RE: The Trouble with Convention, The Final Chapter

2001-10-31 Thread UMBDENSTOCK
: Ken Javor[SMTP:ken.ja...@emccompliance.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 6:20 PM To: umbdenst...@sensormatic.com; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org; dmck...@corp.auspex.com Subject: Re: The Trouble with Convention, The Final Chapter Following your logic, I was just following

Re: The Trouble with Convention, The Final Chapter

2001-10-30 Thread Ken Javor
warranted. The proper response is to do the job right and so notify the customer so that he imposes the correct requirements even handedly. -- From: umbdenst...@sensormatic.com To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org, dmck...@corp.auspex.com, ken.ja...@emccompliance.com Subject: RE: The Trouble

RE: The Trouble with Convention, The Final Chapter

2001-10-30 Thread UMBDENSTOCK
The point! We have all missed the point! :-) I do not dispute the science. The question was not what is the correct science, rather, what is expected by the FCC (or any other spectrum authority) for successful processing of the submittal. It became apparent that the science did not match

Re: The Trouble with Convention

2001-10-23 Thread Ken Javor
Subject: RE: The Trouble with Convention Date: Tue, Oct 23, 2001, 8:18 AM Chris, I don't believe we are addressing math proofs in this situation. Just as the free space impedance of 377 ohms (51.5 dB) does not apply to the reactive near field but is specified by ETSI for conversion from dBuV

Re: The Trouble with Convention

2001-10-23 Thread Ken Javor
Subject: RE: The Trouble with Convention Date: Tue, Oct 23, 2001, 7:37 AM Don, The mathematical proofs to verify that 20log(D) is a valid method to calculate the change in dBuV for a voltage signal with duty cycle D are mathematically incorrect. There is no sanity check. Multiplying D times V

RE: The Trouble with Convention

2001-10-23 Thread Cortland Richmond
The important thing is, first average the quantities, then convert to dB. Ever seen folks doing video averaging on a log-scaled analyzer display? Sure you have. And it's wrong. How wrong? Take two samples, 100 dBq and 25 dBq. Sum their amplitudes in dB (100dBq + 25dBq= 125dbq) and divide by

Re: The Trouble with Convention

2001-10-23 Thread Doug McKean
For the FCC calculations, I can understand ... E = I*R = 1uA*377 ohms = 377*10^-6 Volts dBuV = 20log(377*10^-6V/1uV) = 51.5 dBuV Assume you measure XuA's and you want to convert to dBuV's. E = I*R = XuA*377ohms = X*377*10^-6 Volts and ... dBuV = 20log[X*377*10^-6 Volts/1uV]