Re: [PSES] Recast of RTTE directive

2013-02-27 Thread Pat Lawler
So, would having a DoC with a unique device ID imply the specific device was tested to the standards listed - 100% production testing? That would be cost prohibitive, not to mention degrading product reliability in the case of line surge immunity testing. Is there something in the recast that

Re: [PSES] Recast of RTTE directive

2013-02-27 Thread Ron Pickard
message From: Pat Lawler plawl...@gmail.com Date: To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Recast of RTTE directive So, would having a DoC with a unique device ID imply the specific device was tested to the standards listed - 100% production testing? That would be cost

Re: [PSES] Recast of RTTE directive

2013-02-26 Thread John Woodgate
In message 512c27c6.4020...@radiusnorth.net, dated Mon, 25 Feb 2013, Scott Douglas sdoug...@radiusnorth.net writes: So who do we complain to about having a unique DofC for each specific product? How do we get our voices heard? Contact your National Standards body, (i.e. ANSI, CSI, DIN,

Re: [PSES] Recast of RTTE directive

2013-02-26 Thread Anthony Thomson
we just do the sensible thing and drop this daft requirement. T - Original Message - From: John Woodgate Sent: 02/26/13 08:41 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Recast of RTTE directive In message 512c27c6.4020...@radiusnorth.net, dated Mon, 25 Feb 2013, Scott Douglas

Re: [PSES] Recast of RTTE directive

2013-02-26 Thread John Cotman
Subject: Re: [PSES] Recast of RTTE directive I'm with Scott on this and I appreciate John's advice about canvassing one's relevant National Standards body. However, I would like to understand who is driving and supporting the rquirement for uniquely serialised DoC's and their motives

Re: [PSES] Recast of RTTE directive

2013-02-26 Thread John Woodgate
In message 20130226101739.148...@gmx.com, dated Tue, 26 Feb 2013, Anthony Thomson ton...@europe.com writes: So who is driving and supporting the requirement for uniquely serialised DoC's and what is their technical and economical justification for doing so. Probably some enthusiastic

Re: [PSES] Recast of RTTE directive

2013-02-26 Thread John Woodgate
In message 2EC8CC67196B4ED1BB7595C6964E7620@LENVOR61iJOHN, dated Tue, 26 Feb 2013, John Cotman john.cot...@conformance.co.uk writes: Surely if this is a real issue, (and I?m not convinced that it is), it would have to be in the text of the directive(s), and is nothing to do with standards?

Re: [PSES] Recast of RTTE directive

2013-02-26 Thread Anthony Thomson
'. Or maybe I've misuderstood the requirement... wouldn't be the first time I got something wrong. T - Original Message - From: John Cotman Sent: 02/26/13 10:27 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Recast of RTTE directive Surely if this is a real issue, (and I’m

Re: [PSES] Recast of RTTE directive

2013-02-26 Thread John Cotman
: [PSES] Recast of RTTE directive In message 2EC8CC67196B4ED1BB7595C6964E7620@LENVOR61iJOHN, dated Tue, 26 Feb 2013, John Cotman john.cot...@conformance.co.uk writes: Surely if this is a real issue, (and I?m not convinced that it is), it would have to be in the text of the directive(s

Re: [PSES] Recast of RTTE directive

2013-02-26 Thread John Woodgate
In message 7B529F5F748344499F9D6BA0A8C663C8@LENVOR61iJOHN, dated Tue, 26 Feb 2013, John Cotman john.cot...@conformance.co.uk writes: It would defy all common sense if it got in. Among other matters, there has to be a regulatory impact assessment of any new legislation. But if people don't

Re: [PSES] Recast of RTTE directive

2013-02-26 Thread Kunde, Brian
hope you are smiling and crying at the same time. The Other Brian -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Scott Douglas Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 10:11 PM To: John Woodgate Cc: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Recast of RTTE

Re: [PSES] Recast of RTTE directive

2013-02-26 Thread Crane, Lauren
-Original Message- From: Scott Douglas [mailto:sdoug...@radiusnorth.net] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 9:11 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Recast of RTTE directive I can tell you that trying to make a unique DofC for each individual unit serial number is absolutely

Re: [PSES] Recast of RTTE directive

2013-02-26 Thread John Woodgate
In message 617eb8c8634c9149aa66c853d7b8ac53040e4...@by2prd0310mb389.namprd03.prod.o utlook.com, dated Tue, 26 Feb 2013, Crane, Lauren lauren.cr...@kla-tencor.com writes: The unique aspect of the problem here is that the unique DoC issue seems embedded in the New Legislative Frame (NLF)

Re: [PSES] Recast of RTTE directive

2013-02-25 Thread Crane, Lauren
...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 9:03 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Recast of RTTE directive In message d6ee39f37624ae40c6f7b6262384d...@mail.gmail.com, dated Fri, 22 Feb 2013, Peter Tarver ptar...@enphaseenergy.com writes: errr...yeah. Got interrupted by work

Re: [PSES] Recast of RTTE directive

2013-02-25 Thread Jim Hulbert
...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Crane, Lauren Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 10:38 AM To: John Woodgate; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] Recast of RTTE directive John, since you ask...(but perhaps you only meant the re-scoping)... The RTTE recast is also be stepping forward

Re: [PSES] Recast of RTTE directive

2013-02-25 Thread John Woodgate
In message 617eb8c8634c9149aa66c853d7b8ac53040e3...@by2prd0310mb389.namprd03.prod.o utlook.com, dated Mon, 25 Feb 2013, Crane, Lauren lauren.cr...@kla-tencor.com writes: John, since you ask...(but perhaps you only meant the re-scoping)... I did mean the re-scoping. The RTTE recast is also

Re: [PSES] Recast of RTTE directive

2013-02-25 Thread Scott Douglas
I can tell you that trying to make a unique DofC for each individual unit serial number is absolutely unworkable. Not to mention a documentation and logistics nightmare. So who do we complain to about having a unique DofC for each specific product? How do we get our voices heard? Scott On

Re: [PSES] Recast of RTTE directive

2013-02-22 Thread Peter Tarver
PM *To:* EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG *Subject:* [PSES] Recast of RTTE directive The EU Commission has published a proposal for the recast of the RTTE Directive, in part intended to bring it in line with the New Legislative Framework. Press release http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-12

Re: [PSES] Recast of RTTE directive

2013-02-22 Thread John Woodgate
In message 62d7192f666b8ce8f331c708b4440...@mail.gmail.com, dated Fri, 22 Feb 2013, Peter Tarver ptar...@enphaseenergy.com writes: I’m looking at the proposal now.  What I gather from the first 8 pages (of 77) is that it removes all equipment not intentional radiators from its scope (with an

Re: [PSES] Recast of RTTE directive

2013-02-22 Thread Peter Tarver
errr...yeah. Got interrupted by work that pays my salary. From: John Woodgate Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 09:43 Fri,22 Feb 2013, Peter Tarver ptar...@enphaseenergy.com writes: I’m looking at the proposal now. What I gather from the first 8 pages (of 77) is that it removes all

Re: [PSES] Recast of RTTE directive

2013-02-22 Thread John Woodgate
In message d6ee39f37624ae40c6f7b6262384d...@mail.gmail.com, dated Fri, 22 Feb 2013, Peter Tarver ptar...@enphaseenergy.com writes: errr...yeah. Got interrupted by work that pays my salary. Thanks. It looks like good news to me; does anyone see a snag? -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. See

Re: [PSES] Recast of RTTE directive

2013-02-22 Thread Bill Owsley
the nerve our employers have - sheesh!! oh... I think mine are on here too!!! From: Peter Tarver ptar...@enphaseenergy.com To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 7:27 PM Subject: RE: [PSES] Recast of RTTE directive errr...yeah.  Got

[PSES] Recast of RTTE directive

2012-10-22 Thread Crane, Lauren
The EU Commission has published a proposal for the recast of the RTTE Directive, in part intended to bring it in line with the New Legislative Framework. Press release http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-12-1109_en.htm Regards, Lauren Crane KLA-Tencor -

Re: [PSES] Recast of RTTE directive

2012-10-22 Thread Elliott Mac-FME001
] Recast of RTTE directive The EU Commission has published a proposal for the recast of the RTTE Directive, in part intended to bring it in line with the New Legislative Framework. Press release http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-12-1109_en.htm Regards, Lauren Crane KLA-Tencor