Re: Equipment Calibration

2003-11-07 Thread Camille Good
Ed, I would agree with you and with the other people who have responded to your letter - I don't see any issues with not calibrating supplies and generators as long as you are using a calibrated meter/scope/measuring device/whatever to monitor the uncalibrated instrument. I currently work for

Re: Equipment Calibration

2003-11-07 Thread GARY MCINTURFF
Intereseting, I think the ISO and in particular the lab guides indicate simply that if equipment doesn't need calibration it is marked as such. The other stuff obviously must have a cal sticker on it. There are all kinds of lab supplies lying around just to power products during test etc that

RE: opinions, please

2003-11-07 Thread POWELL, DOUG
Ken Dave, If you recall, back when CE marking first became mandatory for EMC and then for the LVD, there was a lot of confusion as to what products should be marked. there were a wide range of inappropriately marked products on the market. I even saw a simple terminal block CE marked for EMC

RE: opinions, please -Is it a component or an apparatus?

2003-11-07 Thread Georgerian, Richard
Greetings All, There is a document called: GUIDELINES ON THE APPLICATION OF COUNCIL DIRECTIVE 89/336/EEC OF 3 MAY 1989 ON THE APPROXIMATION OF THE LAWS OF THE MEMBER STATES RELATING TO ELECTROMAGNETIC COMPATIBILITY (DIRECTIVE 89/336/EEC AMENDED BY DIRECTIVES 91/263/EEC, 92/31/EEC, 93/68/EEC,

Re: opinions, please

2003-11-07 Thread Dave Wilson
Hi Dave, I recall seeing a definition of component some years ago in reference to the EMC Directive, along the lines of being available for sale individually AND having an intrinsic function for the end user, in which case this would be considered a component. Best regards, Dave Wilson

Equipment Calibration

2003-11-07 Thread Price, Ed
In some ways, I have the luxury of having a Metrology Department that maintains the periodic calibration on all of my test equipment. OTOH, as a customer of this Metrology Department's product, I would like to have some control over my overhead costs. And my latest bright idea has me getting

Re: opinions, please

2003-11-07 Thread Ken Javor
I agree with Mr. Powell's conclusion, but I don't follow his logic. I have a USB solid state hard drive that has a CE mark. It is memory with a standard interface. It is totally useless by itself, it derives power from its host. The rationale must lie somewhere else. From: POWELL, DOUG

Re: opinions, please

2003-11-07 Thread john.radom...@modicon.com
Dave, If this type of component is placed on the market for distribution and/or use as a single commercial unit and is commonly available to the general public, the CE mark is applicable. John Radomski Schneider Electric

RE: opinions, please

2003-11-07 Thread POWELL, DOUG
Dave, I would call this a component. The key here is to decide if it has intrinsic function (i.e. does it have a useful propose when used alone?). If not, then it is a component. Regards, -doug Douglas E. Powell Corporate Compliance Dept. Advanced Energy Industries, Inc. Fort Collins,

RE: opinions, please

2003-11-07 Thread Frazee, Douglas (Douglas)
Interesting question..here's my opinion. I assume you are concerned only with the EMC Directive. The EMCD guidelines document http://europa.eu.int/comm/ente prise/electr_equipment/emc/guides/index.htm has detailed information on application of the EMCD to components. Memory modules

Re: opinions, please

2003-11-07 Thread Fred Townsend
drcuthb...@micron.com wrote: I have a question: Is a Memory Module (DIMM) considered a component or an apparatus? As an engineer a DIMM is definitely a component. My mother, the computer user, would call it an apparatus. So the answer depends on how your ox is gourd. Fred Townsend I'm

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RE: opinions, please

2003-11-07 Thread Joshua Wiseman
Dave, I would classify them as a component. I also looked at a few lying around the lab here and none of them have a CE mark. Josh From: John Lach [mailto:john.l...@carlingtech.com] Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 10:32 AM To: drcuthbert; emc-pstc Subject: RE: opinions, please

RE: opinions, please

2003-11-07 Thread John Lach
RE: opinions, please 11/7/03 IMO it is component as it cannot work as a standalone device. I'll have to check some of my memory modules when I get home tonite. I have a bunch laying around from various builds. John drcuthbert wrote: I have a

Re: opinions, please

2003-11-07 Thread GARY MCINTURFF
As long as your asking for opinions. I don't have the definitions in front of me for fine slicing but its a gob of silicon - just like the lowly and gate, it doesn't alter or process anything it just remembers things and changes its mind only when instructed to. This might be more interesting

opinions, please

2003-11-07 Thread drcuthb...@micron.com
I have a question: Is a Memory Module (DIMM) considered a component or an apparatus? I'm trying to decide whether the CE MARK is applicable to this type of product. Dave Cuthbert Micron Technology This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc

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RE: EN 61000-3-2:2000

2003-11-07 Thread Jon Francis
Are there any official clarifications available concerning the repeatability test? Regards, Jon Francis www.voltech.com From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: 14 September, 2002 8:09 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: EN 61000-3-2:2000 I read in