Re: [O] [bug] [new exporter] [markdown] Underline exports as HTML
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 09:58:40PM +0100, Bastien wrote: Rick Frankel r...@rickster.com writes: This should happen in a derived back-end. There are a few Markdown flavours, ox-md.el is only vanilla Markdown. Agreed. Or maybe as a set of filters that people would grab from Worg? It would be good to educate (power-)users about filters, this may be a way to do it. I looked at filters for the slideshow exporters, but my understanding is that they are passed the converted text output, so, in the case of table conversion, the column and row separators would already have been remove by the markdown export function. rick
Re: [O] [bug] [new exporter] [markdown] Underline exports as HTML
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 09:54:22AM -0600, Eric Schulte wrote: Pandoc supports tables in markdown documents, maybe this would be a good syntax to target, as with pandoc markdown may be further exported to either HTML or LaTeX. http://johnmacfarlane.net/pandoc/README.html#tables FWIW, it looks like pandoc also supports Org-mode tables. http://johnmacfarlane.net/pandoc/README.html#pipe-tables There is a fairly standard set of extensions to the markdown syntax called Markdown Extra, based on the extensions made for php: http://michelf.ca/projects/php-markdown/extra/ however, a number of markdown processors support it, including multimarkdown: http://fletcherpenney.net/multimarkdown/ A couple of ruby processing libraries: http://kramdown.rubyforge.org/syntax.html http://maruku.rubyforge.org/maruku.html Kramdown also support org table format. and python: http://pythonhosted.org/Markdown/extensions/extra.html I have used both ruby libraries extensively. It would be nice for the markdown exporter to allow using the standard markdown extensions (perhaps with a switch). rick
Re: [O] [bug] [new exporter] [markdown] Underline exports as HTML
Hello, Rick Frankel r...@rickster.com writes: On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 09:54:22AM -0600, Eric Schulte wrote: Pandoc supports tables in markdown documents, maybe this would be a good syntax to target, as with pandoc markdown may be further exported to either HTML or LaTeX. http://johnmacfarlane.net/pandoc/README.html#tables FWIW, it looks like pandoc also supports Org-mode tables. http://johnmacfarlane.net/pandoc/README.html#pipe-tables There is a fairly standard set of extensions to the markdown syntax called Markdown Extra, based on the extensions made for php: http://michelf.ca/projects/php-markdown/extra/ however, a number of markdown processors support it, including multimarkdown: http://fletcherpenney.net/multimarkdown/ A couple of ruby processing libraries: http://kramdown.rubyforge.org/syntax.html http://maruku.rubyforge.org/maruku.html Kramdown also support org table format. and python: http://pythonhosted.org/Markdown/extensions/extra.html I have used both ruby libraries extensively. It would be nice for the markdown exporter to allow using the standard markdown extensions (perhaps with a switch). This should happen in a derived back-end. There are a few Markdown flavours, ox-md.el is only vanilla Markdown. Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou
Re: [O] [bug] [new exporter] [markdown] Underline exports as HTML
On Mar 15, 2013, at 1:36 PM, Nicolas Goaziou n.goaz...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Rick Frankel r...@rickster.com writes: On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 09:54:22AM -0600, Eric Schulte wrote: I have used both ruby libraries extensively. It would be nice for the markdown exporter to allow using the standard markdown extensions (perhaps with a switch). This should happen in a derived back-end. There are a few Markdown flavours, ox-md.el is only vanilla Markdown. Agreed.
Re: [O] [bug] [new exporter] [markdown] Underline exports as HTML
Rick Frankel r...@rickster.com writes: This should happen in a derived back-end. There are a few Markdown flavours, ox-md.el is only vanilla Markdown. Agreed. Or maybe as a set of filters that people would grab from Worg? It would be good to educate (power-)users about filters, this may be a way to do it. -- Bastien
Re: [O] [bug] [new exporter] [markdown] Underline exports as HTML
Hello, Bastien b...@altern.org writes: Rick Frankel r...@rickster.com writes: On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 12:06:55AM +0100, Bastien wrote: Hi Terry, tftor...@tftorrey.com (T.F. Torrey) writes: I'm not experienced with markdown, but this doesn't look right to me. AFAIK there is no syntax for underlining in Markdown, so underlined text in Org will be exported as plain text in Markdown. I would argue that underlining is a form of emphasis, so the leading and trailing underscores should be passed through verbatim to markdown (which, in markdown syntax is an emphasized span). Yes, I see your point -- it's now the case. AFAIU, one Markdown feature is to accept raw HTML as part of the syntax. So, what's wrong in writing in HTML code anything that is not directly supported by Markdown syntax (like tables)? Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou
Re: [O] [bug] [new exporter] [markdown] Underline exports as HTML
Hi Nicolas, Nicolas Goaziou n.goaz...@gmail.com writes: AFAIU, one Markdown feature is to accept raw HTML as part of the syntax. So, what's wrong in writing in HTML code anything that is not directly supported by Markdown syntax (like tables)? Nothing wrong /per se/ but, I modified `org-html-underline' so that it uses a specific class underline instead of hardcoding the style. (There is no style=... parameter left in the HTML export.) span class=underlinetext/span does not mean anything for Markdown. We could have org-md-underline to export to utext/u but this tag is deprecated in xhtml and html5. As for using span style=text-decoration: underline;text/span I think it goes against Markdown's philosophy to keep things light. So on the overall, I find using `org-md-verbatim' a quite good trade-off. -- Bastien
Re: [O] [bug] [new exporter] [markdown] Underline exports as HTML
Nicolas Goaziou n.goaz...@gmail.com writes: Hello, Bastien b...@altern.org writes: Rick Frankel r...@rickster.com writes: On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 12:06:55AM +0100, Bastien wrote: Hi Terry, tftor...@tftorrey.com (T.F. Torrey) writes: I'm not experienced with markdown, but this doesn't look right to me. AFAIK there is no syntax for underlining in Markdown, so underlined text in Org will be exported as plain text in Markdown. I would argue that underlining is a form of emphasis, so the leading and trailing underscores should be passed through verbatim to markdown (which, in markdown syntax is an emphasized span). Yes, I see your point -- it's now the case. AFAIU, one Markdown feature is to accept raw HTML as part of the syntax. So, what's wrong in writing in HTML code anything that is not directly supported by Markdown syntax (like tables)? Pandoc supports tables in markdown documents, maybe this would be a good syntax to target, as with pandoc markdown may be further exported to either HTML or LaTeX. http://johnmacfarlane.net/pandoc/README.html#tables FWIW, it looks like pandoc also supports Org-mode tables. http://johnmacfarlane.net/pandoc/README.html#pipe-tables Just throwing out ideas, I don't personally use the markdown export. Best, -- Eric Schulte http://cs.unm.edu/~eschulte
Re: [O] [bug] [new exporter] [markdown] Underline exports as HTML
Rick Frankel r...@rickster.com writes: On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 12:06:55AM +0100, Bastien wrote: Hi Terry, tftor...@tftorrey.com (T.F. Torrey) writes: I'm not experienced with markdown, but this doesn't look right to me. AFAIK there is no syntax for underlining in Markdown, so underlined text in Org will be exported as plain text in Markdown. I would argue that underlining is a form of emphasis, so the leading and trailing underscores should be passed through verbatim to markdown (which, in markdown syntax is an emphasized span). Yes, I see your point -- it's now the case. Thanks! -- Bastien
Re: [O] [bug] [new exporter] [markdown] Underline exports as HTML
Hi Terry, tftor...@tftorrey.com (T.F. Torrey) writes: I'm not experienced with markdown, but this doesn't look right to me. I fixed this in master. AFAIK there is no syntax for underlining in Markdown, so underlined text in Org will be exported as plain text in Markdown. See http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3003476/get-underlined-text-with-markdown Thanks for reporting this, -- Bastien
Re: [O] [bug] [new exporter] [markdown] Underline exports as HTML
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 12:06:55AM +0100, Bastien wrote: Hi Terry, tftor...@tftorrey.com (T.F. Torrey) writes: I'm not experienced with markdown, but this doesn't look right to me. AFAIK there is no syntax for underlining in Markdown, so underlined text in Org will be exported as plain text in Markdown. I would argue that underlining is a form of emphasis, so the leading and trailing underscores should be passed through verbatim to markdown (which, in markdown syntax is an emphasized span). rick
