RE: Required Margin for EMI?

1998-10-27 Thread Brent DeWitt
-Original Message- From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Scott Douglas Sent: Monday, October 26, 1998 10:50 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Required Margin for EMI? Hello all, When doing EMI scans of ITE, I

Re: Required Margin for EMI?

1998-10-27 Thread MartinJP
Scott, Last year, CENELEC attempted to formalize a common practice for measurement uncertainty (prEN50222). It failed. In November 1997, during the CISPR/A meeting a decision was made to issue a new international Committee Draft (CD) on this issue. I have

help Mr. Wizards

1998-10-27 Thread Gary McInturff
I am concerned with the requirement - or not - of having a disconnected device other than wiring terminal block on equipment residing in telco CO's. This would be for redundant -48 Vdc supplies. I have been following the discussion lately and the intent seems to be to provide that - possible

EMC limits.

1998-10-27 Thread Chris Dupres
EMC Folk. I have been reading all the learned submissions of what constitutes the acceptable emission limits for EMC purposes. Most of you are very clever, very technical, and I'm in awe of all of you. But there seems to be a bit of a missed point here. EMC in Europe relates to the EMC

ETSI standard

1998-10-27 Thread Rossi Giuseppe
Dear collegues, I've heard some notice for a new frequency band ( around 860 MHz) for low power unlicensed transmitting devices. Moreover which are the applicable norms? It seems tome that the etsi 300-220 doesn't cover this band . Could some one shed light on this topics thank you to all

re: Indicator color standard

1998-10-27 Thread Mark D'Agostino
Francis: Refer to IEC 73 : Colors of indicator lights and push-buttons. ISO 3864 : is Safety colors and safety signs. It does not detail the requirements for indicators lights or LED's. Also you can look to EN 60204-1, sections 10.2 and 10.3 for a condensed version of IEC 73 specific for

EMI Limit Margin Summary

1998-10-27 Thread Scott Douglas
Hi Again, I received quite a few responses to my query regarding EMI limits and margins. The results indicate that there are no actual written margins in current standards. There were some old standards, i.e. VDE, from long ago that specified either 2.0 or 2.2 dB margin. But these are no longer

RE: Indicator color standard

1998-10-27 Thread Russell, Ray
Dear Francis, I have used IEC 73 (BS EN 60073) Specification for coding of indicating devices and actuators by colours and supplementary means. BS EN 60204 Safety of machinery- Electrical equipment of machines also has a section on indicating lights. Ray Russell ray_russ...@gastmfg.com

Re: EMI Limit Margin Summary

1998-10-27 Thread Robert Macy
Sorry, to not get this in before your summary. When Sony (video div) was my client, they had an internal spec margin requirement of 8 dB. That's right! 8 dB below Class B limits. After going though that I'm convinced to use Sony equipment as support electronics. g

RE: EMC Limits

1998-10-27 Thread WOODS, RICHARD
TVs and radios have a specified signal rejection. That is, they must continue to operate with a specified minimum signal to noise ratio and a specified minimum signal. That noise signal may be a spurious emission from another product. That derived noise signal is projected to a certain protection

Indoor vs. Outdoor emissions testing

1998-10-27 Thread Steve Kuiper
Joe, Our laboratory was used to compare readings in the low-end, specifically 30 MHz. to 90 MHz. on an OEM product In particular the OEM customer who maintains 10m indoor anechoic facilities claimed that our customer was failing the CISPR22B limits by 5-6dB in the above freq. range. After

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1998-10-27 Thread Douglas McKean
Ok, you guys got me. I didn't think it's take this long. I confess. The gig's up. I'm the one ... About 15 years ago in another company far away, I brought a product into a reputable lab to be tested. It passed, if I remember correctly, by -0.5 dB. The confidence acid test back then was (and

Re: Fwd: Re: Indicator color standard

1998-10-27 Thread Peter Merguerian
Dear Scott, For industrial type equipment, the European Standard EN60204-1 and the US, the NFPA 79 Standard are to be used for colors of indicator lights and push buttons. Upon your review of these two standards, you will note some minor differences in color specs. Best Regards, Date sent:

Re: help Mr. Wizards; Disconnect Device for Permanently Wired Units

1998-10-27 Thread Peter Merguerian
Dear Gary, A terminal block ( I assume it is suitable for the number and size of wiring to be accepted in the field and that it is Recognized/Certified for field wiring) is an acceptable method for connection of telecom equipment to the dc supply in a RAL (Restricted Access Location). Since

RE: DoC

1998-10-27 Thread Peter Merguerian
Lauren and Bailin, Thank you for updating us on this trivial yet complex issue. Date sent: Mon, 26 Oct 98 14:35:11 PST To: emc-p...@ieee.org, Crane,Lauren lcr...@aus.etn.com From: b...@namg.us.anritsu.com Bailin Ma Subject:

Re: Indoor vs. Outdoor emissions testing

1998-10-27 Thread ed . price
From: Steve Kuiper aegisl...@email.msn.com Subject: Indoor vs. Outdoor emissions testing Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:31:59 -0800 To: EMC-PSTC emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Joe, Our laboratory was used to compare readings in the low-end, specifically 30 MHz.

Re: China requirements

1998-10-27 Thread rjgraff
Thanks to all who replied to my request. The information has been a big help. Rob Graff - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help,