Re: [O] ODT export: Issues with `org-export-footnote-first-reference-p'

2015-02-13 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, Christian Moe m...@christianmoe.com writes: Would it make sense to be able to link to a footnote label? Rationale: 1. If a footnote definition is already meaningfully labeled, a dedicated target is redundant. 2. Since you can link to named tables, source blocks etc., users might

Re: [O] ODT export: Issues with `org-export-footnote-first-reference-p'

2015-02-13 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Vaidheeswaran C vaidheeswaran.chinnar...@gmail.com writes: Allow me to revisit this thread in a week or 10 days so that I can 1. take a look at ODF standard. 2. dig in to LibreOffice discussion lists to see whether such instances have ever surfaced (and how they were dealt with). Until

Re: [O] ODT export: Issues with `org-export-footnote-first-reference-p'

2015-02-12 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Vaidheeswaran vaidheeswaran.chinnar...@gmail.com writes: What changes need to be made in ox.el and/or ox-odt.el so that the snippet I shared produces the right XML acceptable for LibreOffice. text1 [fn:1] text2 [fn:2] [fn:1] footdef1[fn:2] [fn:2] footdef2 For purposes of ODT backend,

Re: [O] ODT export: Issues with `org-export-footnote-first-reference-p'

2015-02-12 Thread Vaidheeswaran C
Allow me to revisit this thread in a week or 10 days so that I can 1. take a look at ODF standard. 2. dig in to LibreOffice discussion lists to see whether such instances have ever surfaced (and how they were dealt with). Until then, please keep the patch in waiting. On Friday 13

Re: [O] ODT export: Issues with `org-export-footnote-first-reference-p'

2015-02-12 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Aloha Vaidheeswaran, Thanks very much for the detailed response and the link to the book. That's an interesting example I won't soon forget. The forward reference in the footnote is unusual. In this case it appears to be standing in for the lack of an index entry for either trichiliocosm or

Re: [O] ODT export: Issues with `org-export-footnote-first-reference-p'

2015-02-11 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Vaidheeswaran C vaidheeswaran.chinnar...@gmail.com writes: I still think that the snippet I shared should have worked. Clearly `org-export-footnote-first-reference-p' is misbehaving. It does, e.g., when exporting to LaTeX. This is an odt limitation. So, I disagree,

Re: [O] ODT export: Issues with `org-export-footnote-first-reference-p'

2015-02-11 Thread Vaidheeswaran
On Thursday 12 February 2015 02:42 AM, Nicolas Goaziou wrote: It does, e.g., when exporting to LaTeX. This is an odt limitation. So, I disagree, `org-export-footnote-first-reference-p' is correct here. Let me put my question this way: What changes need to be made in ox.el and/or ox-odt.el

Re: [O] ODT export: Issues with `org-export-footnote-first-reference-p'

2015-02-11 Thread Vaidheeswaran C
On Thursday 12 February 2015 12:49 PM, Thomas S. Dye wrote: Aloha Vaidheeswaran, This is an odd example that I don't recall having seen in any publication. I don't doubt examples might exist, but don't remember having seen one. Can you point me to a real-world example of a footnote referring

Re: [O] ODT export: Issues with `org-export-footnote-first-reference-p'

2015-02-11 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Aloha Vaidheeswaran, This is an odd example that I don't recall having seen in any publication. I don't doubt examples might exist, but don't remember having seen one. Can you point me to a real-world example of a footnote referring to a subsequent footnote that I might reference either on-line

Re: [O] ODT export: Issues with `org-export-footnote-first-reference-p'

2015-02-10 Thread Vaidheeswaran C
On Tuesday 10 February 2015 06:26 PM, Christian Moe wrote: Thanks for this. You have [fn:1] footdef1[fn:2] [fn:2] footdef2 What do you expect to see in ODT? Presumably not a footnote in a footnote, since LibreOffice doesn't allow you to place one. An ODT cross-reference to the

Re: [O] ODT export: Issues with `org-export-footnote-first-reference-p'

2015-02-10 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, Vaidheeswaran C vaidheeswaran.chinnar...@gmail.com writes: That said, it is difficult for me to conceive of a footnote that is referenced solely by other footnotes. i.e., it is reasonable to assume that a given footnote is either not referenced at all or is referenced atleast once in

Re: [O] ODT export: Issues with `org-export-footnote-first-reference-p'

2015-02-10 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, Christian Moe m...@christianmoe.com writes: An ODT cross-reference to the footnote? That makes sense, but should that be achieved by footnoting inside a footnote, or is the appropriate thing to do to use a dedicated target and link? [fn:1] footdef1, see also [[thatotherfootnote]].

Re: [O] ODT export: Issues with `org-export-footnote-first-reference-p'

2015-02-10 Thread Vaidheeswaran
On Wednesday 11 February 2015 11:32 AM, Vaidheeswaran wrote: This should be fixed. Thank you. Not yet. See attached files. Operator error. Sorry.

Re: [O] ODT export: Issues with `org-export-footnote-first-reference-p'

2015-02-10 Thread Vaidheeswaran C
On Wednesday 11 February 2015 02:59 AM, Nicolas Goaziou wrote: Hello, Vaidheeswaran Cvaidheeswaran.chinnar...@gmail.com writes: That said, it is difficult for me to conceive of a footnote that is referenced solely by other footnotes. i.e., it is reasonable to assume that a given footnote is

Re: [O] ODT export: Issues with `org-export-footnote-first-reference-p'

2015-02-10 Thread Vaidheeswaran
On Wednesday 11 February 2015 02:58 AM, Nicolas Goaziou wrote: Hello, Christian Moem...@christianmoe.com writes: An ODT cross-reference to the footnote? That makes sense, but should that be achieved by footnoting inside a footnote, or is the appropriate thing to do to use a dedicated target

Re: [O] ODT export: Issues with `org-export-footnote-first-reference-p'

2015-02-10 Thread Christian Moe
Hi, Thanks for this. You have [fn:1] footdef1[fn:2] [fn:2] footdef2 What do you expect to see in ODT? Presumably not a footnote in a footnote, since LibreOffice doesn't allow you to place one. An ODT cross-reference to the footnote? That makes sense, but should that be achieved by