Re: Approvals in India Indonesia Thailand

2003-12-11 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Hello Amund, It's difficult to be too specific without detailed product information, but in very general terms... India Radio regulator is the Wireless Planning and Coordination wing (WPC) of the Dept. of Telecommunications (DoT). Evaluation of the radio may be required for licenses to

another questions

2003-12-11 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Dear all, Someone tell that induction motor is excluded from the scope of EMC directive ! Can anyone tell me whether it's ture? If it's true why? TUV Rheinland -CCIC(Ningbo) Co., Ltd. Zhang qiaofeng Project Engineer 13th Floor, Golden Port Hotel 51 Yang Shan Road, Ningbo 315020, P. R.

Re: Failure of Harmonised Standards to meet the Safety Objectives of the LVD

2003-12-11 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Hello Richard, This doesn't surprise me considering it has always been my philosophy that complying with a safety standard does not guarantee that your product is safe. There are always additional things to consider in evaluating a product's safety beyond established standards. This is one reason

Re: Approvals in India Indonesia Thailand

2003-12-11 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
What about EMC approvals Cecil A. Gittens Telephone : (585) 726-2290 Kevin Keegan

Failure of Harmonised Standards to meet the Safety Objectives of the LVD

2003-12-11 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Folks, If you are interested in safety requirements within Europe you may wish to take a look at the following URL: http://europa.eu.int/eur-lex/pri/en/oj/ at/2003/c_297/c_29720031209en00210022.pdf This is titled COMMISSION OPINION of 8 December 2003 within the framework of Council Directive

MOV's to ground

2003-12-11 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Sorry - I know this has been flogged to death, but can someone please point me to something in writing that says you can't have MOV's to ground in a product destined for Germany? Or has that gone away? Any other countries with the same or similar rules? We are not in EN60950 - this is an

RE: NEBS GR spec?

2003-12-11 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Richard, I've been away from NEBS for about a year, so my information may be dated.. As far as I know, there is no requirement for ejectors in GR-63 or GR-1089. If it passes the office vibration and earthquake zone 4, then it is ok. The real answer will lie with your customers. For example if

RE: NEBS GR spec?

2003-12-11 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Richard, The following is a cut and paste from GR-78, Issue 1, Sep-1997. I think it answers your question. The R4-## are requirements and the IP4-62 is an industry practice (meaning should do it this way not shall). This is a good GR standard to have as it covers many of the generic practices.

Re: Approvals in India Indonesia Thailand

2003-12-11 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
I think those countries are part of the CB scheme but I advise checking the CB website, http://www.cbscheme.org/ Regards Kevin Kevin Keegan Senior Associate KES Associates 1 Stonecroft Terrace Kanata, Ontario Canada K2K 2V1 Tel: 613-592-0820 Email: kkee...@sympatico.ca Web:

Environmental standards

2003-12-11 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
The ETSI standard series EN 300 019 defines a set of environmental tests (storage, transport, etc) for telecom equipment. Can the standards be use for medical equipment or do medical equipment have their own environmental standards? Amund Westin Oslo / Norway This message is from the IEEE EMC

RE: NEBS GR spec?

2003-12-11 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Hi Richard, As far as I understand it, NEBS level 3 as defined in SR-3580 technically only references GR-1089-CORE and GR-63-CORE. I don't believe there are any direct references to requirements for ejectors in them. That being said, you should check GR-78-CORE (physical design - part of the

RE: NEBS GR spec?

2003-12-11 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Richard, GR-78 Section 4.2.3 details Insertion and Removal Forces and specifies a maximum of 32 pounds of force. If you use two latches for insertion/removal, each latch is allowed 16 pounds of force. As you probably know, the only approval that makes a difference is from your customers.

Re: NEBS GR spec?

2003-12-11 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Hi Stone: NEBS level 3 requires the product to comply with Earthquake zone 4. If an ejector is required to remove the circuit card because of the force required to extract it, you may have a better chance of complying with Zone 4. (You don't want the circuit cards to fall out during the

Approvals in India Indonesia Thailand

2003-12-11 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
We have a telecom / Radio product that have been tested according to the following EU standards: EMC: EN 301 489-1, EN 301 489-12, EN55022 LVD: EN 60950 RTTE: EN 301 428 Now, we are looking for access to India, Indonesia and Thailand. Anybody familiar with these countries if the accepts CB

NEBS GR spec?

2003-12-11 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
hello all, does anyone have an idea if the Nebs level 3 approval has any information or a requirment on when an ejector is required based on the force it takes to insert and remove a board from its chassis? some boards dont use or need ejectors,and some do. is it based on satisfying any NEBS GR

RE: ETSI new rules for 2004 - Design for the Environment

2003-12-11 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Hi Folks This thread was live about a month or so ago. Today I received a forum email from the Environmental Standards group within ETSI laying out the plans for involvement in CENELEC working group BTWG 85-3. This forum would be of interest to anyone with environmental compliance

RE: LISN correction factors?

2003-12-11 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
-Original Message- From: Bill Flanigan [ mailto:bflani...@ameritherm.com] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 4:04 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: LISN correction factors? Esteemed homologists, Anyone out there have the correction factors for the CHASE/Schaffner

RE: ERA Report 69-30

2003-12-11 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Whatever you can do, john, would be appreciated. Regards, Peter L. Tarver, PE ptar...@ieee.org From: John Allen Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 8:55 AM Peter I can't investigate all of them (we sell far too many!) but I will try to find out the new numbers for all of the parts

Re: LISN correction factors?

2003-12-11 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. Bill, As LISN's can change over time you really should get the calibration factors from the rental agency you are working with. If this is not feasible, you can use the methods in ANSI C63.4 in which you can either use a Network Analyzer (if available)

LISN correction factors?

2003-12-11 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Esteemed homologists, Anyone out there have the correction factors for the CHASE/Schaffner MN 2050D LISN? The one I'm renting is missing the manual and the factors. Thanks, WmFlanigan Standards Engineer Ameritherm, Inc. 39 Main Street Scottsville, NY 14546 1.800.456.4328 x118

RE: ETSI new rules for 2004

2003-12-11 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Hi Folks Just reread the attachment I just forwarded - and under the conditions that I received it - I should not have done that, so please delete it and disregard it. Sincere apologies to all concerned. John Allen, Technical Consultant EMC and Safety Engineering ERA Technology Ltd. Cleeve

ERA Report 69-00

2003-12-11 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Hi Peter Further to the various enquiries on the above, here are the new numbers (in the quotation marks) for the various parts of Report 69-00, which was renumbered as 69-0030 and then split up and is now published as follows: Part 1 = 69-0030 Part I Current ratings for distribution cables.

Re: one question about EN 55014-2

2003-12-11 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
I read in !emc-pstc that qiaofeng.zh...@nb.chn.tuv.com wrote (in ofca152810.03ddfd49-on48256df9.00309243-48256df9.00319...@cn.tuv.com) about 'one question about EN 55014-2' on Thu, 11 Dec 2003: Thx for ur kindly help! Maybe my question is so simple that no one else answer it. No, it's not

Re: one question about EN 55014-2

2003-12-11 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
I read in !emc-pstc that Neil Helsby nei...@solid-state-logic.com wrote (in 20031211.8330...@mis.configured.host) about 'one question about EN 55014-2' on Thu, 11 Dec 2003: Hence to meet the requirements of CE marking, for example, it may be possible to argue that a system consisting only of

Re: one question about EN 55014-2

2003-12-11 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Dear , Thx for ur kindly help! Maybe my question is so simple that no one else answer it. Your opinion is also the same as my. But in fact I hear different opinion,someone think that diode also can be considerd as a passive components.And one of their gist is Electirc circuits consisting

Re: one question about EN 55014-2

2003-12-11 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Original Message On 10/12/2003, 07:07:53, qiaofeng.zh...@nb.chn.tuv.com wrote regarding one question about EN 55014-2: When a appatatus has some electronic contril citcuitry how to decide which category it belongs to,according to the standard. I means that I fell a little wonder about

RE: French Labeling

2003-12-11 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Hi Bob, Try this link http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/epic/internet/insmt-gst.nsf/vwGeneratedInterE/sf01 006e.html I was having trouble getting through to this link prior to sending it to you, I assume it is just server trouble at the time. This is a document, EMCAB-3 - Implementation and

RE: Crossed-out wheeled bin symbol

2003-12-11 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Rich, I'll send you a file. Regards, Chris ___ Chris James Engineering Services Manager Dolby Laboratories, Inc. (UK) Direct: 01793 842136 From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org