Re: [O] LaTeX export, problem with quotes

2013-12-26 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello,

t...@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) writes:

 I'm having a problem with exporting quotes.  I have the #+OPTIONS ':t.

 This input in the Org mode file:

 [l]ater walls ...

 produces this in the tex file (open quote wrong, close quote OK):
 [l]ater walls ...''

 I'm expecting this in the tex file:
 ''[l]ater walls ...''

I fixed it in maint. Thank you for reporting it.

Nevertheless, there will always be failing cases in smart quote
detection (see `org-export-smart-quotes-regexps').


Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou



Re: [O] LaTeX export, problem with quotes

2013-12-26 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Aloha Nicolas,

Nicolas Goaziou n.goaz...@gmail.com writes:

 Hello,

 t...@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) writes:

 I'm having a problem with exporting quotes.  I have the #+OPTIONS ':t.

 This input in the Org mode file:

 [l]ater walls ...

 produces this in the tex file (open quote wrong, close quote OK):
 [l]ater walls ...''

 I'm expecting this in the tex file:
 ''[l]ater walls ...''

 I fixed it in maint. Thank you for reporting it.

I'm getting the same incorrect result as before with:

Org-mode version 8.2.4 (release_8.2.4-391-g954168 @ 
/Users/dk/.emacs.d/src/org-mode/lisp/)


 Nevertheless, there will always be failing cases in smart quote
 detection (see `org-export-smart-quotes-regexps').

I can't comprehend the regular expression(s) there, unfortunately. If it
is the case that there will always be failing cases, and my goal is to
create a stable piece of reproducible research, would you recommend an
approach that sets org-entities-user appropriately at the file-local
level, or something else?

All the best,
Tom

-- 
Thomas S. Dye
http://www.tsdye.com



Re: [O] LaTeX export, problem with quotes

2013-12-26 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
t...@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) writes:

 I'm getting the same incorrect result as before with:

 Org-mode version 8.2.4 (release_8.2.4-391-g954168 @
 /Users/dk/.emacs.d/src/org-mode/lisp/)

Did you reload Org? I cannot reproduce the problem anymore.

 Nevertheless, there will always be failing cases in smart quote
 detection (see `org-export-smart-quotes-regexps').

 I can't comprehend the regular expression(s) there, unfortunately. If it
 is the case that there will always be failing cases, and my goal is to
 create a stable piece of reproducible research, would you recommend an
 approach that sets org-entities-user appropriately at the file-local
 level, or something else?

I mean that choosing between an opening quote, a closing quote, or
nothing is done with a regexp. It cannot cover all cases, and some
tricky situations will fool smart quote mechanism.

If that happens, and if `org-export-smart-quotes-regexps' cannot be
improved to handle the situation consistently, you will have to specify
LaTeX quote code manually (e.g. with an export snippet, or an entity).

I cannot see the link with reproducible research, though.


Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou



Re: [O] LaTeX export, problem with quotes

2013-12-26 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Nicolas Goaziou n.goaz...@gmail.com writes:

 t...@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) writes:

 I'm getting the same incorrect result as before with:

 Org-mode version 8.2.4 (release_8.2.4-391-g954168 @
 /Users/dk/.emacs.d/src/org-mode/lisp/)

 Did you reload Org? I cannot reproduce the problem anymore.

Hmm, later and {l}ater both work for me, but [l]ater and (l)ater
both fail.  I'm exporting asynchronously.

 I mean that choosing between an opening quote, a closing quote, or
 nothing is done with a regexp. It cannot cover all cases, and some
 tricky situations will fool smart quote mechanism.

 If that happens, and if `org-export-smart-quotes-regexps' cannot be
 improved to handle the situation consistently, you will have to specify
 LaTeX quote code manually (e.g. with an export snippet, or an entity).

 I cannot see the link with reproducible research, though.

I'm perhaps too wary of regressions here.

All the best,
Tom

-- 
T.S. Dye  Colleagues, Archaeologists
735 Bishop St, Suite 315, Honolulu, HI 96813
Tel: 808-529-0866, Fax: 808-529-0884
http://www.tsdye.com



Re: [O] LaTeX export, problem with quotes

2013-12-26 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Aloha Nicolas,

Ah, I see what's happening now. I've set up asynchronous export to use
the Org mode that ships with Emacs, rather than the one from the git
repo. Of course, that doesn't track your changes.

In this case, where many potential users of my reproducible research
document aren't using the latest Org mode, a file-specific
org-entities-user entry looks like the best solution.

Thanks for your patience as I puzzled this out online.

All the best,
Tom

Nicolas Goaziou n.goaz...@gmail.com writes:

 t...@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) writes:

 I'm getting the same incorrect result as before with:

 Org-mode version 8.2.4 (release_8.2.4-391-g954168 @
 /Users/dk/.emacs.d/src/org-mode/lisp/)

 Did you reload Org? I cannot reproduce the problem anymore.

 Nevertheless, there will always be failing cases in smart quote
 detection (see `org-export-smart-quotes-regexps').

 I can't comprehend the regular expression(s) there, unfortunately. If it
 is the case that there will always be failing cases, and my goal is to
 create a stable piece of reproducible research, would you recommend an
 approach that sets org-entities-user appropriately at the file-local
 level, or something else?

 I mean that choosing between an opening quote, a closing quote, or
 nothing is done with a regexp. It cannot cover all cases, and some
 tricky situations will fool smart quote mechanism.

 If that happens, and if `org-export-smart-quotes-regexps' cannot be
 improved to handle the situation consistently, you will have to specify
 LaTeX quote code manually (e.g. with an export snippet, or an entity).

 I cannot see the link with reproducible research, though.


 Regards,

-- 
T.S. Dye  Colleagues, Archaeologists
735 Bishop St, Suite 315, Honolulu, HI 96813
Tel: 808-529-0866, Fax: 808-529-0884
http://www.tsdye.com