Re: Scope of the LVD

2003-06-28 Thread richhug...@aol.com
Ron, I found a more up to date URL for what's happening to the LVD which seems to be open to all (it didn't ask me for a password). It can be found by following: http://europa.eu.int/comm/enterprise/electr_equipment/lv/direct/review.htm By looking at LVD.3 you will be able to see that not only

flame was (was RE: Dielectric withstand voltage for power supplies)

2003-06-28 Thread Peter L. Tarver
My response to Mr. Horvat's message was indeed blunt, but _was_not_ personal. If my response lacked the decorum some delicate souls crave, then certainly those self-same creatures can take me to task off the list (some already have), rather than making personal comments on the list. I have

Scope of the LVD

2003-06-28 Thread Ronald R. Wellman
Hello all, The following document may be dated, but it provides incite into the applicability of the LVD: http://www.wbc-europe.com/prodserv/market_segment/low_voltaged73_23.pdf Best regards, Ron Wellman This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc

Re: The transformer screen/shield conundrum

2003-06-28 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Rich Nute ri...@sdd.hp.com wrote (in 200306271743.kaa29...@epgc264.sdd.hp.com) about 'The transformer screen/shield conundrum' on Fri, 27 Jun 2003: The screen/shield must be capable of carrying the full fault current and is often tested using the 25-amp test. C.2 of

Re: The transformer screen/shield conundrum

2003-06-28 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Rich Nute ri...@sdd.hp.com wrote (in 200306271956.maa00...@epgc264.sdd.hp.com) about 'The transformer screen/shield conundrum' on Fri, 27 Jun 2003: I would agree that this current, at a very small contact area, is the driver for the hole in the screen/shield. OK, the

Re: CE without LVD?

2003-06-28 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that drcuthb...@micron.com wrote (in E6F64B42266D6 54b80a0f7f4b98212a50ec...@ntxboimbx03.micron.com) about 'CE without LVD?' on Fri, 27 Jun 2003: Yes I once had a device that was SELV and this caused some confusion. We designed it to meet EN61010 as it was a piece of lab

Re: Czech medical grounding?

2003-06-28 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that brent.dew...@us.datex-ohmeda.com wrote (in OF8C92B488.05E195FF-ON87256D52.006A403E-87256D52.006AC7C7@us.datex- ohmeda.com) about 'Czech medical grounding?' on Fri, 27 Jun 2003: I got some weird feedback from one of our sales people in the Czech republic. One of the

EMC Prototypes and Pre-compliance Lab

2003-06-28 Thread tkrze...@genius.org.br
Hi all, To develop a Pre-compliance lab at our facillities, I need to prepare a document in order to convice the manadgement staff to buy some equipments (basically to perform radiated and conducted emission test to start...) I would like to find some documents (PDF, links...) talking about all

re: CE without LVD?

2003-06-28 Thread richhug...@aol.com
Nick, Agreed it is not yet a done deal and the UK does have one or two other Member States on its side. However, unless significantly more Member States (and certain parts of industry I may add) come over to the UK way of looking at things, then it seems highly likely that the output document

Re: The transformer screen/shield conundrum

2003-06-28 Thread Rich Nute
Hi Richard: You mention a few times the 25 Amp test. The designs I have seen that try and use this approach (and I don't ever recall seeing a design I was happy with) were all switch mode power supplies where there was an input fuse of about 2A, meaning that the test would be

Czech medical grounding?

2003-06-28 Thread brent.dew...@us.datex-ohmeda.com
I got some weird feedback from one of our sales people in the Czech republic. One of the local folks said they were concerned that a metal cased piece of medical electrical equipment didn't have a separate ground for when it was used on internal batteries. I'm an EMC guy so I was wondering if

re: The transformer screen/shield conundrum

2003-06-28 Thread richhug...@aol.com
Rich, Thanks for the Email in which you mention many of the points already discussed in IEC TC74. So what are we going to do with the new hazard based standard? Are we going to permit constructions that have been in IEC 60065 and IEC 60950 for years or are we going to introduce a test that is

RE: CE without LVD?

2003-06-28 Thread Nick Williams
The removal of the lower voltage limits from the definition of the LVD scope is not yet a 'done deal'. In particular, the official UK position is that the costs to industry which would result from this change would outweigh the benefits and so our current position (as of 30 May 2003) is that

Re: CE without LVD?

2003-06-28 Thread Rich Nute
Hi David: In regards to your suggestions below, would it not be wise to take into consideration the future plans of the LVD? The original question was specific to the LVD. My response was specific to the LVD. You raise a new question with regard to a future EU directive, the

RE: GSM in China

2003-06-28 Thread Philip Kim
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The transformer screen/shield conundrum

2003-06-28 Thread Rich Nute
Hi John and Richard: The transformer screen/shield between primary and secondary windings is intended to carry the fault current in the event of a failure of basic insulation between the primary and the screen/shield. The screen/shield must be capable of carrying the full fault current and