Hello Frank, > As my UL friends are always quick to point out, they > are not-for-profit, not non-profit. Not being expert, > I assume there is some subtle difference that is lots > on the rest of us. nonprofit - not established to make a profit (nonprofit organizations) - Cambridge Dictionary of American English (http://www.cup.cam.ac.uk/elt/dictionary/) By this definition, UL is a nonprofit organization. I assume that your friends (and the Post) consider profit to mean "money that a business earns above what it costs to produce and sell goods and services". Given the general usage of the prefix "non", and that UL's earnings are higher than it's costs - perhaps they feel that "not-for-profit" more clearly describes the company. > A more general question is, why is does UL continue to > enjoy special consideration when what they are doing > is not unique? > > Regards, > > Frank West > Sr. Engineer > TUV Rheinland NA Is it necessary to do something unique to enjoy "special consideration"? When you say "special consideration", I assume you are referring to UL's tax-exempt status. Do you object to UL's tax-exempt status, or covet it?
Regards, Matt > --- Barry Ma <barry...@altavista.com> wrote: > > > > Chaz, Why do they call UL a non-profit organization? > > Barry > > Anritsu Co. > > -------------------- > > From: "Grasso, Charles (Chaz)" > > <gra...@louisville.stortek.com>, on 11/24/99 1:23 > > PM: > > > > Forgive a jaded old man but two things jumped out at > > me when I read the article. > > > > 1. "In many other countries, standards are set or > > approved by a government entity with industry > > involvement. U.S. safety standards, on the other > > hand, are set primarily by private industry - either > > in independent labs such as UL or by industry > > associations or organizations. The CPSC, an > > independent regulatory agency charged with > > protecting consumers from hazardous products, > > imposes federal regulations only when it believes > > industry's voluntary efforts are insufficient. " > > > > Oh Boy. Lets see look like UL is ripe for a > > government takeover to me!! > > > > 2. Many experts interviewed contend that UL's recent > > problems can be traced to the way the company is > > organized and funded - with more than nine-tenths of > > its revenue coming from companies for testing > > products. UL also sets industry safety standards - > > which it then measures products against - but does > > not > > charge for that. Lets see - if we reorganize and - > > more importantly - change the funding (a euphemism > > for taxation) then we'll all be safer!! > > > > Sorry - Just could not resist.. > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Open your mind. Close your wallet. > > Free Internet Access from AltaVista. > > http://www.altavista.com > > > > > > --------- > > This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion > > list. > > To cancel your subscription, send mail to > > majord...@ieee.org > > with the single line: "unsubscribe emc-pstc" > > (without the > > quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, > > jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or > > roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list > > administrators). > > > > > > > > > ===== > Frank West > Senior Engineer > TUV Rheinland of North America > NW/Portland OR Office > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. > Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com > > --------- > This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. > To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org > with the single line: "unsubscribe emc-pstc" (without the > quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, > jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or > roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators). > > > --------- This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: "unsubscribe emc-pstc" (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).