RE: EMC in the news: RFID Medical

2008-06-26 Thread Gert Gremmen
The report was produced by TNO, a Dutch private organization (http://www.tno.nl/content.cfm?context marktencontent=markt_persberichtlaag1=189item_id=200806250026Taal=2) and some results are available here: http://www.amc.nl/?pid=5266 Manufacturers name and equipment type included.

Wall warts for UK use

2008-06-26 Thread david.coleman
Am I alone in finding the number of wall warts supplied for the UK market that have the plug part of the design upside down, irritating? The cable entry is then often at the top causing the wall wart to lean out from the socket and any logo and labelling is also up the wrong way. Not just

RE: Wall warts for UK use

2008-06-26 Thread James, Chris
The 13A UK wall socket is always earth pin uppermost as I’m sure you know when fitted to a wall – extension leads laying on the floor and floor boxes are another matter. The intent with the warts with cable coming out the top is that the cable is going to run upwards to a desktop/work

Fw: Wall warts for UK use

2008-06-26 Thread david.coleman
Unfortunately it's not just the cable entry that's often at the top, but the mass of the electronics, which with linear wall warts can be quite substantial, causing the wall wart to pull away from the socket, which would not happen if it was up the correct way (that the manufacturer probably

Re: Wall warts for UK use

2008-06-26 Thread John Woodgate
In message of2b774aca.a990abff-on80257474.002e26fd-80257474.002f1...@selex-comms.co m, dated Thu, 26 Jun 2008, david.cole...@selex-comms.com writes: Am I alone in finding the number of wall warts supplied for the UK market that have the plug part of the design upside down, irritating? The

IEEE Product Compliance Symposium sponsored by the Product Safety Engineering Society

2008-06-26 Thread Daniel Roman
Dear List Member, http://www.ieee-pses.org/ http://www.ieee-pses.org/ http://www.ieee-pses.org/ The IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society will hold its 2008 Symposium in Austin Texas on October 20-22. The program is full with a diverse range of topics and is now 2-1/2 days. Refer to the

[SPAM] RE: EMC in the news: RFID Medical

2008-06-26 Thread Conway, Patrick R (Houston)
Gert- You mention one possible reason for the test results is that the EUT's have immunity deficits. I agree, that is one possibility. here are a few other possibilities: (BTW- not affiliated in any way with medical devices nor with, all comments OOO ) b)

Re: EMC in the news: RFID Medical

2008-06-26 Thread Ken Javor
The major difference between medical and automotive equipment is volume. The engineering to build in immunity is spread across a huge volume in the automotive industry; not so for medical equipment, where volumes are much smaller. Next, hospitals have a controlled rf environment; automobiles may

[SPAM] Re: EMC in the news: RFID Medical

2008-06-26 Thread Ken Javor
Comment (e) is unrealistic. Assuming 61000-4-6 was applied, the amount of power required to directly inject 1, 3 or 10 Volts oc into 150 Ohms is well above the radiated power from an rf id device. Ken Javor Phone: (256) 650-5261 From: Conway, Patrick R

[SPAM] RE: EMC in the news: RFID Medical

2008-06-26 Thread Honkala, Ari (Espoo)
There’s a possibility, depending the cables and interface types in EUT, that the 61000-4-6 test did not apply much current to the device. Ari Honkala SGS Fimko Oy Finland From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Ken Javor Sent: 26.

Re: EMC in the news: RFID Medical

2008-06-26 Thread pat.lawler
Hi John: Unfortunately, the printed report doesn't seem to be available at that address. I was hoping to read a computerized translation of the report, as poor as that might be. If anyone can find the report (or a link to it), I'm interested in it. It certainly seems to have stirred up

[SPAM] RE: EMC in the news: RFID Medical

2008-06-26 Thread Grasso, Charles
Patricks point is well taken with regard to old equipment. However, if the medical equipment is functioning as designed then this throws the entire Medical Device Directive ( and all of its associated immunity testing) into question does it not? After all when we test a unit for immunity the

Re: EMC in the news: RFID Medical

2008-06-26 Thread John Woodgate
In message of7a79aaf8.c7461c7b-on88257474.00581b3e-88257474.0058a...@slpower.com, dated Thu, 26 Jun 2008, pat.law...@slpower.com writes: Unfortunately, the printed report doesn't seem to be available at that address.  I was hoping to read a computerized translation of the report, as poor

RE: IEC61000-3-5 and -3-11 (Flicker)

2008-06-26 Thread Ralph McDiarmid
These two standards appear to be identical, at least in scope with both applying to equipment rated 75A and below. Does anyone know why this is so? Ralph McDiarmid, AScT Compliance Engineering Group Xantrex Technology Inc. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society

RE: IEC61000-3-5 and -3-11 (Flicker)

2008-06-26 Thread Spencer, David H
Ralph, IEC 61000-3-5 is an older technical report giving direction for making flicker measurement on products greater than 16A. Whereas IEC/EN 61000-3-11 is a current standard and is a requirement (for the EU market place) for products rated greater than 16A. Regards, David Spencer EMC

Re: IEC61000-3-5 and -3-11 (Flicker)

2008-06-26 Thread John Woodgate
In message de87437fe365cb458c265ea3d73b6f1d03a24...@xbc-mail1.xantrex.com, dated Thu, 26 Jun 2008, Ralph McDiarmid ralph.mcdiar...@xantrex.com writes: These two standards appear to be identical, at least in scope with both applying to equipment rated 75A and below. Does anyone know why this

Calibration Administration Services

2008-06-26 Thread Powell, Doug
All, I am shopping for a service that provides administration of calibrations. I need this because I cannot spend the resources to administrate this myself. I would like to get opinions from anyone who uses these services so I can establish their track record. I realize that the scope each

Re: EMC in the news: RFID Medical

2008-06-26 Thread E. Robert Bonsen
Published in the Journal of the American Medical Association: http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/short/299/24/2884 $15 to download the article. From the summary, no real info on the test process: *Design and Setting * Without a patient being connected,^ EMI by 2 RFID systems (active 125

RE: EMC in the news: RFID Medical

2008-06-26 Thread Daniel Roman
While slightly off-topic, this discussion got me thinking about the measurement of the voltage on the cable. If done with a RF cable current clamp, do you have to do a conversion of some sort if the cable is assumed to be 150 ohms? For a 50 ohm system, a 3V level measured with a clamp would

Re: EMC in the news: RFID Medical

2008-06-26 Thread Ken Javor
None of the below. 61000-4-3 specified rf source impedance is 150 Ohms, calibrated into 150 Ohms load impedance. The 1, 3, and 10 Volt levels are open-circuit quantities, thus the potential developed in the matched load is one-half the limit. The current flowing on a cable under test will depend

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2008-06-26 Thread Scott Douglas
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