Re: [Orgmode] full production use of org-mode: time to say thanks again!

2010-10-14 Thread Carsten Dominik
I have now applied the first of the two patches, but not the second.   
Thanks Nicolas!


- Carsten

On Oct 11, 2010, at 8:34 AM, Nicolas Goaziou wrote:


Hello,

Could you try the following patch and tell me if it fixes your issue?

As a side note (to maintainers), the second patch isn't really needed,
but I thought, while I was at it, that it would make sense
(`org-inlinetask-min-level' doesn't need to be a boolean).

Regards,

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0001-Fix-indentation-of-text-after-an-inline-task.patch0002- 
inlinetask-Make-org-inlinetask-min-level-an-integer-.patch






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Re: [Orgmode] full production use of org-mode: time to say thanks again!

2010-10-14 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Oct 11, 2010, at 10:04 AM, Carsten Dominik wrote:


Hi,

On Oct 11, 2010, at 8:34 AM, Nicolas Goaziou wrote:


Hello,

Could you try the following patch and tell me if it fixes your issue?


A quick test shows that things seem to work well in inlinetasks  
which are properly ended with an END line.


There is also a dirty form of inline tasks which allows
only a planning line (SCHEDULED etc) and one or several
drawers directly after the task line, and then no
END line is necessary.  But I guess it is fair
to force the END line if you do want to have
proper indentation.

Eric Fraga, have you tested the patch yet?  Please do
so when you wake up from your two-week sleep, so that
we can check this in.

Thanks Nicolas!

I am seeing now two things that should be added:

 - M-RET after inline tasks should ignore the inline task
   and make a new entry with normal indentation



This I have now implemented


 - Maybe I should treat inline tasks with proper END
   statement as a drawer and fold it?  Comments?


This not yet - is more complicated

- Carsten






As a side note (to maintainers), the second patch isn't really  
needed,

but I thought, while I was at it, that it would make sense
(`org-inlinetask-min-level' doesn't need to be a boolean).


Hmmm, what happens is a user has customized this variable and it has  
a value nil.  I guess then your patch will break things?


So I think we need to keep testing the value in the code, but it is  
OK to change the customize type.




Regards,

-- Nicolas

0001-Fix-indentation-of-text-after-an-inline-task.patch0002- 
inlinetask-Make-org-inlinetask-min-level-an-integer-.patch


- Carsten





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Re: [Orgmode] full production use of org-mode: time to say thanks again!

2010-10-12 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Oct 11, 2010, at 9:33 PM, Jeff Horn wrote:


Christian and Nick,

I suppose the advantage of inline tasks is that they appear even when
the document is folded?


The main advantage is that you can note a task without forcing changes  
to the document structure.


- Carsten


So far I've been moving/refiling todos into a
top-level Tasks header in each document to get this sort of behavior.
But this sounds like less overhead, so it is a plus in that regard.

Jeff

On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Christian Moe  
m...@christianmoe.com wrote:

I see. Thanks.

Christian

On 10/9/10 7:15 PM, Nick Dokos wrote:


Christian Moem...@christianmoe.com  wrote:


What's an inline todo?

Just curious,
Christian



See the commentary in lisp/org-inlinetask.el.

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Re: [Orgmode] full production use of org-mode: time to say thanks again!

2010-10-12 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 15:33:37 -0400, Jeff Horn jrhorn...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Christian and Nick,
 
 I suppose the advantage of inline tasks is that they appear even when
 the document is folded? So far I've been moving/refiling todos into a
 top-level Tasks header in each document to get this sort of behavior.
 But this sounds like less overhead, so it is a plus in that regard.

The main advantage for me is simply one of not having to interrupt my
flow of writing.
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Re: [Orgmode] full production use of org-mode: time to say thanks again!

2010-10-11 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello,

Could you try the following patch and tell me if it fixes your issue?

As a side note (to maintainers), the second patch isn't really needed,
but I thought, while I was at it, that it would make sense
(`org-inlinetask-min-level' doesn't need to be a boolean).

Regards,

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From ab4b86b56654887be564d0519dd9e4407d9fc732 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Nicolas Goaziou n.goaz...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 08:10:31 +0200
Subject: [PATCH 1/2] Fix indentation of text after an inline task.

* org.el (org-indent-line-function): Conditionnaly indent text inside
  and outside indented tasks. Also skip any list above point.
* org-inlinetask.el (org-inlinetask-in-task-p): new function.
---
 lisp/org-inlinetask.el |   16 
 lisp/org.el|   21 ++---
 2 files changed, 26 insertions(+), 11 deletions(-)

diff --git a/lisp/org-inlinetask.el b/lisp/org-inlinetask.el
index fce515d..e18dce8 100644
--- a/lisp/org-inlinetask.el
+++ b/lisp/org-inlinetask.el
@@ -129,6 +129,22 @@ If prefix arg NO-STATE is set, ignore 
`org-inlinetask-defaut-state'.
   (end-of-line -1))
 (define-key org-mode-map \C-c\C-xt 'org-inlinetask-insert-task)
 
+(defun org-inlinetask-in-task-p ()
+  Return true if point is inside an inline task.
+  (save-excursion
+(let* ((nstars (if org-odd-levels-only
+  (1- (* 2 (or org-inlinetask-min-level 200)))
+(or org-inlinetask-min-level 200)))
+  (stars-re (concat ^\\(?:\\*\\{
+(format %d (- nstars 1))
+,\\}\\)[ \t]+))
+  (task-beg-re (concat stars-re \\(?:.*\\)))
+  (task-end-re (concat stars-re \\(?:END\\|end\\
+  (beginning-of-line)
+  (or (looking-at task-beg-re)
+ (and (re-search-forward ^\\*+[ \t]+ nil t)
+  (progn (beginning-of-line) (looking-at task-end-re)))
+
 (defvar htmlp)  ; dynamically scoped into the next function
 (defvar latexp) ; dynamically scoped into the next function
 (defun org-inlinetask-export-handler ()
diff --git a/lisp/org.el b/lisp/org.el
index a80286f..d9e26e9 100644
--- a/lisp/org.el
+++ b/lisp/org.el
@@ -18601,6 +18601,8 @@ which make use of the date at the cursor.
 (itemp (org-at-item-p))
 (case-fold-search t)
 (org-drawer-regexp (or org-drawer-regexp \000))
+(inline-task-p (and (featurep 'org-inlinetask)
+(org-inlinetask-in-task-p)))
 column bpos bcol tpos tcol bullet btype bullet-type)
 ;; Find the previous relevant line
 (beginning-of-line 1)
@@ -18656,7 +18658,14 @@ which make use of the date at the cursor.
  ;; what to do.
  (t
   (beginning-of-line 0)
-  (while (and (not (bobp)) (looking-at [ \t]*[\n:#|])
+  (while (and (not (bobp))
+ ;; skip comments, verbatim, empty lines, tables,
+ ;; inline tasks
+ (or (looking-at [ \t]*[\n:#|])
+ (and (org-in-item-p) (goto-char (org-list-top-point)))
+ (and (not inline-task-p)
+  (featurep 'org-inlinetask)
+  (org-inlinetask-in-task-p)))
  (not (looking-at [ \t]*:END:))
  (not (looking-at org-drawer-regexp)))
(beginning-of-line 0))
@@ -18675,16 +18684,6 @@ which make use of the date at the cursor.
((looking-at \\([ \t]*\\):END:)
(goto-char (match-end 1))
(setq column (current-column)))
-   ;; There was a list that since ended: indent relatively to
-   ;; current heading.
-   ((org-in-item-p)
-   (outline-previous-heading)
-   (if (and org-adapt-indentation
-(looking-at \\*+[ \t]+))
-   (progn
- (goto-char (match-end 0))
- (setq column (current-column)))
- (setq column 0)))
;; Else, nothing noticeable found: get indentation and go on.
(t (setq column (org-get-indentation))
 (goto-char pos)
-- 
1.7.3.1

From 89caeaa34fb2e76626954226e51f29590ecaba91 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Nicolas Goaziou n.goaz...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 08:25:53 +0200
Subject: [PATCH 2/2] inlinetask: Make `org-inlinetask-min-level' an integer 
instead of a boolean.

* org-footnote.el (org-footnote-normalize): Remove unnecessary check
  for org-inlinetask-min-level.
* org-inlinetask.el (org-inlinetask-min-level): Variable is now of
  type integer.
* org-inlinetask.el (org-inlinetask-in-task-p): Remove unnecessary check
  for org-inlinetask-min-level.
* org-inlinetask.el (org-inlinetask-export-handler): Remove unnecessary check
  for org-inlinetask-min-level.
* org-inlinetask.el (org-inlinetask-fontify): Remove unnecessary check
  for org-inlinetask-min-level.
---
 lisp/org-footnote.el   |1 -
 lisp/org-inlinetask.el |   14 +++---
 lisp/org.el|1 -
 3 files changed, 7 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)

diff --git 

Re: [Orgmode] full production use of org-mode: time to say thanks again!

2010-10-11 Thread Carsten Dominik

Hi,

On Oct 11, 2010, at 8:34 AM, Nicolas Goaziou wrote:


Hello,

Could you try the following patch and tell me if it fixes your issue?


A quick test shows that things seem to work well in inlinetasks which  
are properly ended with an END line.


There is also a dirty form of inline tasks which allows
only a planning line (SCHEDULED etc) and one or several
drawers directly after the task line, and then no
END line is necessary.  But I guess it is fair
to force the END line if you do want to have
proper indentation.

Eric Fraga, have you tested the patch yet?  Please do
so when you wake up from your two-week sleep, so that
we can check this in.

Thanks Nicolas!

I am seeing now two things that should be added:

  - M-RET after inline tasks should ignore the inline task
and make a new entry with normal indentation
  - Maybe I should treat inline tasks with proper END
statement as a drawer and fold it?  Comments?




As a side note (to maintainers), the second patch isn't really needed,
but I thought, while I was at it, that it would make sense
(`org-inlinetask-min-level' doesn't need to be a boolean).


Hmmm, what happens is a user has customized this variable and it has a  
value nil.  I guess then your patch will break things?


So I think we need to keep testing the value in the code, but it is OK  
to change the customize type.




Regards,

-- Nicolas

0001-Fix-indentation-of-text-after-an-inline-task.patch0002- 
inlinetask-Make-org-inlinetask-min-level-an-integer-.patch


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Re: [Orgmode] full production use of org-mode: time to say thanks again!

2010-10-11 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Oct 10, 2010, at 7:56 PM, Eric S Fraga wrote:

On Sat, 9 Oct 2010 17:26:43 +0200, Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

On Oct 9, 2010, at 12:46 PM, Eric S Fraga wrote:


[...]


As an aside, I also had to prepare a new set of lecture slides for a
course I teach.  I used org, of course, with beamer support.  Again,
everything worked well.  What was particularly nice this time was  
that
this particular course requires showing Octave code and the  
outputs of
such code.  Babel, in combination with the listings latex package,  
is

an ideal tool for this!  My slides look (in my obviously biased
opinion) incredibly professional.


Can you publish the slides?  I'd like to take a look!
Maybe even with the source?


I can't as such (some copyright material) but I can give an
illustration of the type of slide (attached) that babel now allows me
to do every so easily!  From a pedagogical point of view, having code
which runs and automatically creates the content to be presented is
fantastic.  No errors in transcription etc.


Thanks, this looks really good.  I am wondering if I can recruit you  
to add such an example including the required babel setup to your  
BEAMER tutorial?


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Re: [Orgmode] full production use of org-mode: time to say thanks again!

2010-10-11 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 10:01:53 +0200, Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 
 
 On Oct 10, 2010, at 7:56 PM, Eric S Fraga wrote:

[...]

 
  I can't as such (some copyright material) but I can give an
  illustration of the type of slide (attached) that babel now allows me
  to do every so easily!  From a pedagogical point of view, having code
  which runs and automatically creates the content to be presented is
  fantastic.  No errors in transcription etc.
 
 Thanks, this looks really good.  I am wondering if I can recruit you
 to add such an example including the required babel setup to your
 BEAMER tutorial?
 
 - Carsten
 
 
 

I'd be happy to!  On my todo list now ;-)
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Re: [Orgmode] full production use of org-mode: time to say thanks again!

2010-10-11 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
 Carsten Dominik writes:

 As a side note (to maintainers), the second patch isn't really
 needed, but I thought, while I was at it, that it would make sense
 (`org-inlinetask-min-level' doesn't need to be a boolean).

 Hmmm, what happens is a user has customized this variable and it has
 a value nil. I guess then your patch will break things?

Probably. I wasn't sure a nil value would have any meaning and thus
that anyone would set it so.

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Re: [Orgmode] full production use of org-mode: time to say thanks again!

2010-10-11 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
 Carsten Dominik writes:

 As a side note (to maintainers), the second patch isn't really
 needed, but I thought, while I was at it, that it would make sense
 (`org-inlinetask-min-level' doesn't need to be a boolean).

 Hmmm, what happens is a user has customized this variable and it has
 a value nil. I guess then your patch will break things?

Probably. I wasn't sure a nil value would have any meaning and thus
that anyone would set it so.

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Re: [Orgmode] full production use of org-mode: time to say thanks again!

2010-10-11 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 10:04:15 +0200, Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 On Oct 11, 2010, at 8:34 AM, Nicolas Goaziou wrote:
 
  Hello,
 
  Could you try the following patch and tell me if it fixes your issue?
 
 A quick test shows that things seem to work well in inlinetasks which
 are properly ended with an END line.
 
 There is also a dirty form of inline tasks which allows
 only a planning line (SCHEDULED etc) and one or several
 drawers directly after the task line, and then no
 END line is necessary.  But I guess it is fair
 to force the END line if you do want to have
 proper indentation.

That requirement would seem to make sense.

 Eric Fraga, have you tested the patch yet?  Please do
 so when you wake up from your two-week sleep, so that
 we can check this in.

I have tested it and it seems to work fine.  I've not seen anything
major break but I haven't done a thorough test.

 I am seeing now two things that should be added:
 
   - M-RET after inline tasks should ignore the inline task
 and make a new entry with normal indentation

Yes, that would be nice especially as it takes quite a few TABs to get
back to a proper level and sometimes I cannot tell what that level
should have been...  Actually, it might be nice if the TAB immediately
after a M-RET would go back to the next previously used level in the
hierarchy?  Although this might be tricky...

   - Maybe I should treat inline tasks with proper END
 statement as a drawer and fold it?  Comments?

Could be useful but it's not critical for me: I don't tend to put too
much text between the start and end of inline tasks so it's not too
intrusive.

Thanks to both you and Nicolas,
eric
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indenting after inline task (was Re: [Orgmode] full production use of org-mode: time to say thanks again!)

2010-10-11 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 08:34:53 +0200, Nicolas Goaziou n.goaz...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 Could you try the following patch and tell me if it fixes your issue?

Works perfectly.  Thanks!
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Re: [Orgmode] full production use of org-mode: time to say thanks again!

2010-10-11 Thread Jeff Horn
Christian and Nick,

I suppose the advantage of inline tasks is that they appear even when
the document is folded? So far I've been moving/refiling todos into a
top-level Tasks header in each document to get this sort of behavior.
But this sounds like less overhead, so it is a plus in that regard.

Jeff

On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Christian Moe m...@christianmoe.com wrote:
 I see. Thanks.

 Christian

 On 10/9/10 7:15 PM, Nick Dokos wrote:

 Christian Moem...@christianmoe.com  wrote:

 What's an inline todo?

 Just curious,
 Christian


 See the commentary in lisp/org-inlinetask.el.

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Re: [Orgmode] full production use of org-mode: time to say thanks again!

2010-10-10 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Sat, 09 Oct 2010 19:00:29 +0200, Nicolas Goaziou n.goaz...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
  Carsten Dominik writes:
 
  On Oct 9, 2010, at 12:46 PM, Eric S Fraga wrote:
 
  Footnotes: [1] If I have one niggle to report it is that indenting
  text after an in-line todo doesn't seem to work properly: it
  indents any subsequent paragraphs much too far, lining up with the
  headline text for the in-line todo. This seems conceptually wrong
  to me. Not a big deal, mind you.
 
  This is clearly a bug. Nicolas, could you be persuaded to have a
  look at that? You have worked on the indentation code reently in
  connection with the plain lists.
 
 I can have a look at it, but I would need an example to work on as I
 never use inline todo. I don't want to sound too lazy, but could
 Eric provide a minimal example to get me started ?
 
 Regards,
 
 -- Nicolas

Gladly.  Attached is a very small example, self-documented!
# -*- mode: org; mode: auto-fill; -*-
#+TITLE: test.org
#+AUTHOR:Eric S Fraga
#+EMAIL: e.fr...@ucl.ac.uk
#+DATE:  2010.10.10 19:00:34
#+LANGUAGE:  en
#+OPTIONS:   H:3 num:t toc:t \n:nil @:t ::t |:t ^:t -:t f:t *:t TeX:t LaTeX:t 
skip:nil d:nil tags:not-in-toc
#+INFOJS_OPT: view:nil toc:nil ltoc:t mouse:underline buttons:0 
path:http://orgmode.org/org-info.js
#+EXPORT_SELECT_TAGS: export
#+EXPORT_EXCUDE_TAGS: noexport
#+LINK_UP:
#+LINK_HOME:
#+DRAWERS: HIDDEN hidden extra details
#+STARTUP: lognotedone lognoteclock-out

#+ STARTUP: indent

* Introduction
The introduction, most obviously introduces
material in an introductory manner.
* TODO Remember to expand this section
* END

  The following text is indented to line
  up with the in-line todo heading which
  it should not be.  The whole point of an
  in-line todo is that it is not meant to
  disrupt the flow of the rest of the
  document.
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Re: [Orgmode] full production use of org-mode: time to say thanks again!

2010-10-09 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Oct 9, 2010, at 12:46 PM, Eric S Fraga wrote:


Hi,

I have spent the last 2 months (or more) working on a serious project
proposal which required the production of a 30+ page document,
including tables, figures, footnotes and cross-references.  The
preparation required working with 20+ people and managing a large
number of tasks.  I used org for the whole process and for the
creation of the actual document.

I just want to say *thanks* to all (Carsten, of course, but also all
the others that have contributed to org and babel) as it made the
whole process as painless as something like this can be!

I used the following features:

- outlining, obviously!  very necessary as the document had a
pre-defined structure imposed by an external party.
- todo items, including in-line todos [1].
- babel for figures and some in-line calculations
- exporting, including to HTML (for conversion to Word via OOo) for
allowing colleagues to edit text and to PDF for the actual delivery
of the document (with very strict page formatting requirements).
- version control, obviously, but not part of org, of course

Everything worked (except for maybe the texi2dvi blip in the past few
days) and did so incredibly smoothly!  Org didn't get in the way and I
could really concentrate on the content instead of the formatting
etc.  Brilliant!

As an aside, I also had to prepare a new set of lecture slides for a
course I teach.  I used org, of course, with beamer support.  Again,
everything worked well.  What was particularly nice this time was that
this particular course requires showing Octave code and the outputs of
such code.  Babel, in combination with the listings latex package, is
an ideal tool for this!  My slides look (in my obviously biased
opinion) incredibly professional.


Can you publish the slides?  I'd like to take a look!
Maybe even with the source?

Cheers

- Carsten



So, thanks all!

eric

PS - I now need to sleep for the next month or two... ;-)

Footnotes:
[1]  If I have one niggle to report it is that indenting text after an
   in-line todo doesn't seem to work properly: it indents any
   subsequent paragraphs much too far, lining up with the headline
   text for the in-line todo.  This seems conceptually wrong to me.
   Not a big deal, mind you.


This is clearly a bug.  Nicolas, could you be persuaded to have a look  
at that?  You have worked on the indentation code reently in  
connection with the plain lists.


If not, let me know and I will take a look at that.

- Carsten


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Re: [Orgmode] full production use of org-mode: time to say thanks again!

2010-10-09 Thread Christian Moe

What's an inline todo?

Just curious,
Christian

Eric S. Fraga wrote:

- todo items, including in-line todos [1].

(...)

Footnotes:
[1]  If I have one niggle to report it is that indenting text after an
  in-line todo doesn't seem to work properly: it indents any
  subsequent paragraphs much too far, lining up with the headline
  text for the in-line todo.  This seems conceptually wrong to me.
  Not a big deal, mind you.


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Re: [Orgmode] full production use of org-mode: time to say thanks again!

2010-10-09 Thread Nick Dokos
Christian Moe m...@christianmoe.com wrote:

 What's an inline todo?
 
 Just curious,
 Christian
 

See the commentary in lisp/org-inlinetask.el.

Nick

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Re: [Orgmode] full production use of org-mode: time to say thanks again!

2010-10-09 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello,

 Carsten Dominik writes:

 On Oct 9, 2010, at 12:46 PM, Eric S Fraga wrote:

 Footnotes: [1] If I have one niggle to report it is that indenting
 text after an in-line todo doesn't seem to work properly: it
 indents any subsequent paragraphs much too far, lining up with the
 headline text for the in-line todo. This seems conceptually wrong
 to me. Not a big deal, mind you.

 This is clearly a bug. Nicolas, could you be persuaded to have a
 look at that? You have worked on the indentation code reently in
 connection with the plain lists.

I can have a look at it, but I would need an example to work on as I
never use inline todo. I don't want to sound too lazy, but could
Eric provide a minimal example to get me started ?

Regards,

-- Nicolas

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