Re: [O] Emacs and tablet devices
T Helms maxco...@gmail.com writes: On 07/28/2011 08:44 AM, Jason F. McBrayer wrote: On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 13:59:18 +0200, Piter_ wrote: It may be not the best place to ask, but: How useful is emacs on tablet devices. I have been thinking about emacs and freerunner. But I have no clue how the keybindings work with it. Another possible device you might consider is the N850/900/950 series. I'm fairly certain there is a native emacs build for those that requires no special jiggery-pokery. I have an n900. Emacs and org work wonderfully for a small device. I'm using 23.2 compiled by Sander Boer on this list. The keyboard is easily remapped. The only downsides are the screen size speed. A task that takes 4 sec. to run on my laptop takes over 30 on the phone (iterating large tables and the like). Capture clocking make it very useful in the handheld, so useful that I just picked a 2nd device to have when my current one dies. I can't speak to tablets or the freerunner but I would think the lack of a real keyboard would be difficult to overcome. +1 I've used Emacs + org mode on the Nokia n800 and n810 internet tablets. The n800 has no keyboard and I found it incredibly frustrating to use, either because a reasonably sized virtual keyboard took too much of the screen, leaving too little for Emacs, or the keyboard was too small to type confidently. The n810, on the other hand, is a joy to use. The keyboard is just about right and is good for Emacs with a few key mappings (xmodmap). Also, the speed keys for outline heading movements and cycling that org provides are quite useful on small systems. So I would recommend a system with a real keyboard. I would be very curious to hear from anybody that has real experience of using Emacs (+ org mode) on the Ben Nanonote as it's quite an attractive little system. -- : Eric S Fraga (GnuPG: 0xC89193D8FFFCF67D) in Emacs 24.0.50.1 : using Org-mode version 7.7 (release_7.7.175.g8478)
Re: [O] Emacs and tablet devices
On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 13:59:18 +0200, Piter_ wrote: It may be not the best place to ask, but: How useful is emacs on tablet devices. I have been thinking about emacs and freerunner. But I have no clue how the keybindings work with it. So my second guess is nanonote which has a keyboard (but i would prefer freerunner as it has less moving parts). Any experiense or tips. I don't have any experience with either of those devices, but I do have a little emacs-on-tablet experience. I have run Emacs in an SSH session from Android, using the ConnectBot ssh client, and the Hacker's Keyboard input method. I'd say the user experience is adequate but not ideal -- it depends on sticky modifier keys rather than the usual chording. I believe that if you ran (e.g.) a Debian chroot alongside Android, you could run a local emacs in a local terminal or under Xvnc. In my opinion, this will work, but it doesn't really leverage any tablet-specific features. Another possible device you might consider is the N850/900/950 series. I'm fairly certain there is a native emacs build for those that requires no special jiggery-pokery. -- +---+ | Jason F. McBrayer jmcb...@carcosa.net | | If someone conquers a thousand times a thousand others in | | battle, and someone else conquers himself, the latter one | | is the greatest of all conquerors. --- The Dhammapada |
Re: [O] Emacs and tablet devices
On 07/28/2011 08:44 AM, Jason F. McBrayer wrote: On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 13:59:18 +0200, Piter_ wrote: It may be not the best place to ask, but: How useful is emacs on tablet devices. I have been thinking about emacs and freerunner. But I have no clue how the keybindings work with it. Another possible device you might consider is the N850/900/950 series. I'm fairly certain there is a native emacs build for those that requires no special jiggery-pokery. I have an n900. Emacs and org work wonderfully for a small device. I'm using 23.2 compiled by Sander Boer on this list. The keyboard is easily remapped. The only downsides are the screen size speed. A task that takes 4 sec. to run on my laptop takes over 30 on the phone (iterating large tables and the like). Capture clocking make it very useful in the handheld, so useful that I just picked a 2nd device to have when my current one dies. I can't speak to tablets or the freerunner but I would think the lack of a real keyboard would be difficult to overcome.
