Re: [PSES] Shrink-wrap on soldered connections

2015-03-12 Thread Nyffenegger, Dave
: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 1:33 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Shrink-wrap on soldered connections Group I'm looking for examples of what would and would not be considered as acceptable positioning or support devices for soldered connections. Can shrink-wrap alone be considered

Re: [PSES] Shrink-wrap on soldered connections

2015-03-11 Thread John Woodgate
In message blupr02mb11605ab82bb0e4da6f4c426c1...@blupr02mb116.namprd02.prod.outlook .com, dated Wed, 11 Mar 2015, Brian Oconnell oconne...@tamuracorp.com writes: Would be very interested in other's experience with crimped connector failures. Manual crimping tool used upside down. -- OOO -

Re: [PSES] Shrink-wrap on soldered connections

2015-03-11 Thread Gary McInturff
, March 11, 2015 12:55 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Shrink-wrap on soldered connections Thought about this and realized that I have never seen crimped connector fail where the connector components have test certificate, and where the crimping tool is subject to recurring

Re: [PSES] Shrink-wrap on soldered connections

2015-03-11 Thread Brian Oconnell
failures. Brian From: ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen [mailto:g.grem...@cetest.nl] Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 12:11 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Shrink-wrap on soldered connections I agree with Gary, but the quality depends on wire type and match between wire

Re: [PSES] Shrink-wrap on soldered connections

2015-03-11 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
qualification as an insulator. ?? Gert Gremmen Ce-test From: Gary McInturff [mailto:gary.mcintu...@esterline.com] Sent: Tuesday 10 March 2015 20:14 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Shrink-wrap on soldered connections I've seen the same, although I generally use

[PSES] Shrink-wrap on soldered connections

2015-03-10 Thread Charlie Blackham
Group I'm looking for examples of what would and would not be considered as acceptable positioning or support devices for soldered connections. Can shrink-wrap alone be considered to provide acceptable holding in place , particularly in the earth wire. I think not, but would be grateful for

Re: [PSES] Shrink-wrap on soldered connections

2015-03-10 Thread John Woodgate
In message 002101d05b63$7b5f08a0$721d19e0$@ieee.org, dated Tue, 10 Mar 2015, Richard Nute ri...@ieee.org writes: On certified products, I have seen shrink-wrap holding soldered connections in place.  I agree. If the wire is terminated in a lug with a reasonable length of 'stem' that the

Re: [PSES] Shrink-wrap on soldered connections

2015-03-10 Thread Gary McInturff
there is a small cost difference in the piece part, but it's a better, in my opinion, method for providing a secure double connection mac From: Richard Nute [mailto:ri...@ieee.org] Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 11:53 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Shrink-wrap on soldered

Re: [PSES] Shrink-wrap on soldered connections

2015-03-10 Thread Nyffenegger, Dave
2:22 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Shrink-wrap on soldered connections Concur. Two methods of securement are required for ground bond material connections. And assume that heat-shrink material is being referenced. Heat shrink is not intended for this use, nor has any

Re: [PSES] Shrink-wrap on soldered connections

2015-03-10 Thread Richard Nute
Hi Charlie: On certified products, I have seen shrink-wrap holding soldered connections in place. The shrink-wrap must attached to both the wire and some other thing that holds the wire in place should the solder connection fail. I have seen the shrink wrap covering both the

Re: [PSES] Shrink-wrap on soldered connections

2015-03-10 Thread Richard Nute
Concur. Two methods of securement are required for ground bond material connections. And mains connections. And any other connection the failure of which would cause breach of the safety standard requirements. While safety standards often specify two methods of securement, they don't specify

Re: [PSES] Shrink-wrap on soldered connections

2015-03-10 Thread Brian Oconnell
and insulator. Brian From: Nyffenegger, Dave [mailto:dave.nyffeneg...@bhemail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 11:05 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Shrink-wrap on soldered connections I'd think not,, especially earth wire connection unless the shrink wrap manufacturer  claims