Indeed, when they 47 CFR, provide the schedule for penalties and payments, and
collect on these. it is law.
But does 29 CFR provide the same for anybody outside of 1910?
It seems a manufacture falls into the CSPA? where failure to report yourself of
getting caught costs a lot... but it is after
Commercial, safety of workers, under labor laws.
This gets a business a whole lot of regulations for labor safety!
Do we only market our products to business? (I do at this time.)
Is there a specific law or regulation or anything else that says all and any
products marketed to anyone in the USA
In message
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qSKmE4BAA==@blueyonder.co.uk, dated Sat, 18 Aug 2012, John Allen
john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk writes:
NRTLs inspect from 2 to 4 times a year, often on an unannounced basis,
and that does keep manufacturers
John
Whilst I accept the validity of some of the argument below, I have to say
that whilst - particularly for the smaller manufacturers - the concept of
actively looking for issues with existing products and then correcting them,
it can often be more a matter (and particularly in the current
In my view the European system is much more flexible for manufacturers and
free from bureaucracy in its most basic form. I also find the NRTLs
reasonably accessible.
The most inaccessible is the IECEE CB scheme which does not allow testing at
independent labs under any of the frameworks. The
Just ensure the updated mandatory Essential Requirements. They are:-
CE Marking
LVD
EMC
ErP
RoHS Recast
WEEE Recast
Regards,
Scott
On 17/8/12 11:31 PM, John Cotman john.cot...@conformance.co.uk wrote:
The CE marking process includes mandatory Essential Requirements, (written
into law),
In message 037701cd7d34$3926d4f0$ab747ed0$@mcauley, dated Sat, 18 Aug
2012, John McAuley john.mcau...@cei.ie writes:
BTW, has a new word, ?Provoqium?, been invented? I can?t find it in any
dictionary. Comes up as a variation of provoke.
The spelling is 'unorfadox'! Provoquium would be
29CFR1910 applies only to the EMPLOYER and there is no requirement for OSHA
purposes for a manufacturer to have their product certified by an NRTL before
marketing it or selling it. The employee using the product however has the
burden of demonstrating that the product meets the definition of
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qSKmE4BAA==@blueyonder.co.uk, dated Sat, 18 Aug 2012, John Allen
Hello John et al,
The English language while blasted by many as difficult, is a marvel in
itself. I did not need to look up the invented word Provoquim or
Provoquium in any dictionary. It's meaning was obvious at first glance.
Very clever of you, John Pearson!
What do you think of my
In message 20120818095356.f4...@shelley.shelltown.net, dated Sat, 18
Aug 2012, Arthur Michael amich...@safetylink.com writes:
The Law of Economics is loud and clear; it mandates electical product
safety compliance for the buyer's offerings.
I think the question is 'Which is the best way to
In message 502fb647.26423.642b...@ptarver.ieee.org, dated Sat, 18 Aug
2012, Peter Tarver ptar...@ieee.org writes:
100% to 400% more often. How often would give you confidence?
Actually it's 100% to 300%, but never mind. It's not about confidence,
it's whether another approach is better.
Nothing I say necessarily reflects the policy of my employer.
I shall endeavor to be more precise, or go home and bother other people. The
CFR is Administrative Law, and is has been reinforced as such by several
SCOTUS rulings, where the 'informed discretion' of agencies is the basis to
make
Disclaimer: I'm not arguing for one system or another. I'm only trying to
provide a bit more background for the differences in the two systems based on
personal experience. I've worked with both systems for a while, and I've had my
share of problems with NRTLs. I also recognize that my opinions
In message 1284c8ec9fbe4d24b6397106a3caa...@tamuracorp.com, dated Sat,
18 Aug 2012, Brian Oconnell oconne...@tamuracorp.com writes:
Note that the U.S. OSHA has (figuratively) declared war on the
self-declaration process, and has specifically published stuff saying
that the 'CE' does not
In message
e9c52f9e77c43c49a56a22691b3680be1300e...@tk5ex14mbxc301.redmond.corp.mic
rosoft.com, dated Sat, 18 Aug 2012, Ted Eckert
ted.eck...@microsoft.com writes:
First, none of them will stand behind a customer in court. If you have
an NRTL Listed system, and it fails, it is fully your
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