Re: duty cycle closure

2001-10-19 Thread Ken Javor
No. You aren't applying the rule correctly. As I stated earlier: log a*b = log a + log b log b^n = n log b Combining, it is clear that log (a*b^n) = log a + n log b. -- From: umbdenst...@sensormatic.com To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org, dmck...@corp.auspex.com Subject: duty cycle

Re: Light Emission from Professional Photography Flashes

2001-10-19 Thread Rich Nute
Hi Peter: Any limitations/requirements for amount of light emitted from professional photography flashes? Any UL, IEC or European standards which specify limitations? I know how many you like being photographed - but imagine what harm one of these flashes can cause to your

duty cycle closure

2001-10-19 Thread UMBDENSTOCK
Going back to fundamentals -- Given a = duty cycle = average power and define ^2 = squared Then P[ave] = a P[ref] P = V^2/R V[ave]^2/R = aV[ref]^2/R, the Rs cancel leaving V[ave]^2 = aV[ref]^2 10 log(V[ave]^2) = 10 log (aV[ref]^2), which is equivalent to 20 log (V[ave]) = 20 log

Re: Is This Right?

2001-10-19 Thread Doug McKean
More to the proof discussion launched by the duty cycle question, given dB = 10 log (P1/P2) Let a be the duty cycle ratio, with 0a1, so that P1 = aP2. Then dB = 10 log (aP2/P2) = 10 log (a). Eq. (1) If 10 log (P1/P2) = 10 log (V1^2/V2^2) = 10 log (V1/V2)^2 = 20 log (V1/V2),

RE: Light Emission from Professional Photography Flashes

2001-10-19 Thread Roman, Dan
If there aren't standards there probably should be. I remember seeing a NOVA episode in which Dr. Harold Edgerton, inventor of the strobe, demonstrated a strobe similar to that used during WWII to photograph German positions from the air at night. He fired the strobe at a newspaper 3 feet away

RE: high temperature circuit breaker

2001-10-19 Thread Gary McInturff
Neither endorsing or rejecting these breakers I just happen to be doing a little research of my own and have a spec sheet open in front of me on these things. Square D has a Multi-9 series of breakers that shows an operating temperature of -30 to -70 C. and tropical treatment 2

RE: 60601-1-2

2001-10-19 Thread Momcilovic, Nick
For the latest developments on CENELEC (EN) standards you can go directly to their website search and just type in the standard number in the Standard reference field (http://www.cenelec.org/BASIS/celis/free/project/SF). Nick Momcilovic Product Safety Coordinator QTI N64W23110 Main Street

Corrected text Re: What is minimum dBA measured difference above ambient noise for pulsing alarm.

2001-10-19 Thread paul_j_smith
Folks, It was pointed out that my quote from SEMI S2-0200e is incorrect. I would like to restate my question to include the correction. I apologize for any inconvenience my error has caused. My corrected question is as follows. . Can anyone cite a reference document /

Re: high temperature circuitbreaker

2001-10-19 Thread Andrew Carson
Kristiaan In my experience when CBs operate above or close to 40degC, they will potentially operate below the rating trip point, leading to spurious trips. Especially on start up with in rush current. A CB manufacturer should be able to provide you with the devices performance curves, fault

RE: Motor Drive Grounding Scheme

2001-10-19 Thread Stone, Richard A (Richard)
In typical testing of DC units, the two inputs are floating when doing for example: current checks and hipot to chassis ground. Yet, in a CO, the return lead is grounded, so you have a test lab condition ( return floating ) and a real condition, return tied to CO earth ground in service. The

Re: What is minimum dBA measured difference above ambient noise for pulsing alarm.

2001-10-19 Thread Dan Kwok
Hi Paul, Sound pressure level (SPL) is normally given for sustained or peak levels for different environments. The dB(A) unit for SPL is relative to the threshold of hearing. The A in the dB(A) indicates the measurement is taken with an A-weighted filter which shapes the frequency response in a

Light Emission from Professional Photography Flashes

2001-10-19 Thread Peter Merguerian
Dear All, Any limitations/requirements for amount of light emitted from professional photography flashes? Any UL, IEC or European standards which specify limitations? I know how many you like being photographed - but imagine what harm one of these flashes can cause to your eyes! This e-mail

Re: Is This Right?

2001-10-19 Thread Ken Javor
Your eqn (2) is in error. This is how it works. 10 log (aV2^2/V2^2) = 10 log (a) + 10 log (V2/V2)^2 = 10 log (a) + 20 log (V2/V2) = 10 log (a) -- From: umbdenst...@sensormatic.com To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: Is This Right? Date: Fri, Oct 19, 2001, 8:37 AM More to

RE: Is This Right?

2001-10-19 Thread James, Chris
You are missing the fact you have your brackets wrong in: dB = 10 log (aV2^2/V2^2) = 10 log (aV2/V2)^2 = 20 log (a) ? Eq. (2) should be dB = 10 log (a (V2^2/V2^2)) = 10 log a ((V2/V2)^2) = 10 log (a)Eq. (2) -Original Message- From: umbdenst...@sensormatic.com

60601-1-2

2001-10-19 Thread reheller
I heard that the IEC has issued the new 60601-1-2 EMC standard for medical equipment on the 30th of September. Does anyone know when the EN will follow and when its DOW will be? Thanks, Bob Heller 3M Product Safety, 76-1-01 St. Paul, MN 55107-1208 Tel: 651- 778-6336 Fax: 651-778-6252

high temperature circuitbreaker

2001-10-19 Thread Kristiaan . Carpentier
Hello group, Circuit breakers and residual current operated circuitbreakers for house-hold applications are typically cetified at 40 degree Celcius. If these types are built into other products, they do not comply with their temperature rating as specified in the safety certificate. Does

Re: What is minimum dBA measured difference above ambient noise for pulsing alarm.

2001-10-19 Thread paul_j_smith
Folks, Can anyone cite a reference document / standard that determines if there is a minimum dBA sound level variation above an expected ambient environment that is suitable for a pulsing alarm. In my review , I have found that SEMI S2-0200E Environmental, Health, and Safety Guideline for

RE: Is This Right?

2001-10-19 Thread UMBDENSTOCK
More to the proof discussion launched by the duty cycle question, given dB = 10 log (P1/P2) Let a be the duty cycle ratio, with 0a1, so that P1 = aP2. Then dB = 10 log (aP2/P2) = 10 log (a). Eq. (1) If 10 log (P1/P2) = 10 log (V1^2/V2^2) = 10

Passive Laser Devices

2001-10-19 Thread Chris Maxwell
Hi Guys, I've been in a lot of trouble this week and had a lot of questions. But, my way of thinking is...if you're not in a little trouble, you're not in the game. Anyway...we want to purchase fiber optic switches for use with our OTDR (Optical Time Domain Reflectometer) modules. The switches

RE: Motor Drive Grounding Scheme

2001-10-19 Thread Peter Merguerian
Mark, If you think your product is safe, you must be able to prove it. For starters, I suggest you read UL60950. Somewhere in the Appendix, it allows one side of the input supply to telecommunication equipment intended for central office applications to be earthed. However, special markings andf

RE: Motor Drive Grounding Scheme

2001-10-19 Thread Scott Lacey
Mark. As described, the situation to me sounds no worse than any other earthed connection. The only hazard would seem to be as a return for hazardous voltages - exactly the same situation as the sheet metal enclosure that surrounds it. In my experience sometimes the approver's representative