RE: Color or marking of buttons - safety question

2001-01-19 Thread Price, Ed
-Original Message- From: Rich Nute [mailto:ri...@sdd.hp.com] Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 11:19 AM To: paul_oshaughne...@affymetrix.com Cc: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: Color or marking of buttons - safety question Hi Paul: However, to release the interlock, a PAUSE or

RE: Power Transformers and the applicability of -3-2 and -3-3

2001-01-19 Thread O'Shaughnessy, Paul
I would say that unless isolation from the public power supply is somehow guaranteed as part of your installation procedures, you must assume that your equipment comes under -3-2 and -3-3. Basically, if it's got a plug and pulls less than 16 Amps at European mains voltages, you need to comply.

RE: Looking at leakage current specs

2001-01-19 Thread Ron Pickard
Gary, If this equipment has a chassis bonding connection like you find in telephone line up equipment, would then it fall under the class B pluggable. I can still remove power cords, but have a chassis to frame bonding wire in parallel to that. (Yes, I know most of that stuff is DC but there is

RE: FCC Part 68 Continuing Compliance

2001-01-19 Thread Bandele Adepoju
Jim, The details and logistics of the FCC continuing compliance program and the next step in de-regulation process can be viewed or downloaded at: http://www.conformity-update.com/fcc-part68-010112.doc Regards, Bandele Jetstream Communications, Inc. badep...@jetstream.com -Original

RE: Need a CDN-T2 for 61000-4-6 conducted immunity test

2001-01-19 Thread Lothar Schmidt
The only company I know selling these special CDN is RodheSchwarz http://www.rsd.de http://www.rsd.de Best Regards Lothar Schmidt Technical Manager EMC/Bluetooth, BQB, Competent Body Cetecom Inc. 411 Dixon Landing Road Milpitas, CA 95035 Phone: +1 (408) 586 6214 Fax: +1 (408) 586

RE: Power Transformers-Question Re-stated

2001-01-19 Thread Lothar Schmidt
In Europe the power distribution is done i=on different levels or grids. The industrial environment is normally supplied with a 20 KV or similar high voltage line an has his own transformer for 240/415 V The residential and commercial environment is supplied via 240/415 V grid. Best Regards

Re: Color or marking of buttons - safety question

2001-01-19 Thread Rich Nute
Hi Paul: However, to release the interlock, a PAUSE or STOP button is pressed which allows the instrument to stop in an orderly way and then release the cover. Best as I can tell, a red pushbutton, with PAUSE or STOP legend and the ! in a triangle (to refer the operator back

Re: Need a CDN-T2 for 61000-4-6 conducted immunity test

2001-01-19 Thread SERGIO LUIZ DA ROCHA LOURES SERGIO
Joe, you can found a CDN-T2 and T4 at Rohde Schwarz. You can use these CDNs also to measure noise instead inject noise. Haefely sells these type of CDNs too, but their CDNs are made by Lüthi. Sérgio Rocha Loures Siemens Ltda. - Brazil ICN FL QEL Tel: +55 41 341-5755 Fax: +55 41 341-5058

Color or marking of buttons - safety question

2001-01-19 Thread O'Shaughnessy, Paul
We have an instrument with moving parts protected by an interlocked cover. The moving parts are accessible to the operator once the cover is opened. However, to release the interlock, a PAUSE or STOP button is pressed which allows the instrument to stop in an orderly way and then release the

Power Transformers and the applicability of -3-2 and -3-3

2001-01-19 Thread Michael . Garretson
Chris, Sorry to keep -3-2 in the conversation, but hopefully you'll get the point. I still have questions pertaining to it, so I've couched my answer in this context. I'll take a swing at this with the caveat that I don't pretend to be the world's expert on this subject, but I'm running into

Re: Copper Thieving

2001-01-19 Thread Perry Qu
Hi! Michael: Thank you for your suggestion. It seems that copper fill that you and several other guys mentioned does not applied in my board. For external layers, you can implement the copper ring or, as other people suggested, using copper fill but grounded it. In my case, I have a high-layer

Need a CDN-T2 for 61000-4-6 conducted immunity test

2001-01-19 Thread Tony J. O'Hara
Hi Joe Schaffner makes a wide range of CDN's including a CDN-T2. I do not know if it' s also useable for EN 55024 but it does have a higher frequency performance IE to 230MHz. I would suggest you contact John Parnell at Schaffner 800-367-5566, or e-mail him at jparn...@schaffner.com Tony

RE: Looking at leakage current specs

2001-01-19 Thread Gary McInturff
Thanks Allen, I would agree with the pluggable A and B issue. Because of the concern with the leakage I indeed read this section as I knew there was some sort of exception. In reading it, I'm out of the office and doing this from very recent memory, the information you present is

RE: Copper Thieving

2001-01-19 Thread Roman, Dan
Capacitively. If your floating structure ends up being resonate at a fundamental or one of the harmonics it will become a very effective unintentional radiator. Dan -Original Message- From: David Gelfand [mailto:gelf...@memotec.com] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 2:34 PM To:

Power Transformers-Question Re-stated

2001-01-19 Thread Chris Maxwell
John, thanks for the reply. I think you pointed out a mistake in my original question. I should not have used side when talking about transformers. I know that we don't have products running from the high or medium voltage sides of the transformers. I'll re-state the question using the word

Re: Looking at leakage current specs

2001-01-19 Thread David Gelfand
John, Ron, Thank you very much for clearing this up. I, the safety lab and CSA rep all missed that my equipment was not pluggable Class B. I am now in the dubious position of having to tell them that my equipment does not conform! Best regards, David. - Original Message - From:

RE: Power Transformers

2001-01-19 Thread WOODS
I don't think you need to know anything about MV (medium voltage) and HV (high voltage) supplies. Low Voltage (LV) is less than 1000 VAC. That is where virtually all equipment will be - your equipment and the equipment that is being protected from your product's emissions. If both are sourced by

Re: FCC Part 68 Continuing Compliance

2001-01-19 Thread JRadomski
Jim, Under the latest Part 68 Rules, I believe you no longer submit an application to the FCC for Part 68 registration. As far as I know, the latest FCC Part 68 Rule gives manufacturers the CHOICE to choose a designated TCB or the FCC to have its products approved. John Radomski

Power Transformers

2001-01-19 Thread Chris Maxwell
Guys, Before I even ask this question, I want to ask that we don't get back into the discussion of whether EN 61000-3-2 and EN 61000-3-3 applies or not. What I want to ask about is a specific term. I was reading an article in conformity-update at the following URL:

RE: Looking at leakage current specs

2001-01-19 Thread Ron Pickard
To all, In addition to John's excellent comments, I must add that the equipment must be classed as stationary (Table 17) according to the definitions found in 1.2.3.3 and 1.2.3.1 of IEC60950 or any of its clones. Also, the only description of allowable leakage current exceeding the 3.5 mA

Need a CDN-T2 for 61000-4-6 conducted immunity test

2001-01-19 Thread JPR3
Dear Listmembers: I would like to purchase a CDN (coupling-decoupling network) for performing the conducted RF immunity test called out in EN 55024. The specific CDN that I am interested in is the CDN-T2 for 2-wire unshielded twisted pair, as shown in Figure D.4 of 61000-4-6. Can any of you

Re: FCC Part 68 Continuing Compliance

2001-01-19 Thread Jim Hulbert
Under the latest Part 68 Rules, I believe you no longer submit an application to the FCC for Part 68 registration. This initial registration process is now handled in the private sector by Technical Conformance Bodies, or TCB's, that have been approved for that purpose. The manufacturer can do

RE: Testfacilities GR-1089-Core

2001-01-19 Thread Penny D. Robbins
Tania- That is not true- Telcordia can do all of the tests in house including the airborne contaminants that you speak of and has been doing them for a long time. Correct me if I'm wrong though, but I beleive the original question here was whether there were any labs in Europe or Asia that

RE: Looking at leakage current specs

2001-01-19 Thread Allen, John
Hi folks I (and I believe, a number of other people) disagree with the last sentence of David's message - in so far as it is NOT merely a question of having a longer grounding pin. IEC and EN60950 - and I think also the common UL/CSA standard (but not having seen the latest edition) - allow

EN 55024 particular conditions

2001-01-19 Thread Praveen Rao
Dear Members, For immunity tests in accordance with EN 55024 : 1998, 'Telecommunications terminal equipment' (analogue and digital), have particulat test conditions in Annex A of the standard. It is highlighted in the standard (section 7.2) that the criteria given in Annex takes precedence over

Re: Impedance Shielding Eff.

2001-01-19 Thread Lfresearch
Hi Captain, You will be able to when we finally document what we're up to. There is a potential patent in the way we do the testing. The bad side is not that we can't disclose it yet, but that we're not in a position to generate revenue from it...;- Maybe by the time we meet in CA this

RE: Testfacilities GR-1089-Core

2001-01-19 Thread Peter Merguerian
Hello Chris, Naftali and All, Do not get traped! There are no test labs in Israel who can perform full compliance to GR-1089 Core! Some labs can do partial testing but not full testing. Regards -Original Message- From: Naftali Shani [mailto:nsh...@catena.com] Sent: Wednesday, January