Re: Machinery to China

2010-11-24 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
It all depends on the type of machinery and the intended application. Please share some more information with us. Happy Thanksgiving Peter Merguerian Go Global Compliance Inc. pe...@goglobalcompliance.com (408) 416-3772 H Sent from my iPhone On Nov 24, 2010, at 10:29 AM, Pete Perkins

Re: Shield bonding on STP Cat5 Ethernet cables

2010-11-24 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In message FCA549BE3ECF9D4CB8CB8576837EA4890A7744@ZEUS.cetest.local, dated Wed, 24 Nov 2010, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl writes: Magnetic fields from cabling carrying larges currents will couple through the shield. Well, not if it's grounded at all

Re: Shield bonding on STP Cat5 Ethernet cables

2010-11-24 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In message 4ced7e8b.9020...@emcesd.com, dated Wed, 24 Nov 2010, Doug Smith d...@emcesd.com writes: Sometimes the shield can cause high frequency problems as it is just a thick wire. I documented this in a paper published at the EMC'94 Roma Symposium. One problem can happen when CM shield

RE: SASO

2010-11-24 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Hello all, We have a shipment of products that fall outside of the scope of the SASO program and thus cannot get a C of C for the shipment. Has anyone faced this situation, if so how did you handle it. Thank You, Jay Sotherden Certification Specialist Cooper Crouse-Hinds - Syracuse,

Re: Shield bonding on STP Cat5 Ethernet cables

2010-11-24 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Hi John and the group, Sometimes the shield can cause high frequency problems as it is just a thick wire. I documented this in a paper published at the EMC'94 Roma Symposium. One problem can happen when CM shield currents land on a PC chassis and then get into the internal circuits through seams

RE: Shield bonding on STP Cat5 Ethernet cables

2010-11-24 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
I would not use STP for industrial applications as you point out. STP has no added value to Ethernet signals. The CAT 5 (and 6) have such good symmetry that the shielding is of no value anymore. Note that the shield part principally operates for electrical fields only, such as high voltage power

Re: Shield bonding on STP Cat5 Ethernet cables

2010-11-24 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In message 8F3FCCF474B9484DAE45A95D68B5379E@christopher, dated Wed, 24 Nov 2010, Chris Wells radioactive55...@comcast.net writes: We also use multipoint RS485 serial communication links in our power gear that can go thousands of feet between separate gear line ups. In this application we

In-situ EMC test company in Nashville area?

2010-11-24 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
We need to find an EMC lab to work with on a test plan for in-situ testing in the Nashville TN area. The ideal company would have experience in doing in-situ testing and in creating a plan to meet the Essential Requirements of the EMC Directive rather than taking the harmonized standards route,

Shield bonding on STP Cat5 Ethernet cables

2010-11-24 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
I am looking for some feedback on the proper/practical treatment of Ethernet STP Cat5 cable shields. The interfaces are running 100 Base Tx. The STP cables typically are DC grounded at each end to the RJ45 jack and then often metal shield fingers contact a metal housing that is grounded. From a

Machinery to China

2010-11-24 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
A company is planning to expand manufacturing into China and will supply their own custom designed equipment for their facility. What safety and regulatory requirements apply to this equipment being imported into China? :) br, Pete Peter E Perkins, PE Principal

Re: [PSES] RE Measurements in Compact Chamber

2010-11-24 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In message d250d01e39356a4e9cc3b4b459d6655008f...@ms-cda-01.advanced-input.com, dated Wed, 24 Nov 2010, McInturff, Gary gary.mcintu...@esterline.com writes: Still if somebody with deep pockets wished to take it on that could change but I don't see anyone particularly interested in doing so.

RE: [PSES] RE Measurements in Compact Chamber

2010-11-24 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
I think one of the issues is not 'does an anechoic chamber (large or small) give good results' the issue is what does the regulator use as a reference to their standards and what are 'good results'. It is not very likely that a small anechoic chamber will meet NSA requirements comparable to that

RE: [PSES] RE Measurements in Compact Chamber

2010-11-24 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
The good news about national accreditation for test labs and MRA's with other countries is that we don't have to test multiple times for the world market - the bad news is that you have to convince all countries that sign up to the MRA's to accept the new methodology That involves politics as much