Re: [PSES] New immunity testing by the FAA in the future?

2012-03-26 Thread Brian Oconnell
There ARE problems with some devices, but the ipad may not be a problem. USMC aviators have been using ipads in helicopters for almost two years (that I know). In same squadrons' aircraft, there have been reports of interference from other external-use cockpit devices. Marine combat aviation is a

Re: [PSES] New immunity testing by the FAA in the future?

2012-03-26 Thread Chris Anderson (cmanderson)
All, I happened to have my iPad at work today and ran a scan to 1GHz with a video playing (didn't bring my charger though). There's a minimum of 20dB margin. However, the processor runs at 1GHz so I think data above 1GHz would be more interesting, but my chamber is tied up at the moment.

Re: [PSES] New immunity testing by the FAA in the future?

2012-03-26 Thread Bill Owsley
An interesting situation I ran into;  a 10's of kilohertz system with lots of harmonics that faded fast, got into a 915 MHz radio which then amplified a wide range of the kHz harmonics to levels notably above the FCC limits.   Broadcasting on all frequencies for your listening enjoyment!

Re: [PSES] New immunity testing by the FAA in the future?

2012-03-26 Thread Brian Oconnell
Are you saying that the problem, for this incident, is with the immunity part of the standard? -Original Message- From: Bill Owsley [mailto:wdows...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 2:20 PM To: oconne...@tamuracorp.com; emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: [PSES] New immunity testing by

Re: [PSES] New immunity testing by the FAA in the future?

2012-03-26 Thread wdowsley
Yes and no. Both devices continued to function correctly. And both passed emissions. But when near each other, the immune nature one amplified the emissions of the other. A bit of a surprise for the hf radio guys, they said something about way out of band... I figure the kHz is modulating the

Re: [PSES] New immunity testing by the FAA in the future?

2012-03-26 Thread Ed Price
A couple of years use, of multiple units of a similar model, in multiple aircraft, by multiple users, in actual operating conditions, makes for a strong argument of compatibility. Not conclusive, and it doesn't establish any safety margins, but still a strong argument. Apple owes somebody a

Re: [PSES] New immunity testing by the FAA in the future?

2012-03-26 Thread Brian Oconnell
Jar aviators are a sub-species of Naval Aviation - and once off FOB or off the ship are left to their own devices where the NATOPS is 'optional'. Many marine aviators have technical degrees, so it is not uncommon for decent ideas to emanate from the field. It was a jarhead who used his personal