Re: [O] gnus org and tags
On Saturday, 15 Oct 2016 at 13:14, Uwe Brauer wrote: "Eric" == Eric S Fraga writes: >> Tag search etc. in org makes finding the notes relatively painless. > > How do you search, starting where? Typically, using the agenda tags search: C-c a m and, if that fails, the more general search: C-c a s where "C-c a" has been bound to org-agenda. Less frequently, org-sparse-tree (C-c /) within a specific org file. >> As a bonus, the "mt" template is to allow me to get to INBOX 0 by making >> sure I don't leave emails lying around unread or ticked. If they need >> further processing, an appropriate TODO task is created which links back >> to the email. This task is scheduled for immediate action by default >> but obviously easily changed during the capture, very often by >> unscheduling but adding a deadline, for instance. > > For the imap backend? Yes, sorry, very much for IMAP. Probably possible with other backends but I only use IMAP because of wanting to access my emails from various devices. HTH, eric -- : Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 25.2.50.1, Org release_8.3.6-1184-g29830f
Re: [O] gnus org and tags
>>> "Eric" == Eric S Fraga writes:
> On Thursday, 13 Oct 2016 at 16:02, Nick Dokos wrote:
> [...]
>> I have a single notes.org file (not an agenda file), where I do exactly
what
>> Eric described and I have defined keys to get to it fast: no more "where
did I
> As do I. I guess this is a key part of this use case: it must be easy
> to find those notes. My (abridged) capture template looks like this:
> #+begin_src emacs-lisp
> (setq org-capture-templates
> '(
> ("m" "Mail options")
> ("mt" "mailtodo"
>entry (file+datetree "~/s/notes/tasks.org")
>"* TODO %^{Task} : %:subject %^G\nSCHEDULED: %t\n- From ::
%:from\n- Subject :: %:subject\n- Email :: %a\n\n%?" :kill-buffer t)
> ("mn" "mailnote"
>entry (file+headline "~/s/notes/notes.org" "general notes and
tasks")
>"* %^{Title} : %:subject %^G\n- From :: %:from\n- Subject ::
%:subject\n- Email :: %a\n\n%?\n\n%U")
> ))
> #+end_src
Ok that is relatively cool.
> Tag search etc. in org makes finding the notes relatively painless.
How do you search, starting where?
> As a bonus, the "mt" template is to allow me to get to INBOX 0 by making
> sure I don't leave emails lying around unread or ticked. If they need
> further processing, an appropriate TODO task is created which links back
> to the email. This task is scheduled for immediate action by default
> but obviously easily changed during the capture, very often by
> unscheduling but adding a deadline, for instance.
For the imap backend?
Re: [O] gnus org and tags
On Thursday, 13 Oct 2016 at 16:02, Nick Dokos wrote:
[...]
> I have a single notes.org file (not an agenda file), where I do exactly what
> Eric described and I have defined keys to get to it fast: no more "where did I
As do I. I guess this is a key part of this use case: it must be easy
to find those notes. My (abridged) capture template looks like this:
#+begin_src emacs-lisp
(setq org-capture-templates
'(
("m" "Mail options")
("mt" "mailtodo"
entry (file+datetree "~/s/notes/tasks.org")
"* TODO %^{Task} : %:subject %^G\nSCHEDULED: %t\n- From :: %:from\n-
Subject :: %:subject\n- Email :: %a\n\n%?" :kill-buffer t)
("mn" "mailnote"
entry (file+headline "~/s/notes/notes.org" "general notes and tasks")
"* %^{Title} : %:subject %^G\n- From :: %:from\n- Subject ::
%:subject\n- Email :: %a\n\n%?\n\n%U")
))
#+end_src
Tag search etc. in org makes finding the notes relatively painless.
As a bonus, the "mt" template is to allow me to get to INBOX 0 by making
sure I don't leave emails lying around unread or ticked. If they need
further processing, an appropriate TODO task is created which links back
to the email. This task is scheduled for immediate action by default
but obviously easily changed during the capture, very often by
unscheduling but adding a deadline, for instance.
--
: Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 25.2.50.1, Org release_8.3.6-1184-g29830f
Re: [O] gnus org and tags
Uwe Brauer writes: "Eric" == Eric S Fraga writes: > >> On Wednesday, 12 Oct 2016 at 08:42, Uwe Brauer wrote: >>> Hi >>> >>> I would like to add to certain messages (which I read via gnus and the >>> imap protocol) tags so that searching is simplified. Is there a way to >>> do that using the org tags engine? Gnorb would be a candidate but that >>> feature is listed in the TODO list. > >> Might not be what you want but I turn this inside out and use org >> capture to create notes, with tags, that link back to the email >> message. I then use org to search etc. with C-c C-o to get back to the >> email. > > Yes I sometimes to that as well but then I tend to forgot where I put > that information etc. So I really prefer the other way around. > > > I have a single notes.org file (not an agenda file), where I do exactly what Eric described and I have defined keys to get to it fast: no more "where did I put that scrap of information" - well, not true: if I were perfectly disciplined that would be the case, but since I am not, I sometimes have to go hunt down that scrap; but the process is painful enough that once I find it, it goes into notes.org, no ifs, ands or buts ;-) -- Nick
Re: [O] gnus org and tags
> Uwe Brauer writes: > Yup, I haven't gotten to it, mostly because message tagging is one part > of a much larger new feature set that I haven't had time to implement > yet. That, and most of my hacking time has been taken up by a new > version of BBDB I'm working on -- still part of the larger Gnorb > project. > My idea was to use the Gnus registry to record Org tags, which means > that searching would have to be done via the registry, not the usual > nnir search interface. Would that be acceptable to you, or would you > rather somehow store the tags in IMAP itself? Definitely it would, I tried to play around with the registry myself but right now had a problem. I am really looking forward to see such a feature. Thanks Uwe
Re: [O] gnus org and tags
>>> "Eric" == Eric S Fraga writes: > On Wednesday, 12 Oct 2016 at 08:42, Uwe Brauer wrote: >> Hi >> >> I would like to add to certain messages (which I read via gnus and the >> imap protocol) tags so that searching is simplified. Is there a way to >> do that using the org tags engine? Gnorb would be a candidate but that >> feature is listed in the TODO list. > Might not be what you want but I turn this inside out and use org > capture to create notes, with tags, that link back to the email > message. I then use org to search etc. with C-c C-o to get back to the > email. Yes I sometimes to that as well but then I tend to forgot where I put that information etc. So I really prefer the other way around.
Re: [O] gnus org and tags
On Wednesday, 12 Oct 2016 at 08:42, Uwe Brauer wrote: > Hi > > I would like to add to certain messages (which I read via gnus and the > imap protocol) tags so that searching is simplified. Is there a way to > do that using the org tags engine? Gnorb would be a candidate but that > feature is listed in the TODO list. Might not be what you want but I turn this inside out and use org capture to create notes, with tags, that link back to the email message. I then use org to search etc. with C-c C-o to get back to the email. -- : Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 25.1.1, Org release_8.3.6-1207-g91e263
Re: [O] gnus org and tags
Uwe Brauer writes: > Hi > > I would like to add to certain messages (which I read via gnus and the > imap protocol) tags so that searching is simplified. Is there a way to > do that using the org tags engine? Gnorb would be a candidate but that > feature is listed in the TODO list. Yup, I haven't gotten to it, mostly because message tagging is one part of a much larger new feature set that I haven't had time to implement yet. That, and most of my hacking time has been taken up by a new version of BBDB I'm working on -- still part of the larger Gnorb project. My idea was to use the Gnus registry to record Org tags, which means that searching would have to be done via the registry, not the usual nnir search interface. Would that be acceptable to you, or would you rather somehow store the tags in IMAP itself? Eric
