[Emc-developers] New Modbus driver framework for Mesa UARTS

2023-04-18 Thread andy pugh
I have just pushed a feature branch (andypugh/mesa_modbus) to the LinuxCNC github. It uses the Mesa FPGA UARTs (specifically pktUART) to offer real-time modbus connection directly to a Mesa card. Docs are here:

Re: [Emc-developers] Mesa 7I80HDT needed

2023-04-18 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 at 14:12, Chris Helgesen wrote: > Hello, > > Apologies for bothering the developer's list with this. I have a Hurco KM3 > I did a LinuxCNC-based retrofit on during the Jurassic period. I need to > replace the host PC, and I've reached the end of the road for my Mesa PCI >

Re: [Emc-developers] probe_basic -

2023-04-18 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 at 09:52, Steffen Möller wrote: > Hello, > on > https://www.facebook.com/groups/1887325441579936/posts/3264707197175080/ > someone reported difficulties to get probe_basic to run because the > auto-triggered attempt to install dependencies via pip had failed. Is there > an

Re: [Emc-developers] Translation query on the forum

2023-04-17 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 at 10:13, Hans Unzner wrote: > > Am 17.04.23 um 10:05 schrieb andy pugh: > > https://forum.linuxcnc.org/nativecam/48821-translation#269180 > > > > Do we still have documents that instruct people to use poedit? > > > Yes we have (in 4 files).

[Emc-developers] Translation query on the forum

2023-04-17 Thread andy pugh
https://forum.linuxcnc.org/nativecam/48821-translation#269180 Do we still have documents that instruct people to use poedit? -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics." — George Fitch,

Re: [Emc-developers] April 2023 LinuxCNC meeting at Tormach headquarters

2023-04-12 Thread andy pugh
On Fri, 7 Apr 2023 at 16:24, Jon Elson wrote: > Does anyone have agenda items for the meeting? There is an offer of a Remora presentation: https://forum.linuxcnc.org/29-forum-announcements/48753-april-2023-linuxcnc-meeting-at-tormach-headquarters#267650 -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle

Re: [Emc-developers] Documentation question

2023-04-09 Thread andy pugh
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 at 08:41, Hans Unzner wrote: > You meant "docs/src/man/man3",right? Ok, I added that and it seemed to work, but then deleting the old files led to problems. There are 559 instances of the string "hm2_pktuart_read.3hm2" in the .po files. Rather than try to fix that, I

[Emc-developers] Documentation question

2023-04-07 Thread andy pugh
I have made some changes to hm2_pktuart and I feel the urge to document them. Currently this feature is (barely) documented in groff/troff in the files: docs/man/man3/hm2_pktuart_read.3hm2 docs/man/man3/hm2_pktuart_send.3hm2 docs/man/man3/hm2_pktuart_setup.3hm2 However there are now severa more

Re: [Emc-developers] April 2023 LinuxCNC meeting at Tormach headquarters

2023-04-07 Thread andy pugh
On Fri, 7 Apr 2023 at 16:24, Jon Elson wrote: > Does anyone have agenda items for the meeting? Not really an agenda item, but if anyone has any loose Modbus devices that respond to commands 3, 4, 6, 15 or 16 then I would like to test the Mesa UART Modbus driver with them. (The relay board

Re: [Emc-developers] [Emc-users] April 2023 LinuxCNC meeting at Tormach headquarters

2023-04-07 Thread andy pugh
On Fri, 7 Apr 2023 at 17:30, John Allwine wrote: > I could bring a Pocket NC if anyone is interested in poking around on it: > https://www.pentamachine.com/pocket-nc I would love to see one, I have always rather liked the design. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium

Re: [Emc-developers] Halcompile: .comp filename and module name match

2023-04-07 Thread andy pugh
On Fri, 7 Apr 2023 at 14:46, Hans Unzner wrote: > When it's only a warning - can't you just ignore the warning if this > comp is only used on your machine? Well, there is also the fact that if the names don't match then the component won't load. The warning is to address a common and hard to

Re: [Emc-developers] Halcompile: .comp filename and module name match

2023-04-07 Thread andy pugh
On Fri, 7 Apr 2023 at 14:09, andy pugh wrote: > > Does anyone see a horrible problem with adding a command-line argument > that allows the output file name to be changed to match the component name > in this scenario? > I might also look at the option of removing the restricti

[Emc-developers] Halcompile: .comp filename and module name match

2023-04-07 Thread andy pugh
I remember some time ago that there was a change made to warn that the filename of the component and the module name did not match: https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/commit/90acb1567d7b984a98c943cca7cc84e9acceec99 I am now in a position where I _want_ to have the names different, as I have

Re: [Emc-developers] GitHub build fails since last week

2023-03-31 Thread andy pugh
On Fri, 31 Mar 2023 at 17:27, Hans Unzner wrote: > > This already appeared in 2018, so not sure if this is related: > > https://www.forum.linuxcnc.org/10-advanced-configuration/34976-compile-problems The last post in that thread looks relevant.

Re: [Emc-developers] HAL shared memory and the mis-use of hal_malloc

2023-03-27 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 at 14:06, Steffen Möller wrote: > Would this be something that we could address together with > https://github.com/features/copilot? I don't know if it would help, being trained on other code might not help here, I doubt that what we do is at all common. An example, see

Re: [Emc-developers] HAL shared memory and the mis-use of hal_malloc

2023-03-27 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 at 04:53, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: > > I'd prefer if we used hal memory for things that need to be in hal, and > used non-hal memory for everything else. > > But I don't intend to clean up all the violations of this preference, so > my opinion doesn't count for much. I

[Emc-developers] HAL shared memory and the mis-use of hal_malloc

2023-03-26 Thread andy pugh
I am working on a HAL driver at the moment, and have started to be concerned about mis-use(?) of hal_malloc. Looking at the hostmot2 code the data structures are carefully split into HAL pins and other data. The HAL pins parts are hal_malloc-ed and the data parts are rtapi_kmalloc-ed (which is

Re: [Emc-developers] April 2023 LinuxCNC meeting at Tormach headquarters

2023-03-22 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 at 19:19, Chris Radek wrote: > On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 12:21:17PM -0500, Jon Elson wrote: > > Will people who plan to attend (weekend of April 22-23) > > please confirm? > > I also plan to attend! I _think_ I bought a plane ticket, though it's not 100% clear. -- atp "A

Re: [Emc-developers] April 2023 LinuxCNC meeting at Tormach headquarters

2023-03-20 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 20 Mar 2023 at 17:23, Jon Elson wrote: > Will people who plan to attend (weekend of April 22-23) > please confirm? I am coming round to the idea. Where exactly is "Tormach headquarters" ? There seems to be two addresses on the web site. And where are folk staying? -- atp "A

Re: [Emc-developers] [Emc-users] April 2023 LinuxCNC meeting at Tormach headquarters

2023-03-17 Thread andy pugh
On Fri, 17 Mar 2023 at 11:41, Steffen Möller wrote: > > I just checked the travel time and am a bit surprised about this being > minimum 15 hours one-way, more like a median 21 h. That's much longer than I would have guessed. Where is that from? It looks like 9-12 hours from London. I have a

Re: [Emc-developers] For 2.10: Suggesting chatGPT checks of our documentation

2023-03-16 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 16 Mar 2023 at 12:10, Steffen Möller wrote: > Hello, > > I am admittedly still impressed of the linguistic skills of chatGPT > It's worth considering what ChatGPT does, which is to a large extent just choosing the most likely word to continue the sentence. In many ways this is just a

Re: [Emc-developers] still stuck from the pid switch. And bug report

2023-03-10 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 at 05:45, gene heskett wrote: That to me needs fixed, if F2 has been cycled by the error, all homing > operations should be canceled until restarting from scratch by another > click on the home_all button. Can you create an issue on the bug tracker for that one? -- atp "A

Re: [Emc-developers] spindle speed output not working?

2023-03-05 Thread andy pugh
On Sun, 5 Mar 2023 at 23:45, Jon Elson wrote: > loadrt hal_ppmc extradac = 0x00 > > this caused a parameter extradac not found error from hal. > > The correct syntax that works is : > > loadrt hal_ppmc extradac=0x00 (note - no spaces between > extradac and the 0x00). Is this a known issue in

Re: [Emc-developers] Support for Xenomai 4 on ARM

2023-03-02 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 2 Mar 2023 at 11:19, Rod Webster wrote: > This seems so simple, I thought I might have missed something. We would also need to alter the build system to build the xenomai helper module for ARM. We build the rtai verson for amd64 (package linuxnc-uspace-rtai.)

Re: [Emc-developers] latest master broke

2023-02-28 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 at 15:19, gene heskett wrote: > > (Hopefully you have kept a backup of the previously working config?) > > No, unforch, I haven't had a backup since those 2 2t seagates died a > week apart It doesn't have to be a full system backup. Too late now, but before hacking on your

Re: [Emc-developers] latest master broke

2023-02-28 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 at 14:18, gene heskett wrote: > I've edited so much now, I may as well start with a fresh 3 axis config > & spend the next 5 years restoring what I had one little tidbit at a > time. I had nothing to do with this change. But your existing config ought to work just as it

Re: [Emc-developers] latest master broke

2023-02-28 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 at 12:44, gene heskett wrote: > > Investigating with a fresh config printout, I find a whole list of new > > pins on the pid's. Pins for autotune. And it is ignoring the Pgain, > > Dgain and Igain settings etc in the ini file. That is a surprise, as I believe that the

Re: [Emc-developers] Hijacked account? (Paul Kessler)

2023-02-23 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 23 Feb 2023 at 10:19, andy pugh wrote: > > I have had a query from Paul Kessler's email address Looking at the email headers, I don't see the address that replies are coming from in there, so it is more than just a spoofed "from" field, I think. -- atp "A mo

[Emc-developers] Hijacked account? (Paul Kessler)

2023-02-23 Thread andy pugh
I have had a query from Paul Kessler's email address (who has posted about 4 times to the list in about as many years) asking me if I can help with an Amazon gift card. The reply that came back to my query was _not_ from a matching email account (it was from petterre...@gmail.com) This is ringing

Re: [Emc-developers] Bug#1030304: Licensing & copyright issues

2023-02-02 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 2 Feb 2023 at 14:57, wrote: > > I want to "Reply All" to this, but I've decided to restrain myself (it's > hard...) until I can get some "community input". What do you all think? The thread referred to on debian.legal is probably this.

Re: [Emc-developers] Can the Clang fixes be added to the 2.9 branch?

2023-01-31 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 31 Jan 2023 at 18:52, Alec Ari via Emc-developers wrote: > > Currently, the fixes for Clang are only in master, can these be merged into > 2.9? I think that would probably be a good idea. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial

Re: [Emc-developers] adding to linuxcnc/scripts

2023-01-27 Thread andy pugh
On Fri, 27 Jan 2023 at 05:35, Chris Morley wrote: > > is there any other file that needs to be changed to have this file installed > too? linuxcnc/debian/linuxcnc.install.in (based on searching the code for an included script) -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment

Re: [Emc-developers] spindle speed output not working?

2023-01-15 Thread andy pugh
On Sun, 15 Jan 2023 at 18:07, Jon Elson wrote: > I think he is using show hal config to see the state of the > hal pins. Is he using the "watch" tab? The other tab does not update. Which LinuxCNC version? -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for

Re: [Emc-developers] Show used tools for loaded NC program?

2023-01-13 Thread andy pugh
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 at 21:32, Nicklas SB Karlsson wrote: > > Anyone else think it would be useful with possibility to show which > tools a loaded NC file use? The Axis interface has G-code properties that show the file extents, distance etc. It feels like it ought to be possible to track the

Re: [Emc-developers] CI environment, which libraries?

2023-01-10 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 at 00:17, Steffen Möller wrote: > And then the thought that you may possibly want to test on something that we > can control ourselves? That might have been better, but Jeff pointed out this morning that rl_ding() isn't in one of the readline wrappers, and that

[Emc-developers] CI environment, which libraries?

2023-01-10 Thread andy pugh
I added a test to test the command line parameters for halcompile. https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/pull/2256 This requires sample code to reference a function in an external library. I chose "rl_ding()" from readline. But it seems that this wasn't a good choice, as the test passes on my PC

Re: [Emc-developers] Broken master 06jan23

2023-01-08 Thread andy pugh
On Sun, 8 Jan 2023 at 04:10, Chris Morley wrote: > > Why would we change to 'main' ? Github have a problem with the word "master" I think that they are misguided in this particular case, but at the same time I think that "main" is a clearer name than "master". Though perhaps "dev" would be

Re: [Emc-developers] NURBS in XY, XZ(lathe) and YZ plane

2023-01-06 Thread andy pugh
On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 at 09:52, wrote: > I found values with negative exponent, but not with positive. > How to proceed? > - 1/CART_FUZZ (#define CART_FUZZ (1.0e-8)) > - a new constant in posemath.h > - a define in emccanon.c Probably 1/CART_FUZZ. The compiler will replace that with a constant

Re: [Emc-developers] NURBS in XY, XZ(lathe) and YZ plane

2023-01-05 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 28 Dec 2022 at 16:44, wrote: > I have integrated the code from Lo Valvo and Drago > and extended it to planes yz and zx. Great, thanks. > 1. "|| beta > 1e10" > There was a small error in the function biarc in > file: src/emc/task/emccanon.cc. > I added the condition "beta > 1e10"

Re: [Emc-developers] Unknown g code used

2022-12-23 Thread andy pugh
On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 at 11:39, wrote: > > I get the Message "Unknown g code used". > How to debug this? It means exactly what it says. Which G-code is it complaining about? (note that the line number might be a few lines out) -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and

[Emc-developers] Talking of NURBS (and similar)

2022-12-23 Thread andy pugh
This YouTube video was recommended to me, and does a very good job of explaining the way that certain classes of curves are generated (and, also, why) https://youtu.be/jvPPXbo87ds -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical

Re: [Emc-developers] Fwd: Bug#1025433: Copyright issue

2022-12-21 Thread andy pugh
On Sat, 10 Dec 2022 at 20:11, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: > As Dewey reported later, procfs_macros.h is used in the RTAI backend of > RTAPI, and deleting it breaks the RTAI build unless we turn off our > /proc code at the same time. Not for me, unless I have messed up somehow. (Not unlikely) I

Re: [Emc-developers] NURBS in XY, XZ(lathe) and YZ plane

2022-12-21 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 21 Dec 2022 at 20:09, Nicklas SB Karlsson wrote: > A floating point number have the same number significant digits > wherever the decimal point is put so maybe not a big problem. In principle, not, but in practice, it's a lot of zeros to type and most CAM tools don't go to that many

Re: [Emc-developers] NURBS in XY, XZ(lathe) and YZ plane

2022-12-21 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 21 Dec 2022 at 19:54, Nicklas SB Karlsson wrote: > Specify three points in 2D or 3D space: start, centre and end points as > you suggest I think is a good idea that will work for an arc. That defines two possible arcs (simplistically, the short one and the long one) > If I think

Re: [Emc-developers] Fwd: Bug#1025433: Copyright issue

2022-12-21 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 21 Dec 2022 at 19:29, andy pugh wrote: > In fact I see _nothing_ in /proc for rtapi (with 2.8 RTAI, 2.9 RTAI > and 2.8.4 preempt-rt (from the ISO + update) Possibly worth noting that this is with kernel 4.19.195-rtai-amd64 (from our repository) -- atp "A motorcycle i

Re: [Emc-developers] Fwd: Bug#1025433: Copyright issue

2022-12-21 Thread andy pugh
On Sat, 10 Dec 2022 at 20:11, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: > There are a bunch of things in /proc/rtapi that seem useful, that use > procfs_macros.h. Unfortunately reading from any of them produces > garbage. That seems not to be the case for me: In fact I see _nothing_ in /proc for rtapi (with

Re: [Emc-developers] NURBS in XY, XZ(lathe) and YZ plane

2022-12-21 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 20 Dec 2022 at 09:47, Joachim Franek wrote: > BTW: > http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?NURBS > Here is a link to a pdf from Leto: but I do only > get a pdf with 0 file length. I got the original papers from Ernesto Lo Valvo and have uploaded them to that page. In the email that he

[Emc-developers] M3 E10

2022-12-21 Thread andy pugh
Experimenting for a reply to a different thread I tried issuing a few letters standalone. I found a surprise with E E10 "E word with no G76, M3, M4, M5, M19, M51, M66, M67 or M68 to use it" I wonder why it says that? (Actually, maybe it's my fault, did I intend to use E for spindle number at

Re: [Emc-developers] NURBS in XY, XZ(lathe) and YZ plane

2022-12-21 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 21 Dec 2022 at 12:12, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > > A point and a vector fully describe a plane in 3D space. Indeed, and you could certainly have a command to set a generic plane. But you don't need the point. G17 and friends do not define a plane, they define a continuum of planes (for

Re: [Emc-developers] NURBS in XY, XZ(lathe) and YZ plane

2022-12-20 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 20 Dec 2022 at 21:27, Nicklas SB Karlsson wrote: > Three points with three in the (x,y,z) space will define an arc in > three dimensions. Then there is three degrees of freedom for the tool > direction at each point or two for a rotating/"round" tool if I think > correct. We have been

Re: [Emc-developers] NURBS in XY, XZ(lathe) and YZ plane

2022-12-20 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 20 Dec 2022 at 09:47, Joachim Franek wrote: > http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?NURBS > Here is a link to a pdf from Leto: but I do only > get a pdf with 0 file length. That's because the file has zero length... -rw-r--r-- 1 emcboard pg167418 21037 Jan 28 2013 'Latching Shift

Re: [Emc-developers] NURBS in XY, XZ(lathe) and YZ plane

2022-12-19 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 19 Dec 2022 at 11:27, wrote: > I do not know what seicanon.cc is for! saicanon is related to the "stand alone interpreter" which I think is, in turn, related to the G-code preview and (maybe) some of the tests. https://linuxcnc.org/docs/stable/html/code/rs274.html (The manpage above

Re: [Emc-developers] NURBS in XY, XZ(lathe) and YZ plane

2022-12-18 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 15 Dec 2022 at 19:04, wrote: > > Hi, > here is my little christmas present for you: > nurbs in xy, yz and zx plane is working for me. I suspect that NURBS isn't used very much (none of the CAM packages know how to use it) so the risk of putting this straight into master is small. It

Re: [Emc-developers] Arc Bug, help needed.

2022-12-13 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 13 Dec 2022 at 18:59, andy pugh wrote: joints[joint_num].free_tp.curr_pos = H[joint_num].home; ** > This line is new *** > Runtests passes with this fix, FWIW. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the e

Re: [Emc-developers] Arc Bug, help needed.

2022-12-13 Thread andy pugh
On Sat, 10 Dec 2022 at 23:14, Dewey Garrett wrote: > > > Is anyone else able to reproduce this behaviour? > > $ wget www.panix.com/~dgarrett/stuff/arc.tgz > $ tar xzf arc.tgz > $ cd arc > Using this test (thanks, up until this point I had been unable to reproduce the issue) I have been able to

Re: [Emc-developers] Arc Bug, help needed.

2022-12-12 Thread andy pugh
On Sat, 10 Dec 2022 at 23:14, Dewey Garrett wrote: > a) not reproducible if all joints set immediate homing > as there are no residual position errors > Thanks for that, the original problem description was very garbled but seemed to be indicating that there was no movement during homing on

[Emc-developers] A curious demographic

2022-12-10 Thread andy pugh
Every week or so we get a new user signed up along these lines: Name - escortservicebangalore E-mail - @gmail.com Username - escortservicebangalore It surprises me that call girls in Bangalore are so keen on CNC. (It's always Bangalore) -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium

Re: [Emc-developers] Backplot MAX_POINTS

2022-12-10 Thread andy pugh
On Sat, 10 Dec 2022 at 19:08, Greg C wrote: I wonder if anyone is opposed to adding a 0 and bumping it up 10x? Master is open for such daredevil experimentation :-) -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses,

Re: [Emc-developers] Arc Bug, help needed.

2022-12-10 Thread andy pugh
The original corresponent has tried the latest Master and says. (Three plane test spiral code) "is good executed, but if start linuxcnc and go reference, after reference is finisch and in mdi start g2 x0y0z-1 j4 f1000 the tool go directly again at z-1 , not executed circle." Is anyone else able

Re: [Emc-developers] Fwd: Bug#1025433: Copyright issue

2022-12-10 Thread Andy Pugh
> On 10 Dec 2022, at 15:08, Dewey Garrett wrote: > > Macros used to implement the /proc interface Probably redundant since we stopped being able to set debug level in rtapi with echo 7 > /proc/debug ___ Emc-developers mailing list

Re: [Emc-developers] Fwd: Bug#1025433: Copyright issue

2022-12-10 Thread Andy Pugh
> On 10 Dec 2022, at 14:49, Dewey Garrett wrote: > > nada -- this file is intree but not used Interesting. Perhaps we can just delete it. But I fear this is just an opening salvo. ___ Emc-developers mailing list

Re: [Emc-developers] Arc Bug, help needed.

2022-12-09 Thread andy pugh
On Fri, 9 Dec 2022 at 23:50, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > I think I would pay attention to G90/G91. Shouldn't really matter. It's a different way to define the start and end points, but that happens in untouched code. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is

[Emc-developers] Fwd: Bug#1025433: Copyright issue

2022-12-09 Thread andy pugh
- From: Adam Ant Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2022 at 23:23 Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] Bug#1025433: Copyright issue To: andy pugh Cc: <1025...@bugs.debian.org> Source: linuxcnc Severity serious Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2022 at 1:36 AM From: "andy pugh" To: "EMC de

Re: [Emc-developers] Bug#1025433: Copyright issue

2022-12-07 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 8 Dec 2022 at 00:42, Adam Ant wrote: > > The correct course of action is to ask Paolo Mantegazza rather than > debating symantics. > You can not just pull substantial chunks of code from one source and then > claim that you wrote it. > But Paulo didn't write it _either_ If you go back

Re: [Emc-developers] Arc Bug, help needed.

2022-12-07 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 7 Dec 2022 at 20:36, John Thornton wrote: > I can confirm the bug is in the 2.9 branch that is currently in Debian, > I'm unable to build a RIP on 2.9 to see if it's still there as I get metric or imperial config? Did you run the test command in G20 or G21? NO_FORCE_HOMING? What CPU

Re: [Emc-developers] Arc Bug, help needed.

2022-12-07 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 7 Dec 2022 at 15:49, gene heskett wrote: Which doesn't look like its related to your g2 problem. I do not see a > g2 test by that name. There isn't a G2 test in the tests. The test is "if open axis. Comand g2 x0 y0 j5 z-2 f1000. The machine not execution g2 , but only Z-2." --

Re: [Emc-developers] Arc Bug, help needed.

2022-12-07 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 7 Dec 2022 at 14:31, John Thornton wrote: > I can reproduce the problem in 2.9 with an Axis sim, the move shown on > the backport is Z only. I need to connect to a machine to test if the > backport is what happens. Do you mean "backplot" or "preview"? If it shows up in the preview then

[Emc-developers] Arc Bug, help needed.

2022-12-07 Thread andy pugh
In February I fixed this bug: https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/issues/1528 But, it seems, I failed to properly consider full-circle spiral arcs, and the test was wrong. https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/issues/2169 (Note that this issue report was _not_ raised by the original reporter,

Re: [Emc-developers] Bug#1025433: Copyright issue

2022-12-05 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 5 Dec 2022 at 14:14, Adam Ant wrote: > Source: linuxcnc > > src/rtapi/procfs_macros.h incorrectly attributes copyright. > > The original file can be found here: > > http://svn.savannah.gnu.org/viewvc/rtai/magma/base/include/rtai_proc_fs.h?view=markup At what point does a file become a

Re: [Emc-developers] Eye candy is important - Titan got a new German friend - want that reaction for a LinuxCNC controller

2022-12-04 Thread andy pugh
On Sun, 4 Dec 2022 at 20:23, Rod Webster wrote: > > @Andy, For users with modern hardware, there are many more gotchas due to > lack of driver support in our current buster ISO. I am not talking about the Buster ISO, but the idea of our own Bullseye / Bookwork ISO too. Note that the

Re: [Emc-developers] feed hold ?

2022-12-04 Thread andy pugh
On Sun, 4 Dec 2022 at 19:19, Jon Elson wrote: > > Yikes! I can see arguments both ways, but feed hold or feed > inhibit seems like it should stop all motion, I think it should stop feeds (or it would be called "all-motion-inhibit" :-) -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium

Re: [Emc-developers] Eye candy is important - Titan got a new German friend - want that reaction for a LinuxCNC controller

2022-12-04 Thread andy pugh
On Sun, 4 Dec 2022 at 11:45, Rod Webster wrote: > In recent days, Linuxcnc does not seem to like the Wayland based graphical > ... > Do not add a root password so the default user can use sudo. > ... You might like to disable autologon and the screensaver. That's three "gotchas" that can

Re: [Emc-developers] A vision for working now to LinuxCnc version 10

2022-12-02 Thread andy pugh
On Fri, 2 Dec 2022 at 18:43, Johannes P Fassotte < johan...@automationassist.com> wrote: > I also feel > that there is way to much resistance by the LinuxCnc developers to > implement what many of us may see as a absolute requirement. 1) This is the first time that I have heard this

Re: [Emc-developers] pncconf discrepancy between 2.8 and 2.9

2022-12-02 Thread andy pugh
On Fri, 2 Dec 2022 at 04:38, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: > I'm merging 2.8 into 2.9, and I came across a spot where it looks like a > feature was added independently to both 2.8 and 2.9 (7i96s support in > pncconf), and a bunch of bugfixes were applied in 2.9 but not 2.8. I was going to do that

Re: [Emc-developers] Eye candy is important - Titan got a new German friend - want that reaction for a LinuxCNC controller

2022-12-01 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 30 Nov 2022 at 23:31, Steffen Moeller wrote: I consider all our users to be somehow part of our project and am > agnostic about the interface they are using. From how I see it, if > PyQtVCP does something better than QtVCP then QtVCP gets some > encouragement and ideas on how to improve

Re: [Emc-developers] manual tool change

2022-12-01 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 1 Dec 2022 at 16:42, Jon Elson wrote: > Thanks for any insight, I don't use this feature at the moment. > It seems to work fine in a simulator (sim/axis_mm) without anything connected to hal_manualtoolchange.change_button. Perhaps he has an odd graphics setup or skin that is making the

Re: [Emc-developers] Eye candy is important - Titan got a new German friend - want that reaction for a LinuxCNC controller

2022-12-01 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 1 Dec 2022 at 16:16, Chad Woitas wrote: > > Sounds to me like a package manager is what ya'll are looking for. > Download Base Linuxcnc, and add in the UI's and interfaces afterwards. Splitting the LinuxCNC package into sub-packages is probably more work than anyone has the appetite

Re: [Emc-developers] Eye candy is important - Titan got a new German friend - want that reaction for a LinuxCNC controller

2022-12-01 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 1 Dec 2022 at 16:06, Jérémie Tarot wrote: Absolutely ! I already told JT and said here that MesaCT repository surely > deserves to join the LinuxCNC organization  > Then new users are _really_ going to need a flowchart to get them going. Are you using a Mesa card? Which one? In that

Re: [Emc-developers] Merge Strategy

2022-11-30 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 30 Nov 2022 at 12:04, Chris Morley wrote: I presented my idea to see if anyone could show a fatal flaw of it so I > appreciate the discussion/feedback. I think the only advantage of our current strategy (and it's not a good one) is that if things get forgotten then they will still be

Re: [Emc-developers] LinuxCNC 2.9~pre ISO tmp URL Aw: Re: Eye candy isimportant - Titan got a new German friend - want that reaction for aLinuxCNC controller

2022-11-30 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 30 Nov 2022 at 10:19, gene heskett wrote: I assume this is a live demo that can be installed too? Did I miss the > original announcement? > There isn't an announcement, this is a test build of the ISO and unless you have a sacrificial machine that isn't making parts then you should

Re: [Emc-developers] Merge Strategy

2022-11-30 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 30 Nov 2022 at 07:38, Chris Morley wrote: > > The only solution, given our current strategy, is to wait/ask for someone > else to fix it. > This is the crux of the problem. I think that our current merge-up strategy has been right in the past and will be right again, but currently

Re: [Emc-developers] Your comment editor for the forums sucks for posting commands

2022-11-29 Thread andy pugh
Oh, yes, it's truly awful. I end up pressing the "source" button and re-arranging the tags by hand. I can't believe that Joomla put such a mess out. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and

Re: [Emc-developers] Eye candy is important - Titan got a new German friend - want that reaction for a LinuxCNC controller

2022-11-29 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 29 Nov 2022 at 20:59, Rod Webster wrote: Why would we bother hosting our own ISO on slow servers and put our limited > resources into building and maintaining said ISO's when the new paradigm is > already with us right now? > It's to lower the bar for Windows users, trying to make it as

Re: [Emc-developers] Eye candy is important - Titan got a new German friend - want that reaction for a LinuxCNC controller

2022-11-29 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 29 Nov 2022 at 16:53, Steffen Möller wrote: > Hello, > > No need to watch this, really. Titan has a nice Heller machine and passes > the Sinumeric control > https://youtu.be/zToKZtqQMIo?t=354 > with some excitement. I actually find LinuxCNC even nicer, especially for > what I saw from

Re: [Emc-developers] Next LinuxCNC video chat

2022-11-24 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 24 Nov 2022 at 16:37, Jérémie Tarot wrote: > > I don't know, but I wish it would be in another form in another more > obvious place, like GH project's wiki Some minutes exist on the LinuxCNC Wiki, for example: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Meeting201306

Re: [Emc-developers] Next LinuxCNC video chat

2022-11-24 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 24 Nov 2022 at 16:21, Feral Engineer wrote: > > On a Fanuc and Mitsubishi, it just searches for line numbers As far as I know the LinuxCNC interpreter completely ignores line numbers. So, there would need to be a way to insert a label, and it would need to be an O-word to stop the

Re: [Emc-developers] Built LinuxCNC 2.9 bookworm .iso - where shall I put it? Aw: Re: Plans for the USB sticks anyone?

2022-11-24 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 24 Nov 2022 at 16:08, Steffen Möller wrote: > I could well imagine that there are some other folks interested to play with > this. Can I put this somewhere underneath linuxcnc.org? It could go in www.linuxcnc.org/iso Though it would have to be put there by someone with write access (I

Re: [Emc-developers] Next LinuxCNC video chat

2022-11-24 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 24 Nov 2022 at 15:21, Feral Engineer wrote: > The question always stands, does LinuxCNC want to gain mainstream > popularity or does it just want to remain a tinker toy to a select few? I am happy with the latter, the support burden of the existing user base is already too much... :-)

Re: [Emc-developers] Next LinuxCNC video chat

2022-11-24 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 24 Nov 2022 at 15:21, Feral Engineer wrote: > plus 5 > different goto, as I mentioned. LinuxCNC supports pluggable interpreters. It would actually be possible to make LinuxCNC 100% compatible with any other G-code dialect. But it would be a lot of work. But, back to goto: How is the

Re: [Emc-developers] Next LinuxCNC video chat

2022-11-24 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 24 Nov 2022 at 14:29, Feral Engineer wrote: > To comment on the section involving Siemens Sinumerik, at least one of the > 5 different goto options would be nice to have I think that will be a fight, there are too many programmers on the team who have been taught that GOTO is evil.

Re: [Emc-developers] Next LinuxCNC video chat

2022-11-24 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 24 Nov 2022 at 05:19, Chris Morley wrote: > > How about a summary write up? There are some notes here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aWMxBY8IbCYXFLFvjgqUXZ09inZp5u0r-pZcjeb2bWk/edit?usp=sharing -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for

Re: [Emc-developers] 2.9 Release Manager Required.

2022-11-23 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 23 Nov 2022 at 21:10, Alec Ari via Emc-developers wrote: > > Ok, with that being said, we should stop saying RTAI cannot/will not be > tested. I keep reading that among/amongst the mailing list. No, I for one remain keen on retaining RTAI support (and Xenomai too) -- atp "A motorcycle

[Emc-developers] Merge Strategy

2022-11-23 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 8 Nov 2022 at 21:38, Chris Morley wrote: > > I wonder if we might discuss a different merging strategy for 2 9/master. > This would be relative to work being done in 2.9 for release. > > I suggest we don't merge up any more. > Cherry pick or a separate commit makes more sense to me. >

Re: [Emc-developers] time delay hal component for lube pump

2022-11-22 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 22 Nov 2022 at 15:36, Chad Woitas wrote: > > > Could just use iocontrol by the sounds of it > http://linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/config/iov2.html I don't believe that the oicontrol.0.lube-on signal pulses, which I think was required. I can think of at least three ways to generate a

Re: [Emc-developers] time delay hal component for lube pump

2022-11-21 Thread Andy Pugh
> On 21 Nov 2022, at 21:17, Jon Elson wrote: > > Anybody know a better way to do this? How about a really slow, low duty-cycle pwmgen ___ Emc-developers mailing list Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [Emc-developers] hal_port

2022-11-21 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 21 Nov 2022 at 12:10, Rod Webster wrote: > Could the examples and tests discussed here and in the docs find their way > into the 2.9 release? I think that they are already in the prerelease: https://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.9/html/man/man3/hal_port.3hal.html -- atp "A motorcycle is a

Re: [Emc-developers] 2.9 Release Manager Required.

2022-11-14 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 14 Nov 2022 at 20:42, Jérémie Tarot wrote: > Could someone explain me how relocating the buildbot on someone's > machine can be better for the project than migrating it to GitHub > Actions, build farm and package hoster ? What would the user install instructions look like in that

Re: [Emc-developers] Python3 is available also for buster Aw: Re: 2.9 Release Manager Required.

2022-11-14 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 14 Nov 2022 at 14:26, Steffen Möller wrote: > > If all the dependencies of the RTAI version are in Debian then I see no > reason why only the RTAI version should be built. The main dependency of the RTAI version is the RTAI kernel. And that isn't in Debian. -- atp "A motorcycle is a

Re: [Emc-developers] Plans for the USB sticks anyone?

2022-11-14 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 14 Nov 2022 at 14:53, Steffen Möller wrote: > I am tempted to suggest that the LiveCD may run with bookworm. My line of > thought is that when we release, bookworm will already be "frozen", such that > the parts of Debian we are using are unlikely to see much of a change until > the

Re: [Emc-developers] 2.9 Release Manager Required.

2022-11-14 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 14 Nov 2022 at 10:18, Rod Webster wrote: > > Do we really need a Bullseye release? I think so. I have the impression that the 2.9 release is already considered "late" and our LiveCD is currently based on Buster (which is out of date, though still supported as oldstable, I think?)

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