Re: What is killer joules?

2007-08-10 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
But is that 350 joules in a 1400 uF cap charged to 500 V or a 3.5 F cap charged to 10 V? I don't think the 10 V solution would have any useful effect. -- How about 12 VDC?? Have you ever leaned against a chrome car bumper on a hot summers day when sweaty and wearing shorts and tried to disconne

C-Tick registration

2007-08-10 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
I'm not a compliance engineer so excuse the poor terminology... I have a FCC/EU EMC report for a product that will be sold in Australia. We don't have an office in Australia that is registered with their regulatory agency. As I understand it, we need to pay a fee to an approved office to "hold"

RE: What is killer joules?

2007-08-10 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Hi Robert: > What is the amount of energy that kills a person? There is no single answer to this question. First, continuous current through the heart can cause fibrillation and, if not corrected, death due to lack of blood circulation. The value of the continuous current depends on the locati

RE: What is killer joules?

2007-08-10 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
The phrase “abbreviated life-span” is an interesting way to put it. It is reminiscent of a politically correct way of saying the patient actually died, “negative patient-care outcome.” -doug Advanced Energy Industries, Inc. Fort Collins Co _ From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mai

Re: What is killer joules?

2007-08-10 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In message <252800.4603...@web39601.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, dated Fri, 10 Aug 2007, Bill Owsley writes: >Defibrillators dump energy as shocks rated at a max of 360 joules into >the human.  This stops the fibrillation of the heart by stopping the >heart effectively 'killing' you, but the hope is t

Re: What is killer joules?

2007-08-10 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Defibrillators dump energy as shocks rated at a max of 360 joules into the human. This stops the fibrillation of the heart by stopping the heart effectively 'killing' you, but the hope is that you don't stay that way. The heart will re-generate its electrical activity if there has not been a lot

Re: What is killer joules?

2007-08-10 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In message , dated Fri, 10 Aug 2007, Robert A. Macy writes: > For example, maximum leakage in Medical Electronics for direct >connection to patients is around 10uA Yes, because the current may have a low-impedance path to a vital organ, especially the heart. > Maximum leakage for AC mains

RE: What is killer joules?

2007-08-10 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
for I.T, 60960-1 hazardous E = 20J; but, in my opinion, I do not believe that this should be ok for contact. for medical, it depends on what is contacted and what is in proximity. Max E limits are determined various ways, in accordance with the charts on Annex G of 601-1 3d Ed. for test equip, 10

China CNCA 2007 Notice No. 21

2007-08-10 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
To Those Who are Interested in: CNCA has revised several implementation rules. The official notice for the revision, in Chinese, can be found at http://www.cnca.gov.cn/cnca/zwxx/ggxx/19260.shtml> http://www.cnca.gov.cn/cnca/zwxx/ggxx/19260.shtml . The following implementation rules have b

What is killer joules?

2007-08-10 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
What is the amount of energy that kills a person? This may seem like mixing terms here, but: [If these limits are in error, please correct...] For example, maximum leakage in Medical Electronics for direct connection to patients is around 10uA Maximum leakage for AC mains RFI/EMI filters is 2