RE: Value of Using Non-NRTL Engineering Firms? no attachment

2002-11-11 Thread Gary McInturff
Question from Chris - Just looking for a quick statement on the Value of using a Non-NRTL firm for testing and/or certification (Listing). In my opinion If you're just building one or two then the answer might be non-NRTL, depends on cost and time - just get the local

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2002-11-11 Thread Metse
Reposting without attachment. Sorry group I'll get the hang of it. For those who have provided response to date, thanks much I wrote - We are working some responses to OSHA and would like to ask for some industry response from the Product Safety group (EMC welcome to respond too). Just

Re: Value of Using Non-NRTL Engineering Firms?

2002-10-29 Thread Rich Nute
Hi Chris: OSHA rules apply to employers. OSHA electrical rules require employers (1) to use only electrical products that have been certified by an NRTL, or (2) in the case of custom products, to test the product in place. If you sell a non-NRTL-certified custom product to an employer

RE: Value of Using Non-NRTL Engineering Firms?

2002-10-28 Thread Peter L. Tarver
Chris - On the basis of workplace safety, listing by a nonNRTL is largely useless. On the other hand, if the persons providing the listing are a competent engineering firm, using licensed engineers, there may be some credibility to the listing (for instance, the NEC allows waivers of certain

Value of Using Non-NRTL Engineering Firms?

2002-10-25 Thread SOUNDSURFR
Chris asks: In a quick paragraph, would you provide your opinion on the value of a Non-NRTL Listing Certification. Hard to talk about value in such general terms, when the neither the product nor the application is known. However, a few reactions come to mind: 1. UL was a non-NRTL

Re: Value of Using Non-NRTL Engineering Firms?

2002-10-25 Thread Metse
Hello Again Group, There are several documents available from OSHA's site. Attached is another pdf from OSHA dated 1993 to show more history of OSHA requirements/laws... This letter defines the term approved which is used in several 29CRF documents and also used in the NEC. Again, OSHA

Value of Using Non-NRTL Engineering Firms?

2002-10-25 Thread Metse
We are working some responses to OSHA and would like to ask for some industry response from the Product Safety group (EMC welcome to respond too). Just looking for a quick statement on the Value of using a Non-NRTL firm for testing and/or certification (Listing). Statement: Non-NRTL