Re: [O] M-RET does not work as described in the manual
Hi Kevin, I clarified the explanations about M-RET in the manual, I hope things are easier to understand now. Thanks, -- Bastien
Re: [O] M-RET does not work as described in the manual
Kevin Van Horn wrote: Thank you for your help -- I have been beating my head against this for quite some time. Putting the cursor at the beginning of the line does in fact work. I'm going to argue that there is still a problem here, though. Here's what I read at http://orgmode.org/manual/Structure-editing.html: If the command is used at the beginning of a headline, the new headline is created before the current line. IMHO the definition of a headline is clear in the manual 2.2 Headlines Headlines define the structure of an outline tree. The headlines in Org *start* with one or more stars, on the left margin Regards, Charlie Millar --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [O] M-RET does not work as described in the manual
Hi Kevin, Kevin Van Horn kevin.vanh...@themodellers.com writes: The attached PNG files illustrate the problem, for two different cases: one without any notes under the heading, and one with notes under the heading. In the screenshots, I see that the point is not really at the start of the line when you hit M-RET, but at the start of the heading's content. You need to put the point at the start of the line. Or am I missing something? -- Bastien
Re: [O] M-RET does not work as described in the manual
I also see this with GNU Emacs 24.2.1, same org-mode version, still Windows 7, but a different machine. Kevin S. Van Horn, Ph.D. | Principal Engineer D: 801.290.3823 | Salt Lake City Office (Mountain Time) -Original Message- From: Kevin Van Horn Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 12:16 PM To: Bastien Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Subject: RE: M-RET does not work as described in the manual Org-mode version 8.2.6 (8.2.6-22-gb11b4a-elpa). Emacs: GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.1.7601) of 2013-03-17 on MARVIN Kevin S. Van Horn, Ph.D. | Principal Engineer D: 801.290.3823 | Salt Lake City Office (Mountain Time) -Original Message- From: Bastien Guerry [mailto:bastiengue...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Bastien Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 11:01 AM To: Kevin Van Horn Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Subject: Re: M-RET does not work as described in the manual Hi Kevin, Kevin Van Horn kevin.vanh...@themodellers.com writes: Thank you for your response, but... Using the most recent stable version of emacs I still see the bug. What gives M-x org-version RET? When I override the built-in version of org and install version 20140519 of org using the package manager, I still see the bug. I am working under Windows 7, and my emacs version is 24.3.1. I'm still unable to reproduce this, sorry. -- Bastien
Re: [O] M-RET does not work as described in the manual
Hi Kevin, Kevin Van Horn kevin.vanh...@themodellers.com writes: I also see this with GNU Emacs 24.2.1, same org-mode version, still Windows 7, but a different machine. I tested again carefully, with Org-mode release_8.2.6-22-gb11b4a (the exact same version as yours) and could not reproduce the problem. This version has one problem: not inserting the right level headline when converting a non-headline line into a headline, when point is at the beginning of a line. But when point is at the beginning of a headline, the inserted headline goes above it, not after it. If you can, please make a small screencast demonstrating the issue together with M-x org-version RET in it. Thanks, -- St Thomas
Re: [O] M-RET does not work as described in the manual
Thank you for your response, but... Using the most recent stable version of emacs I still see the bug. When I override the built-in version of org and install version 20140519 of org using the package manager, I still see the bug. I am working under Windows 7, and my emacs version is 24.3.1. Kevin S. Van Horn, Ph.D. | Principal Engineer D: 801.290.3823 | Salt Lake City Office (Mountain Time) -Original Message- From: Bastien Guerry [mailto:bastiengue...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Bastien Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 7:46 PM To: Kevin Van Horn Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Subject: Re: M-RET does not work as described in the manual Hi Kevin, There used to be such a problem but it has been fixed. When you report a bug, please first check it's not here anymore with the latest stable version, or at least provide the version string of Org. Thanks, -- Bastien
Re: [O] M-RET does not work as described in the manual
Hi Kevin, Kevin Van Horn kevin.vanh...@themodellers.com writes: Thank you for your response, but... Using the most recent stable version of emacs I still see the bug. What gives M-x org-version RET? When I override the built-in version of org and install version 20140519 of org using the package manager, I still see the bug. I am working under Windows 7, and my emacs version is 24.3.1. I'm still unable to reproduce this, sorry. -- Bastien
Re: [O] M-RET does not work as described in the manual
Org-mode version 8.2.6 (8.2.6-22-gb11b4a-elpa). Emacs: GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.1.7601) of 2013-03-17 on MARVIN Kevin S. Van Horn, Ph.D. | Principal Engineer D: 801.290.3823 | Salt Lake City Office (Mountain Time) -Original Message- From: Bastien Guerry [mailto:bastiengue...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Bastien Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 11:01 AM To: Kevin Van Horn Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Subject: Re: M-RET does not work as described in the manual Hi Kevin, Kevin Van Horn kevin.vanh...@themodellers.com writes: Thank you for your response, but... Using the most recent stable version of emacs I still see the bug. What gives M-x org-version RET? When I override the built-in version of org and install version 20140519 of org using the package manager, I still see the bug. I am working under Windows 7, and my emacs version is 24.3.1. I'm still unable to reproduce this, sorry. -- Bastien
Re: [O] M-RET does not work as described in the manual
Hi Kevin, Kevin Van Horn kevin.vanh...@themodellers.com writes: Org-mode version 8.2.6 (8.2.6-22-gb11b4a-elpa). Okay. Hopefully someone else can reproduce this, but I cannot, sorry. -- Bastien
Re: [O] M-RET does not work as described in the manual
Kevin Van Horn kevin.vanh...@themodellers.com writes: Section 2.5 of the online manual states that If [M-RET] is used at the beginning of a headline the new headline is created before the current line. [...] That is, I get a blank headline AFTER the current headline, and it becomes the new parent of the original headline's children. As far as I can tell, that leaves me with no easy way of creating a new heading as the first subheading of an existing heading. are you really at the beginning of the headline? I have no problems with this feature in org 8.2.6. Which is your org-version?
Re: [O] M-RET does not work as described in the manual
Hi Kevin, There used to be such a problem but it has been fixed. When you report a bug, please first check it's not here anymore with the latest stable version, or at least provide the version string of Org. Thanks, -- Bastien