also proposed.) My experience (which seems the same than
Nick's) is that holding the control key down is easier/faster.
That
Rasmus ras...@gmx.us writes:
For me the following keys need shift or Alt-Gr: ^, , `, !, ?, and
~.
Oh, do you really need the Alt-Gr key for `?' and `!' ?
Does that mean you don't use `C-c !' or that you rarely use it?
Of course, this may have nothing to do with the keybinding itself,
Tim O'Callaghan t...@dspsrv.com writes:
Rasmus ras...@gmx.us writes:
For me the following keys need shift or Alt-Gr: ^, , `, !, ?, and
~.
Oh, do you really need the Alt-Gr key for `?' and `!' ?
Does that mean you don't use `C-c !' or that you rarely use it?
Of course, this may have
Bastien b...@gnu.org writes:
A few comments on the last three:
- is not a punctuation character, I find C-c instead of C-c ' good.
Is it true that is not a punctuation character?
In any event, C-c is likely to pose the same problem as C-c '. For
icicle users, C-c will be shadowed by
Hi Nick,
Nick Dokos ndo...@gmail.com writes:
On a QWERTY keyboard or Dvorak keyboard, requires Shifting, so you
have to switch horses midstream (first Control, then SHift). Not sure
about anybody else, but those are the most problematic key sequences for
me. I would much prefer C-c C-': you
Hi Samuel,
Samuel Wales samolog...@gmail.com writes:
any sequence where one step is on one side and another step is on the
other side is fine unless they are both shifted.
I understand. I don't think any of the proposed rebindings requires
this -- except C-c -- but C-c C-' is better anyway.
Rasmus ras...@gmx.us writes:
For me the following keys need shift or Alt-Gr: ^, , `, !, ?, and
~.
Oh, do you really need the Alt-Gr key for `?' and `!' ?
Does that mean you don't use `C-c !' or that you rarely use it?
Of course, this may have nothing to do with the keybinding itself,
but I'm
Hi Michael,
Michael Brand michael.ch.br...@gmail.com writes:
With these two reasons my suggestion is to just drop the binding for
(org-update-statistics-cookies).
Agreed. If noone objects, I'll remove C-c #.
--
Bastien
On 2/8/14, Bastien b...@gnu.org wrote:
I understand. I don't think any of the proposed rebindings requires
this -- except C-c -- but C-c C-' is better anyway.
hi bastien,
c-c c-' is just as bad. control is a modifier key. try it!
samuel
--
The Kafka Pandemic:
well, almost as bad :). you have to press shift also, but that's a
minor difference :).
Samuel Wales samolog...@gmail.com writes:
c-c c-' is just as bad. control is a modifier key. try it!
I tried it and for me it is better than C-c '
Anyway, let's try to find the best replacement.
--
Bastien
hi bastien,
i meant that c-c c-' and c-c c- are both cumbersome for those users
who press c-c by holding down the control key with the right hand and
then pressing c with the left hand. c-c ' is not cumbersome for those
users.
samuel
--
The Kafka Pandemic: http://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com
Bastien wrote:
The purpose is to be polite with minor modes and to not use
C-c [:punct:] keybindings, as recommended in the Elisp manual.
This is related to the issues reported here:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2014-01/msg00866.html
Thanks for your feedback.
Sebastien Vauban sva-news-D0wtAvR13HarG/idocf...@public.gmane.org
writes:
- use C-c for selecting the whole subtree, which is consistent
with the use of `' as a speedy command for doing the same.
You put the finger on one important note to me: that speed
Hi Bastien
On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Bastien b...@gnu.org wrote:
| C-c # | Checkboxes| C-c x| Free |
I did not know C-c # (org-update-statistics-cookies) because for me
it is easier to remember and therefore I always used this: Go to
cookie and do
Bastien b...@gnu.org writes:
The purpose is to be polite with minor modes and to not use
C-c [:punct:] keybindings, as recommended in the Elisp manual.
This is related to the issues reported here:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2014-01/msg00866.html
Nick Dokos ndo...@gmail.com writes:
Bastien b...@gnu.org writes:
The purpose is to be polite with minor modes and to not use
C-c [:punct:] keybindings, as recommended in the Elisp manual.
This is related to the issues reported here:
i'd like to point out that some of these bindings are problematic on
qwerty in a way that is not obvious to many users.
many people use shifting keys on both sides of the keyboard.
they do not issue the control of control g using left hand. that is a
bad idea. instead, they hold down the right
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