Re: [PSES] Machinery Directive 1.7.1

2014-06-10 Thread Anthony Thomson
-penneth. Tony Sent:Monday, June 09, 2014 at 7:35 PM From:Kunde, Brian brian_ku...@lecotc.com To:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject:[PSES] Machinery Directive 1.7.1 Here we go again. On and off over the last 30 years I have bumped heads over having English Text on warning labels on Worldwide

Re: [PSES] Machinery Directive 1.7.1

2014-06-10 Thread Kunde, Brian
really care what language the text next is in. I wouldn’t be confused in the least. The Other Brian From: Anthony Thomson [mailto:ton...@europe.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 4:09 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Machinery Directive 1.7.1 Hi Brian, Your quotation

Re: [PSES] Machinery Directive 1.7.1

2014-06-10 Thread Kunde, Brian
the translation. Are kids used to learn French and German in schools, now they learn Spanish and Chinese. The Other Brian -Original Message- From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 6:18 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Machinery Directive

Re: [PSES] Machinery Directive 1.7.1

2014-06-10 Thread John Woodgate
In message 64D32EE8B9CBDD44963ACB076A5F6ABB0269B30B@Mailbox-Tech.lecotech.local, dated Tue, 10 Jun 2014, Kunde, Brian brian_ku...@lecotc.com writes: It is silly to think that if I get a marker and black out the English text on the label that only then would it be compliant to the all mighty

Re: [PSES] Machinery Directive 1.7.1

2014-06-10 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
brian_ku...@lecotc.com To: EMC-PSTC EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 8:08:54 AM Subject: Re: [PSES] Machinery Directive 1.7.1 What I expect is that a warning label with pictograms and warning symbols which explains the warning good enough by themselves to not have to also

Re: [PSES] Machinery Directive 1.7.1

2014-06-10 Thread Richard Nute
When I lived in Spain, we bought a new washing machine. It had a multi-language manual with the English buried towards the end. And, it only used pictograms on the machine. The pictograms were not understandable to us, and they were not well-explained in the manual. We had to experiment to

[PSES] Machinery Directive 1.7.1

2014-06-09 Thread Kunde, Brian
Here we go again. On and off over the last 30 years I have bumped heads over having English Text on warning labels on Worldwide marketed products shipped to non-English speaking countries. I was given the impression that Europe was ok with English Text as long as it was explained in the

Re: [PSES] Machinery Directive 1.7.1

2014-06-09 Thread John Woodgate
In message 64D32EE8B9CBDD44963ACB076A5F6ABB0269B066@Mailbox-Tech.lecotech.local, dated Mon, 9 Jun 2014, Kunde, Brian brian_ku...@lecotc.com writes: Here we go again. On and off over the last 30 years I have bumped heads over having English Text on warning labels on Worldwide marketed

Re: [PSES] Machinery Directive 1.7.1

2014-06-09 Thread Nick Williams
Brian, In this instance, the lab is correct. You’ve only partially quoted EHSR 1.7.1; in full it reads: Information and warnings on the machinery Information and warnings on the machinery should preferably be provided in the form of readily understandable symbols or pictograms. Any written or

Re: [PSES] Machinery Directive 1.7.1

2014-06-09 Thread Kunde, Brian
. Thanks for everyone's comments. The Other Brian -Original Message- From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 4:04 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Machinery Directive 1.7.1 In message 64D32EE8B9CBDD44963ACB076A5F6ABB0269B066

Re: [PSES] Machinery Directive 1.7.1

2014-06-09 Thread John Woodgate
In message 64D32EE8B9CBDD44963ACB076A5F6ABB0269B12B@Mailbox-Tech.lecotech.local, dated Mon, 9 Jun 2014, Kunde, Brian brian_ku...@lecotc.com writes: This has been a battle that has been going on for a long time. I wish we could come to some understanding. France is a special case. The