RE: product modifications by the end user

2002-03-21 Thread Colgan, Chris
Thank you for the many replies on this topic, as usual this forum has come up trumps. I managed to compose a memo that persuaded our people that modification kits should only be supplied to suitably qualified distributors. Cheers Chris Colgan Compliance Engineer TAG McLaren Audio Ltd The Summit

Re: product modifications by the end user

2002-03-19 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Allen, John wrote (in <999c839e7e27d41185ec00d0b7473692024cd...@norway.int.rdel.co.u k>) about 'product modifications by the end user', on Tue, 19 Mar 2002: >John Allen >Thales >Bracknell >(This is probably my last post on the forum as I will be leaving Thales >tomorrow

RE: product modifications by the end user

2002-03-19 Thread Greilich, Jeff
ilto:robert_wil...@tirsys.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 12:16 PM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: product modifications by the end user One "solution" that would soon get rid of the problem at its source, would be to have the Marketing Moron do a few of the upgrades himself. Wit

RE: product modifications by the end user

2002-03-19 Thread Gary McInturff
To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: product modifications by the end user One "solution" that would soon get rid of the problem at its source, would be to have the Marketing Moron do a few of the upgrades himself. With any luck, he would find out firsthand the effects of

RE: product modifications by the end user

2002-03-19 Thread Bill Ellingford
There may still be some EMC issues to address but safety compliance is not impossible! Bill Ellingford -Original Message- From: geor...@lexmark.com [mailto:geor...@lexmark.com] Sent: 19 March 2002 14:26 To: Colgan, Chris Cc: 'Emc-Pstc' (E-mail) Subject: Re: product modificat

Re: product modifications by the end user

2002-03-19 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Colgan, Chris wrote (in ) about 'product modifications by the end user', on Tue, 19 Mar 2002: >Just say someone in your marketing department came up with the bright idea >of selling upgrade kits to an unqualified, untrained end user that involved >removing the top cover

RE: product modifications by the end user

2002-03-19 Thread Robert Wilson
One "solution" that would soon get rid of the problem at its source, would be to have the Marketing Moron do a few of the upgrades himself. With any luck, he would find out firsthand the effects of electrical current flow through the human body. :) Bob Wilson TIR Systems Ltd. Vancouver. -Or

RE: product modifications by the end user

2002-03-19 Thread Ron Pickard
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RE: product modifications by the end user

2002-03-19 Thread Allen, John
Chris I would be inclined to look at the General Product Safety Directive http://europa.eu.int/eur-lex/en/lif/dat/1992/en_392L0059.html and the Product Liability Directive http://europa.eu.int/eur-lex/en/lif/dat/1999/en_399L0034.html You would probably also have to look at "case law" which resu

RE: product modifications by the end user

2002-03-19 Thread richwoods
The LVD has an essential requirement for the safety of the user from electrical shock - see 1d, 2a and 2d of Annex 1. This essential requirement is transposed into the user access requirements of EN 60065. Anytime the user instructions instruct the user to open an electrical enclosure, the design

Re: product modifications by the end user

2002-03-19 Thread georgea
Chris, Every set of existing rules has an "intent", to be achieved by following the "letter" of the rules. Personally, I always consider meeting the intent far superior to meeting the letter of rules. Example, the letter of the law says we must stop at stop signs before proceeding. The intent

Re: product modifications by the end user

2002-03-19 Thread Chris Allen
Chris, I'm not sure about EN60065, but in EN60950 the user is always considered to be unqualified personnel and therefore does not know what they are exposing themselves to. If you invite a user to remove a cover from a unit (even if you have told them to disconnect the mains) the whole of the