Re: Near Field Versus Far Field/Troubleshooting

2000-09-23 Thread Lfresearch
Chris, I've been doing a similar test for years, only I use a pin solderd to about 2 feet of wire. This way I don't actually touch the circuit myself. FYI, Derek. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee

RE: Near Field Versus Far Field

2000-09-18 Thread Peter Poulos
Hi Don. Thanks for the example. Hearing about these kinds of experiences makes troubleshooting easier for everyone I think. Thanks to Chris Maxwell for his contribution too. It'd be great to hear more stories from the experience of some other members of the group. I think your approach was

RE: Near Field Versus Far Field

2000-09-18 Thread Peter Poulos
michael.sundst...@nokia.com amateur call: KB5UKT -Original Message- From: EXT Peter Poulos [mailto:pet...@foxboro.com.au] Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 1:38 AM To: marti...@appliedbiosystems.com; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: Near Field Versus Far Field Hi Joe. You asked

Re: Near Field Versus Far Field

2000-09-15 Thread Ravinder Ajmani/San Jose/IBM
Several excellent ideas have been put forward on this phenomenon. Here is my $.02 worth on the subject. I have often been able to reduce the far-field emissions, based on the reduction in near-field emissions. The important thing is to co-relate the far-field and near-field emissions, by

Re: Near Field Versus Far Field

2000-09-15 Thread Peter Poulos
Hi Joe. You asked for an explanation as to why the difference between the near and far field results. I think the replies so far have probably answered that question. I've tried here to give some help with the real problem of solving the excess emissions. From my own experience and

RE: Near Field Versus Far Field

2000-09-15 Thread Michael . Sundstrom
-917-5021 michael.sundst...@nokia.com amateur call: KB5UKT -Original Message- From: EXT Peter Poulos [mailto:pet...@foxboro.com.au] Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 1:38 AM To: marti...@appliedbiosystems.com; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: Near Field Versus Far Field Hi Joe

RE: Near Field Versus Far Field

2000-09-15 Thread UMBDENSTOCK
Hello Joe, Consider the following -- in the far field (3 or 10 meters), a plane wave is monitored. In the near field, using either commercial or lab built near-field probes, either E field or H field emissions will be monitored separately. The E, H components will be isolated. The emission

RE: Near Field Versus Far Field/Troubleshooting

2000-09-15 Thread Maxwell, Chris
: michael.sundst...@nokia.com [SMTP:michael.sundst...@nokia.com] Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 8:59 AM To: pet...@foxboro.com.au; marti...@appliedbiosystems.com; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: Near Field Versus Far Field I might add that the BEST way to do this is to only

RE: Near Field Versus Far Field

2000-09-14 Thread William D'Orazio
Joe, Let me try this one, The near field is composed of a sum of terms 1/r, 1/r^2, etc. and the far field is only composed of the 1/r term. If your 10dB reduction was solely due to a reduction in the higher order terms, 1/r^2 etc, then in the far field no reduction will have taken place. I

RE: Near Field Versus Far Field

2000-09-14 Thread Bronaugh, Edwin
Mr. Martin, have you thought about the fact that the near-field probe does not integrate the whole radiation sphere from your product? On the 10 m site, your antenna sees radiation components from all parts of the EUT, including any cables; while your near-field probe in the lab cannot pick all

RE: Near Field Versus Far Field

2000-09-14 Thread Tudor, Allen
...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: Near Field Versus Far Field Mr. Martin, have you thought about the fact that the near-field probe does not integrate the whole radiation sphere from your product? On the 10 m site, your antenna sees radiation components from all parts of the EUT, including any cables; while