RE: Kalmus Amplifier

2004-04-14 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
From: Ahmad Fallah [mailto:emcesd2...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 3:39 PM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Kalmus Amplifier Hello all, Would anyone in the group know of a shop that can repair and calibrate Kalmus amplifiers? We have sent our broadband amplifier out

Re: Defining an ESD Threat

2004-04-14 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
After looking at the triboelectric series, it seems that the only time a human would charge negatively is after falling off an airplane! Otherwise, you are likely to be positevily charged. Hans Mellberg

Kalmus Amplifier

2004-04-14 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Hello all, Would anyone in the group know of a shop that can repair and calibrate Kalmus amplifiers? We have sent our broadband amplifier out for repairs, but the response has been very slow. Thanks, Ahmad Fallah

Measurements under EN 61000-3-2 and 3-3

2004-04-14 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Did anyone already perform measurements under the directives EN 61000-3-2 and 3-3 using the equipment PHFx from Haefely? Other equipment suggestion? Many Thanks, Djonny -- UFSC - Universidade Federal de Santa Catarina GEMCO - Grupo de Engenharia em Compatibiliade Eletromagnética Caixa

RE: Product Safety Symbol Legalities

2004-04-14 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
You are not going to get a clear answer. You liability is a probability calculation, no a yes or no answer. You can provide an attendant to personally warn users as they do the wrong thing and still have liability. If your product is attractive enough to distract someone's glance as they walk

RE: Rechargeable and Non-Rechargeable batteries

2004-04-14 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Chris - You might be able to find a barrel connector with a switch mechanism built in that will remove the batteries from the circuit automatically, as the plug is inserted. This won't allow for charging NimH or other secondary cells, but it's safer for primary cells. Long ago, I owned a few

Re: Product Safety Symbol Legalities

2004-04-14 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Hi Joe: As a manufacturer, are we covered from any liability as a result of the user not being aware of what the symbol means? Do we assume that users know to refer to the manual when they see that symbol? Are there any court cases that have set precedents on this issue or

emc-pstc Administrative Message

2004-04-14 Thread Rich Nute
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RE: Defining an ESD Threat

2004-04-14 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Ah yes, things get more complicated as usual... There is something called the Triboelectric series, which gives you some idea of the charging possibilities between materials There further apart two materials are in the series, the more charge you get from rubbing them together -- the

Re: Rechargeable and Non-Rechargeable batteries

2004-04-14 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Totally anecdotal reply. I have a Fluke 97 Scopemeter I purchased perhaps ten years ago. It has a wall-wart supply that recharges internal C-cell batteries, but it can also run on alkaline or other non-rechargeable C-cells. To the best of my knowledge, it is up to me to remember what

Re: Defining an ESD Threat

2004-04-14 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
That makes sense, but it only addresses half of the ESD environment question, which is how high a potential can something be charged up to, and how long will it hold the charge. The other half of the question is the charge-generating mechanism. If the surfaces one walks on are largely metal or

Re: Rechargeable and Non-Rechargeable batteries

2004-04-14 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
I read in !emc-pstc that Chris Maxwell chris.maxw...@nettest.com wrote (in 39f7060a00b5e946b516261c077441c002a...@utexch1w.gnnettest.com) about 'Rechargeable and Non-Rechargeable batteries' on Wed, 14 Apr 2004: We generally test our equipment to EN 61010-1. We usually have rechargeable

RE: Defining an ESD Threat

2004-04-14 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
In addition to what Mike stated below the chances of an ESD even occurring in a high humidity environment is less, not to mention the charges of an even occurring in a high humidity environment will be smaller (ie not likely to reach 25kV for example). I agree with the comments made that the

Product Safety Symbol Legalities

2004-04-14 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Greetings, A common product safety symbol, the exclamation point within a triangle, is used to refer the user to the manual. General questions: As a manufacturer, are we covered from any liability as a result of the user not being aware of what the symbol means? Do we assume that users

Re: Rechargeable and Non-Rechargeable batteries

2004-04-14 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Hi Chris: 1. A case designed with a wall wart power input and a spot for AA sized batteries. 2. The product would be designed to recharge AA sized NiMh batteries, if installed. 3. Alternatively, the user could install AA sized alkaline batteries; but they would

RE: Defining an ESD Threat

2004-04-14 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Simple thing to do is take an ESD simulator and try charging some objects in that environment and see if they will hold a charge In high humidity, I'd expect charges to bleed off very quickly on most objects, which is why the ESD threat would be low In low humidity, of course, the charged

Job Opening: Sr. Compliance Reliability Technician

2004-04-14 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Greetings, Nokia Enterprise Mobility Systems has an opening for an experience technician in Mountain View, CA. Primary responsibility The set-up of equipment for compliance and reliability testing. As such, knowledge of commissioning networking equipment, primarily Ethernet/IP, is very

Rechargeable and Non-Rechargeable batteries

2004-04-14 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Hello good people of the group. We generally test our equipment to EN 61010-1. We usually have rechargeable batteries in our product; and they’ve never really been a safety problem, other than adding diodes and “approved” charging methods. Usually the batteries that we use are so oddly

Defining an ESD Threat

2004-04-14 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Esteemed List Members, I am working a problem where it would be helpful to define an ESD threat level in a particular high humidity, metallic surroundings environment - expectation is that ESD levels would be much lower than typical. I have a very high level concept of how it might be done,

Re: zincor EMI contact

2004-04-14 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
I read in !emc-pstc that Jan Vercammen jan.vercamm...@agfa.com wrote (in ofdcf4c49e.94e1a38a-onc1256e76.004f83c3-c1256e76.004fc...@agfa.com ) about 'zincor EMI contact' on Wed, 14 Apr 2004: Because it is lower in the electrochemical table zinc oxide will protect the iron. No, it doesn't work

zincor EMI contact

2004-04-14 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
__ emc-pstc list, I have a question concerning Zincor, which I think is a trade name for steel coated with zinc. The zinc will protect the steel (iron) from oxidation. Because it is lower in the electrochemical table zinc oxide will protect the iron. The steel is coated

RE: NRTL vs. NRTL, NCB vs. NCB

2004-04-14 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Peter, NOTE: THIS EMAIL DOES NOT REPRESENT THE POLICY OR OPINION OF MY EMPLOYER. Thanks for your thoughtful response. Based on the many responses that I have received both on and off-line, it is evident that much of the compliance engineering community is now faced with NCBs and NRTLs that are

Re: laminated capacitor source

2004-04-14 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
I read in !emc-pstc that Fred Townsend f...@dctolight.net wrote (in 407c73c3.1080...@dctolight.net) about 'laminated capacitor source' on Tue, 13 Apr 2004: I don't understand. Xc and ESR are not normally related to each other. Are you using modern math? It's an example of Q = 10^-6. --

Re: laminated capacitor source

2004-04-14 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
At 11:50 AM -0700 4/13/04, Fred Townsend wrote: John Woodgate wrote: I read in !emc-pstc that Chris Maxwell mailto:chris.maxw...@nettest.comchris.maxw...@nettest.com wrote (in mailto:39F7060A00B5E946B516261C07744 c002a...@utexch1w.gnnettest.com39F706