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Subject: Re: MRAs
Author: Graham Rae Dulmage <grdulm...@sympatico.ca>
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Date: 10/2/00 9:13 PM
Garry and Ron,
The correct term in Canada is the Canadian Electrical Code. The standards are
voluntary but compliance is mandated through
the various territories and provinces regulations and codes ( national and
provinical).
Regards
G. Rae Dulmage
gho...@us.tuv.com wrote:
> Hi Ron,
>
> That is exactly correct. There is a definite distinction in the U.S.
> between residential requirements and commercial application requirements.
> Commercial is mandated through legislation as you stated, whereby products
> destined for residential only applications is voluntary. The Consumer
> Protection Agency in the U.S. can verify this. The liable issue and buyer
> contracts for large retailers ( specifying in their contracts that
> approvals are required) is what usually drives a consumer product
> manufacturer to regulatory testing. In Canada, both consumer and commercial
> applications have mandatory requirements under, if I remember correctly,
> the National Electrical Code.
>
> Best regards,
> Garry Hojan
> Division Manager-Telecom Services
> TUV Telecom Services, Inc.
> 1279 Quarry Lane, Suite A
> Pleasanton, CA 94566
> Tel: 925-249-9123 Ext 127
> Fax: 925-249-9124
> Mobile: 650-465-8383
> email: gho...@us.tuv.com
>
> "Ron Pickard" <rpick...@hypercom.com>@world.std.com on 09/29/2000 08:43:50
> AM
>
> Please respond to "Ron Pickard" <rpick...@hypercom.com>
>
> Sent by: treg-appro...@world.std.com
>
> To: Ben Wrigley <bwrig...@ktl.com>
> cc: t...@world.std.com, emc-p...@ieee.org
> Subject: RE: MRAs
>
> Hi Ben,
>
> In your reply, you stated:
>
> >As far as electrical safety is concerned the MRA offers little advantage
> >since the possibility of local assessment of products was already
> possible.
> >You should also be aware that approvals such as UL markings are not
> covered
> >by the MRA since they are not mandated through legislation. The
> requirement
> >to place UL or equivalent marks on products is voluntary, although you may
> >experience difficulty selling products which are not marked! Products
> >intended for the US market must still be safe though.
>
> "Voluntary, bah.....
>
> In the USA, NRTL safety approvals, thus NRTL safety marks, for equipment
> intended for the commercial
> environment, in fact, are required AND mandated through legislation. This
> requirement is found in
> the US's Code of Federal Regulations (29CFR Part 1910 Subpart S) and is
> regulated by the US Dept. of
> Labor (I'm not so sure about the requirements of products intended for the
> residential environment).
> With that being said, UL or other NRTL safety marks are also required,
> however, it is up to the
> manufacturer to decide which NRTL, therefore which NRTL mark, to use."
>
> Best regards,
>
> Ron Pickard
> rpick...@hypercom.com
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